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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

2nd Annual NATIONAL PINTO MEET, 2006 Carlisle Pa

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dirt track demon

I had to come home for the races tonight so I thought i would post some pics for those who couldnt make it.
Favorite place to race:on the xbox

Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

phils toys

not to sound mean but i hope the bad luck is ony with scott, as we are heading out in a few minutes for our all night drive. see every one in the morning and  if i can find internet acess there will be lots of pictures.
phils toys :fastcar:
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

dirt track demon

Sorry you're having truck problems, I hope everything works out.  While ive just about got my bags packed and i'll be running out the door in a few and heading to carlisle.  I think the theme music for this trip will be  " Magic Carpet Ride".  Looking forward to meeting y'all.  See ya in the morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:fastcar:
Favorite place to race:on the xbox

Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

Scott Hamilton

We're stuck in a hotel in Tenn. The part will arrive tomorrow around 10am and they will install and have us back on the road about 12 to 2pm. we then have close to 14 hour drive (the truck only cruses about 50mph with the Pinto in tow)...

...............................    :(

If anyone is passin by Tenn, I have the PCCA BANNER from Pinto Works, PCCA Buttons, PCCA Shirts, PCCA NoteBooks, Fresh Cherry's Cars, PCCA Window Stickers, & other stuff for the group..

This could turn into to a real problem,
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The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

pintoman

I talk to Dave[original74]He was passing through Columbus,Ohio.Every thing going fine,and is heading for Pittsburg.
05 Pigon Forge Meet, 06 Carlile Meet Coordinator 06-07 Carlile Regional, Brief Case Award (ask)

pintoman

I will leave in the morning with a bunch of other cars.Should be in Carlisle about 3 pm.
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r4pinto

Well, I never found out what the bad vibe was at the back of my car, but it goes away around 70. I test drove the car on a 40 mile trip today & all was well, so I think all will be ok. I did have to change the radio & fix the window as both were giving me fits. The window fell in the door when I was rolling it down & the radio died. Damm crapped out 8 track. I put my cassette player back in & it works ok, so all is good. I just gotta get the front wheel covers on & the door put back together. Gonna be an early day before I leave tomorrow morning.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

turbopinto72

Scott, sorry to hear about the truck trouble. Hope you are back on the road....... :fastcar:
Brad F
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1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Scott Hamilton

Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

Scott Hamilton

well we made it columbia tenn after a very roughf start and we blew a lower radiator/special hose on the 5.8 F250 Truck. we are waiting on the tire company to focus on the problem...

Had another issue with the truck this morning that caused a 5 hour delay..

posting this from my treo, hard to type...

don't know if we will be back on the road tonight or not..

kids & wife are troopers at this point, will see later
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

turbopinto72

Make sure you guys take a " Ton" of pictures..........
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Pintony

Hello Joe,
I'm 99% sure you can show up on saturday and they will take your money... ;D


Talked with Original 74 Dave tonight he is in route to Carlisle and staying 20 minuets from me in a hotel.
Can't wait to see all the Pintos lined up at the show.


From Pintony

grgic

I'm still not sure if I will make it to carlisle, I wont know until Fri. night if i can go(I'm 3 hrs away)
can I show up at the gate sat morning and register there and bring my pinto in?
also will there be an ugliest pinto contest(its the only thing i have a shot at winning)
Mine not shiny
Joe

pintoman

Hey Paul.We hope to be there between 3 and 4 pm.Will be staying at the Motel 6.See you on Thursday,Harley.
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kooter07

Pintoman, what time are you hitting Carlisle PA. thursday nite? We might be cruising around town , thought we might stop by.
                        Paul in Pa.

Boss2300

Pintony
There won't be to much to compare. Mines just Sony right out of the box & the Sony woofer I got on ebay used. It sounds ok for an old guy like me. LOL
I wanna show off my 120 MPH Ford speedometer. I'll wait until Carlisle to tell the details on it. Top secret you know. If I ever find time to update my web page
I'll put it on there. Can't wait to meet all the Pinto nuts at Carlisle.
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pintoman

Hey Tony,nice job on the box.I was in that line of work for 21 years.See you in 5 days.Here is my cell number 614-203-9451.I will be leaving Columbus on Thursday morning,Harley.
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Pintony

Hey Boss 2300,


KOOL!!!! We will have to compare notes as I just installed some NEW stereo stuff too.
I stalled all NEW Memphis audio speakers and made a NEW box for my amps and Fosgate subs.


