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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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dirt track demon

Did the rusty water smell like something dead :reek:?  The critter that ate the acorns may still be in there, or parts of it.
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The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

goodolboydws

And all this time I thought that people talking about their cars as being squirrely was just a figure of speech....

robw

I have all autometer phamtom electric gauges. I think I found the problem being the anti-freeze was the color of rust and the radiator was leaking, also probaly didn't help there was acorns in the radiator. thanks guys

goodolboydws

There's always the chance that your temperature gauge is inaccurate, and the engine really isn't overheating.  If you have a stock electrical gauge, the sensor/sender could be malfunctioning, this isn't unheard of.
It would be smart to double check the temperature readings with a different temperature sender after doing the few routine, inexpensive and obvious things already mentioned, if they do not help. 

robw

sorry about the late reply I havent been near a computer this week. I am going to try to work on it today. it has a new 190 degree theromast and a new water pump(did that along with the timing belt)the oil pressure is at 60 lbs at start up and once fully warm it stays at about 40lbs in gear.i ll try to clean the radiator abd timing. thank s alot

goodolboydws

I'm figuring that you've pulled the NEW thermostat and thoroughly water bath tested it by now, no? Even if it opens and closes properly, it could be a mismarked or miscalibrated TEMPERATURE RANGE one that is opening TOO LATE for your engines' heat range, so you need a reasonably accurate thermometer (like a candy thermometer) and a pan of water to immerse it in while slowly heating it on a stove.

If the thermostat is actually the problem, removing it entirely and running the engine without one in place should make the engine take a VERY long time to warm up and it should never get as hot as it is now getting-as long as the other parts of the engine and cooling system are operating properly.

Another couple of thoughts following up on others' thoughts concerning possible radiator related problems, other than clogs or a built up interior coating that would be preventing heat transfer.

How does the EXTERIOR of your radiator look?
I had one instance of an overheating engine, where a large amount of the radiators' heat disappating fins had turned to tin foil, and they would fall off at the slightest touch. There were several, inches long spaces where the fins were missing entirely when I first saw the car. They used to be able to re-fin and/or re-core a radiator, but I don't know if anyone does that any more, or if it would even be advisable. It always depended on how hard it was to get a new one and what it would cost.   

Next, have you checked the impeller of the water pump (the fan blade looking part INSIDE of the housing, that is what moves the water)? Sometimes this part can actually erode away so severely, and get physically much smaller in diameter and in width so that there is a very large amount of the water moving capacity lost as the pumps' fins agitate the coolant, but are no longer are close enough to the edges of the water pumps' casting cavity to make a reasonably efficient seal.

Next, are you really certain that you don't have ANY air still in the cooling system? If you haven't done much coolant work, it's fairly easy to leave some air trapped in there.

If you haven't been able to bleed ALL the air out, the engine will have pockets where air instead of coolant is in direct contact with a surface that can be several hundred degrees hotter than it would if the coolant was covering it. This can cause super heated steam to form in that particular coolant passage in that vicinity, which will then raise the temperature of the entire cooling system, and if severe enough, the resultant pressure increase can be very rapid and it can lead to blowing either a coolant hose or a radiator fitting completely off.

BTW, are you CERTAIN that your temperature sender is operating properly?

And what does your oil pressure do as this slowly over heat range scenario is happening? The reason i ask this is because if there is a lot of engine bearing wear, it's possible that the oil pump may not be able to keep the system pressurized properly once the oil warms up and thins out, and in that case the engine would REALLY be tending towards building up heat, if the lack of effective lubrication was allowing metal to metal contact ANYWHERE on a large bearing surface. (I'm thinking of mains, rod, and cam bearings here mainly)

madmax96101

he said that he replaced the thermostat. that would zoop if he got a new one that didn't work.

imhoppy

Have you checked to see if if your thermostat is working ?Seems to me the easiest way to tell is to take off the radiator cap "NOT WHILE ITS HOT" Let the car run for about 10 minutes and peer down the filler on top.If the water is flowing at a pretty good pace then at least you have eliminated the thermo and blockage in the  pump.There is always the chance that the thermostat is bad.Im sure that is rare but it happened to me on my a old Z car.Drove me nuts ???.Trying to figure out that one.

madmax96101

did any of this help or have you not had time to work on it?

dirt track demon

Is it forcing any coolant out of the overflow when it gets hot??  Could be a faulty temp sensor or gauge. Check with a thermometer (take cap off carefully and put thermometer in coolant).
   If you check your timing with a light and it is ok, my guess would be buildup inside the radiator.  You can clean out a radiator without using harsh acid cleaners, by getting pure distilled water and running it in your rad without coolant.  Run it for awhile and keep checking it, when it looks really dirty(shouldn't take but a couple hot and cool down cycles to reach the really dirty part) drain it and refill with distilled water, keep repeating this cycle until you have a clean rad, then refill with the proper mix of coolant and distilled water. 

  Sounds like a lot of work, but as old as the rad is in your car, an acid cleaner may make your rad look like a garden sprinkler.(been there done that, kicked the rad clean out of the car) Some have good luck with the acid based cleaners, I haven't in any of the older rads(20+ yrs old) i have tried it in.
  Good luck.
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Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

goodolboydws

As you clearly said that you do NOT now use a timing light to set the initial idle timing (which for many cars of that era was set with the engine idling and without vacuum advance connected, but plugged to eliminate a vacuum leak), checking for an error there would be the most logical thing to check first.

It doesn't take many degrees of initial timing error to make an engine run hotter than normal, and it would tend to be much more noticible at very low and idle speeds especially due to the cooling airflow being less under those conditions. At cruising speed the greater airflow probably masks the problem.

madmax96101

well i checked my haynes manual for troublshooting and this is what it said. i didn't bother putting the ones you already eliminated. here is the list:

it says check for a pinched or restricted flow in the hoses.

fanbelt slipping ( it said you would hear a shreiking noise on rapid accelerating engines).

ignition timing advance and retard incorectly set ( this one said accompanied by a loss of power, and perhaps misfiring).

Carburetor incorectly adjusted ( mixture too weak).

Exauhst system partially blocked.

Engine not yet run in.

Blown head gasket ( this said this would cause coolant/steam to be forced down the radiator overflow pipe under pressure)

Radiator core blocked or radiator grille restricted.

Insufficient coolant in cooling system (im sure you refilled it because you replaced the thermostat. right?)

Oil level too low in oil pan.

The first place that i would check would be the oil level. then the hoses and make sure one didn't collapse. then i would check the grille and then the exhaust. since they would be the easiest to get too. actually first i would check the coolant level and see if it is staying when you do this.


robw

I got a 1980 pinto 2.3 auto, and it seems to run hot but i'm not sure why.It doesn't get hot real quick but if it idles for maybe 10-15 minutes it will stay at 190 for a while before slowly creeping up to 220 degrees it also does this while driving down the road. I have put a new water pump,thermostat, and a flex-fan on it but still runs hot. All I can think of is maybe the timing is off, never timed it with a gun only by ear. thanks in advance