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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

5 Speed Transmission

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PonyRider62

Thanks Guys!
I'll Have To Wait Till Summer To Do Anything With The Motor And Trans..................So Broke
Save The Ponies!

The Whistler

On my current set I have 3.55 in the rear. I had 14'' all around until I got a set of 15'' wheels. I never had a problem out  of bog on acceleration even when I ran a stock ECU. With the turbo I always had over kill of power and torque. My Pinto is a 72 hatch. I tried Many different rear ratio's I found the stock ratio Ford used on the Thunderbird worked best for a street app. Also there are different T5s not all are the same. The more torque and hp you have the less dependent you are on gear. But all said and done the T9 is the easiest to install  almost bolt on lol but you would still need to change the rear gear ratio. You get the right gear ant tire combo that car should be a blast to drive around town and a dream on the interstate. Just like any modern car and you may see a noticeable change in fuel economy.
Turbo is a way of life

Wittsend

I'll add a +1 for the 3.40 gears assuming tire roughly the stock size of 13". When I went with a Turbo 2.3 I got a 3.00 8" rear end. Ironically even with 215-60-14" tires it wasn't so much that the car bogged (on acceleration under boost), in fact I liked the long-er pulls under boost. It was just that at every legally posted speed limit the 5 speed gears were either too low or the adjacent gear too high. Thus everyday driving was rather unpleasant. With the 3.40 and 175-70-13 tires the car at 65 MPH is about 2,600 RPM in 5th gear. At other (lower) legal posted speeds the RPMs are much more appropriate too.

I know we are talking rear and trans ratios here but if you have rather tall tires 3.55 might be applicable. Remember that it is the tire size, not necessarily the wheel size that matters. You can have a 185-80-13 tire and it will have a similar height to a 225 40-17 tire. The tire size it every bit as much a factor as the gear ratios.  This can be helpful.   https://tiresize.com/calculator/  There are many gear ratio calculators out there too. Just do a search. Having the wrong combination of tires, rear gears, transmission gears does not make a 5 speed trans "better" to have.

The Whistler

In order to bolt a 2.3 bell housing to a 2.0 block you will need a set of step dowels made or buy a set from Paul on Turboford. You will need them for proper Bell alignment if you use a T5 trans! Also I would recommend changing your rear diff gear to a min. of 3.40 final drive. The T5 uses a 10 spline input so you would have to use a small diameter 10 spline clutch disc.
Turbo is a way of life

PonyRider62

Thanks For The Input Guys!
I Just Got This Car For Christmas.....
Don't Know Much About It, Engine Maybe Modified But Not Sure, Has Headers And Runs Ok.
Been 30-35 Years Since I Had A Pinto.... Trying To Remember What I Knew About Them
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LongTimeFordMan

Wikilinks indicates that the t9 was also usedin the 1.6 and 2.0 l capri????

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Type_9_transmission

But i think the article was wrong and the 2.0 only had a 4 speed and the later capri had a 2.3

And there were several input shaft configurations

https://www.bearingkits.co.uk/How-to-tell-what-Ford-Type-9-gearbox-you-have/B19.htm

Also is the total length and shifter location the same as the 4 speed type e
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

LongTimeFordMan

Also.. have you done any mods to the engine.. are you sure the 2.0 will have the torque to pull the taller ratio in 5th gear..

How many revs is your engine turning at highway speed and do you have a high rev cam installed?

The stock 2.0 cam was retarded to raise the power curve. The specs rate the max torque at 3000 rpm and max power at 5800

The result is that the power curve usually starts at about 3000 to 3100 about 60 mph in 4th gear

But the stock weber 2 bbl usually wont feed the engine much over 4500 rpm so the power curve is only about 1500 rpm

The result is that power curve comes in too high to pull 4 th gear below about 60 mph so except for  flat land cruising the higher ratio of the 5 speed probably wont be useful

I had a 72 wagon and had to downshift for hills

I now have a 73 with 14" wheels, installed an adjustable cam pulley and advanced the cam about 6 degrees. That moved the power curve down about 600 rpm so the cam srts working about 2400.

A carb upgrade allows for 6000 rpm but I shift around 5500

With 14 inch tires 3.40 rear end i now cruise easily at 3000 rpm at 70 mph and can loaf around town at 40 mph at 1800 rpm in 4th gear

I have considered a 5 speed but am not sure if the engine could pull 70 mph at 2600

Switching to 14 inch tires and rims is a much cheeper and easier solution since it provides the equivalent to a 10 per cent over drive. And the cam advance and a ford 2bbl will cure the carb and torque curve problem
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

65ShelbyClone

Quote from: Wittsend on March 02, 2019, 11:45:18 AM
The T-5 is an option. I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong) the 2.3 bellhousing will bolt to the 2.0 block as it has secondary mounting holes to do so.
It's the other way around; a 2.3 block has both 2.0 and 2.3 bellhousing patterns. Only the lower four bolt holes of a 2.3 T5 bellhousing will align on a 2.0 block though.
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

Wittsend

The T-5 is an option. I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong) the 2.3 bellhousing will bolt to the 2.0 block as it has secondary mounting holes to do so. You would need a pre-87 bellhousing. I used the 86 bellcrank bellhousing on my 2.3/T-5 swap. The other questions then become does the pilot bearing fit the input shaft, the splines fit the clutch disc and the starter bolt in without issues???

Note that some have used the T-5 but the consensus is varied. Some find it OK while others say the slightest incline (or head wind) force you out of 5th gear.

65ShelbyClone

And they're rare in the U.S. because they only came in the '83-89 Merkur XR4Ti, of which the youngest is now 30 years old. Their 5-speed is referred to as the T9. They are still out there, but you might have to shop around. AFAIK it's a drop-in replacement for the Pinto 4-speed. Since the Merk made 2x the power and 3x the torque, it should last practically forever behind a stock 2.0.
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

LongTimeFordMan

I think a merkur 5 speed.. 

Its a FoG 4 speed with an additional gearset  bolted onto the rear like an overdrive..

Pretty common in europe but rare here..
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

PonyRider62

Hi All!  I Have A 1973 Pinto Wagon With A 2.0 Engine And A 4 Speed Transmission

What 5 Speed Transmission Would Bolt In?
Save The Ponies!