From Pintony

Boss2300

I'am as ready as I'am going to be. I have new 2005 Mustang V6 wheels on my wagon. I've added a CD player & a subwoofer. I'll see all of you friday morning. Everbody have a safe trip.
'I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisable, with liberty and justice for all.'

78pinto

wish i could have gone guys, maybe next year. Need to find a tow vehicle. Have a great time!
** Jeff (78Pinto) is Missing from us but will always be a part of our community- We miss you Jeff **

pintoman

Hey consfire,a bunch of us will be next door at the motel 6.
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CONSFIRE

Good afternoon guys,
                      Every thing is locked down for the trip. I'll be leaving for Carlisle Thursday (6/1) in the morning with my buddy(Mark). We'll be traveling with the Mac's Antique Auto caravan. We'll be leaving from Lockport N.Y., (Buffalo area)it's about a 6-8 hour drive. We'll be staying at te Best Western Carlisle for the weekend. I can give you my cell number when we all meet up,looking forward to meeting all of you!

77turbopinto

Anyone in, or coming through CT drop me a pm, and we can see about going in a pack. We have 4 so far, leaving at 0-dark-30 Friday morning. :sleep:

Bill
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Pintony

Hello Group,
I will be leaving thursday morning.
I have my FORD E350 V10 gased and ready to go.
I will be bringing my Purple Pinto on a trailer. NOT READY TO GO!!! ;D ;D ;D
Staying at the Carlisle Inn.
Cell number 1-618-339-5047.
I will bring parts for those who have need.
The front fenders from my 78 C-wagon are available and the doors are not too bad.
I have the complete dashboard that come with 78 title.
I have a used sports wheel too.
No guage pods... But I do have the guages.
From Pintony

phils toys

Quote from: DreamBean on May 25, 2006, 06:52:01 PM
pintoman, That sounds like a winner.
Phils toys, You joining us? I can't wait to see your wagon.
I can't wait to see all the rides. Mine is still not painted but I am gonna be there.

sounds like a good idea, we will see how the trip goes.
i plan on taking lap top( has dvd player for kids to watch on trip) and digital camera  just need to find place to acess internet.to also upload pics.
just took it to detail shop to be as shiny as posable,  we will see what a long drive does for it.
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2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

Scott Hamilton

OK Here we go...

We, my wife, kids & I, will be leaving Huntsville Alabama on Wednesday Morning 10am ish traveling north on 65 to 40E to Knoxville then 81N to marion South Carolina where we will find a quick hotel for the night. Some where on route we will be stopping for a hour or 2 for Kids fun stuff on the way. Thursday morning we will continue on 81N stopping at Harrisonburg and then on to Harrisburg for the night. Arriving at the show Friday morning...

Leaving Sunday morning for home, same route...

I have managed to purchase a white 97 F250 'Plumbers Truck' at a Sherrif's auction that will be pulling a U-Haul car trailer with my 72 Wagon.

This will be a very intresting trip.

I will have my Treo with me where I can snap pictures & upload them directly to the site witout having a computer... Cool...

My Cell number is 256-682-1007 or 256-797-4238.

Looking to hook up with anyone traveling our way to the show.

I have many goodies I am bringing as well & a special award for one of our members... You need to be there to see this!

The only thing I have yet to secure is the U-Haul trailer which I will do the day before the trip.

One of my main goals will be to look around at the show for resources to solidify our Club (PCCA) and legitimize our organization as has been expressed by the Charter Members. I'm hoping to hook up with several of you to do this together.

I also have my fire extinguisher...
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gpinto2

Wish I could be there,but if you guys take lots of pics and put them on the site(hint.....hint),it will be like I was there
1972 Pinto 410,C-4

r4pinto

I must admit I'm a little nervous right now. I've got the oil leak fixed but I still have to reinstall the passenger tie rod end & steering column, as well as changing the rear gear & seals. Less than a week to go & I've got quite a bit to do.  :'(
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

DreamBean

pintoman, That sounds like a winner.
Phils toys, You joining us? I can't wait to see your wagon.
I can't wait to see all the rides. Mine is still not painted but I am gonna be there.
Go Ford, Go Fast Or Go Home!

phils toys

that sounds like about the time i will be ariving got home from work about 1:00 am clean up  and drive about 5 hrs.
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede