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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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dick1172762

Just looked at the SCCA 2017 rule book on line and in EP it says that no EP car has to weigh more than 2200 lbs or less than 1350 lbs. This max weight is before any extra weight is to be added for 10" wheels and other mods. So a 2200 lbs weight is close to what you are going to weigh after you add the rest of your cage.
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Spartan6

I will keep you in mind, for sure.

As far as the weight goes, we don't really have any clue as to what it is.  EP, acording to the SCCA rule book I have is .1.00 x displacement (cc), which should stick us at 2300#.  I think we're way lighter than that, I've got a friend with scales that we're going to use to help set up the suspension, then we'll know for sure.  We will be putting a complete cage in the car, which will add a little.  We have a lexan rear window, and no other glass other than the windshield.  We don't plan on cutting on the car any, though we may add somewhat of a wide body fender flare, because if we're going to be in a modified class, we may as well exploit the availability of wider rubber.  We've also talked about moving to a 16 inch mustang wheel, so we can use a radial slick...That's still way up in the air though.

Good to know on the starter and brakes, our starter struggles at times with the compression, and mechanically fixed advance, and going faster means we need to stop faster.

dick1172762

I am a (Korean) veteran also so I can understand what you are doing. How much the value last will only be told by time. I wish you all the best in your quest. Please make me your far flung member in the tech department. BTW I think I remember the weight of a SCCA EP car with a 2.3L engine is 2100 lbs. Your car with all sheet medal will weigh that much I think. My IT-B 80 Pinto weighed 2375 lbs with a full tank of gas and only an Autopower roll bar like yours. Its hard to drop a lot of weight on a Pinto without cutting the car up. My red 72 Pinto weighed 1970 lbs without the lead weight. The dash and the doors have the most weight you can remove. Looks like you have already done that so a little here and there is all that's left. Lexan windows will help drop some. BTW#2 A late model Ranger 2.3L starter will drop some and give you a hi-torque starter too. A 84 Ranger disc brake without power master cylinder will also help too. Please don't cut the car up just to remove a little weight. Do you live where they build those big helicopter that they use to fight fires?
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Spartan6

The fuel line will all be braid next season, that was a 1 shot test to ensure that fuel flow wasn't an issue. As far as the classification goes, we shall see. Without the motor in the car one guy can pick it up by the core support!

But yeah, having fun and introducing veterans to racing is goal one.

dick1172762

Looked at the pictures and the car looked great. Your having fun and that's what its all about. Car looks like it should fit EP forever' You might need to add weight if they ever weigh you. My red car had to carry 100 lbs of lead to make the weight in SCCA. Only thing I saw that looked bad was the fuel pump and hoses inside the car. That would be ok with AN hoses but not with rubber. I write the FAQ tech and I was the tech at the Red River Regon several years. I pick every car I see apart so don't mind me please.
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Spartan6

Quote from: dick1172762 on December 29, 2017, 09:56:08 AM
That's a new one for me. Never had the camber ever move. I autocrossed my red Pinto several years when the cost of road racing got to be too much. I ran a 4:11 with a Detroit locker with 21 x 9 slicks. For any Pinto road raced or autocrossed the biggest gain was a 9 or 10 lbs flywheel bar none. As for down on power, what timing do you run? I always ran 36 to 38 degs as its hard to run too much timing on an autocross track when most of the time your in second gear and the load on the engine is not as great as it would be in high gear. BTW there is nothing wrong running the 390 carb sideways as it works just fine that way. My son used that setup on his 74 Pinto autocross car and it ran great with no problems in tight turns. BTW#2 have you tried hill climbs with your car? Its really big in the NW with 6 or 7 races each year. Have you raced Keith Olsen's EP Pinto in your area ? Hill climb info is at  http://www.nhahillclimb.org  Please post some pictures. More later as needed~~~Dick

We haven't done a hillclimb yet, as I'm the only guy with enough experience to run.  Hoping I can get a couple of guys to get a little experience under their belts, so they can go experience one.  We're out of Medford, and I'm real old school as I remember the Keno and Onion Mountain hillclimbs. 

I've spoken to Keith a very little bit, He's about 2 hours north of us, and our cars look almost exactly alike, so people have confused one for the other.  We ran EP last year, but likely will fall into a modified class of some sort next year, as the power to weight ratio doesn't technically meet class requirements.

We have tons of pictures and videos at: https://www.facebook.com/roguespartansracing/ For whatever reason, I'm not allowed to upload here.

dick1172762

This site will tell you all there is about racing a 2.3L engine.   http://www.4m.net/archive/index.php/f-24.htm   Its very long but GREAT tech on a 2.3L  Also 4m.net is a mini stock site.
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dick1172762

That's a new one for me. Never had the camber ever move. I autocrossed my red Pinto several years when the cost of road racing got to be too much. I ran a 4:11 with a Detroit locker with 21 x 9 slicks. For any Pinto road raced or autocrossed the biggest gain was a 9 or 10 lbs flywheel bar none. As for down on power, what timing do you run? I always ran 36 to 38 degs as its hard to run too much timing on an autocross track when most of the time your in second gear and the load on the engine is not as great as it would be in high gear. BTW there is nothing wrong running the 390 carb sideways as it works just fine that way. My son used that setup on his 74 Pinto autocross car and it ran great with no problems in tight turns. BTW#2 have you tried hill climbs with your car? Its really big in the NW with 6 or 7 races each year. Have you raced Keith Olsen's EP Pinto in your area ? Hill climb info is at  http://www.nhahillclimb.org  Please post some pictures. More later as needed~~~Dick
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Spartan6

We primarily will be using the pinto as an autocross car with the occasional trip to Portland or Thunderhill for driver's training events.  We are very fortunate out here to have a purpose built autocross/kart track right in town, it's got kerbs and everything. So we are lucky in that we don't have to play in the cones.

I think the non-profit is just about wrapped up, and our goal for 2018 is to continue our autocross program as well as reaching out into ICSCC racing and possibly some NASA club stuff, with the target being the 8 hour enduro at PIR in October, and then on to the 25 hours of Thunderhill next December.  Though all of that will be run in one of our big boy Mustang race cars.

I've talked to Brian Walsh about several things, he's been a good resource for sure, and I'm sure will continue to be.

If you have a good way of keeping the camber from slipping, I'd love to hear it!  Other than being down on power and lean, that was our biggest struggle last year.  We'd set our camber only to find, by the end of the weekend that it had slipped into the -6 deg neighborhood, which kept about 4in of our 9.5in wide slicks, in the air and not working.

We love the pinto.  It always gathers a crowd, and then shocks people with how quick and nimble it is.  And it will soldier on as the car that introduces these veterans to road racing.

I do thank you again for your advice, and I know I'll be back for more.

dick1172762

More than glad to help you when I can. I've spent the last 46 years playing with my 16 Pintos. Have you though of racing vintage? Almost all the Pintos racing today are racing vintage. Racer Walsh's son is the most well known Pinto but there are several more including my old red Pinto. All 3000 miles from you, but there must be vintage races somewhere in the nw. If I was to start racing again, vintage is were I would go.
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Spartan6

I appreciate the insight, and didn't mean to come off as a know-it-all, by any means.  We're takers off any and all tips and tricks available.

Part of our program, working with veterans, involves working on, troubleshooting, modifying, and making better or worse through trial and error.  We found out last season that, for our purposes, the 350cfm 2bbl and EFI manifold doesn't cut it.  One of the guys stumbled upon the old Racer Walsh Catalog (1973?) and the 6114 and 4bbl were listed, so we've sourced those, and will see if it makes a difference.

If we find that's not taking us where we want to go, I'm sure we'll look for other options.  We don't have a particular class or HP limit to adhere to, so we may even go turbo one day.

I do really appreciate the advice though, and I'm sure we'll have more in the future.

dick1172762

There are several things you need to consider. First of all by the time the 2.3 Lima engine hit the market the under 2.5 trans am class was on the way out. I never saw / heard of a 2.3 Lima Pinto being raced in the class. They were raced in the IMSA classes by people like Racer Walsh. Second of all I never saw / heard of any 2.5 L racer that didn't use DCOE Weber's. All of the cars in the 2.5 L class used Webers. Third, after the 2.5 L class was dropped, and most of the Pintos ended up in B-Sedan SCCA races, the really fast ones used a 2.0 L weber intake with an adapter to fit the 2.3 Lima engine. I raced the B-sedan class all over the mid-west and Weber's were all I ever saw reguardless of the type or make of the cars. The IMSA cars had to run a Holley 500 cfm two barrel carb per their rules. Fourth, the 390 cfm Holley was never a track carb and was only used for the street mostly on small V6 and 4 cylinder cars. This is what I saw / heard / read in the last 46 Years of Pinto building / racing / autocrossing. Go Weber's or go slow rime would surely fit here. If you really want to go fast, get a set of the GT-Pinto rules and you will marvel at how fast those car went with very few mods. They ran a stock intake with a Holley 500 two barrel carb, a header, and any cam. The cars were very fast and the build cost very little.
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Spartan6

Quote from: Wittsend on December 09, 2017, 09:34:40 PM
This might help:  http://www.fordpinto.com/general-help/how-does-a-4-bbl-fit-on-my-pinto/

Appreciate it, thanks.  I think we've figured out a mod that'll let us put it on 90 degrees off of the usual method.

Spartan6

Quote from: dick1172762 on December 11, 2017, 08:42:00 AM
A good ported EFI intake with a Holly 350 or a Motorcraft carb will preform better than any 6114 intake. The EFI intake with a Holly 350 or 500 carb is what most of the mini stock racers use. The Autolite / Motorcraft carb is the easy way to go with equal gains of the Holly.

We ran a 2bbl carb on the efi intake last season, they didn't do well.  Our engine is a little strange, whoever built it went to a lot of trouble to spin it to 9k, but didn't bother opening up the head at all.  We're fixing that this winter.  We'll still be real high compression, but going from stock valves to the big ones, opening the head up, increasing lift from .435/.460 to .584, etc, etc, etc.  As we're road race/autocross, that off corner grunt is priceless, and we cant keep it with a single plane manifold and the 2bbl. 

We're basically building a 2.5 challenge trans am car, and some of the later ones ran the offy with a 390cfm 4bbl.

dick1172762

Best running / fastest 2.3L Pinto I ever saw used a 2.0L weber intake with an adapter to fit a 2.3L head plus DCOE Weber 45's. Owner stated that on the dyno it made 250 HP.
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Quote from: dick1172762 on December 11, 2017, 08:42:00 AM
A good ported EFI intake with a Holly 350 or a Motorcraft carb will preform better than any 6114 intake. The EFI intake with a Holly 350 or 500 carb is what most of the mini stock racers use. The Autolite / Motorcraft carb is the easy way to go with equal gains of the Holly.
I R  a DCOE as opposed to IDF or IDA, But then I have to Baffle my sense of humor daily ;)  Sorry ,I couldn't resist ::)
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dick1172762

A good ported EFI intake with a Holly 350 or a Motorcraft carb will preform better than any 6114 intake. The EFI intake with a Holly 350 or 500 carb is what most of the mini stock racers use. The Autolite / Motorcraft carb is the easy way to go with equal gains of the Holly.
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Spartan6

Alright, we finally found the coveted offy 6114dp intake, and have procured a 4bbl carburetor that should be small enough to not overload our race motor, but also give us more wallop than the 2bbl on the ranger efi manifold.

My question is, the 2 barrel had the float bowl facing forward, and as this is a road race car,  that made sense, the 4 barrel looks like it needs to go on with the bowls pointed 90 degrees different,  does anyone know if we can put it on front to back, or will that screw with the dual plane setup? I just worry about one metering block or the other starving, depending on which direction we're turning.

Thanks.