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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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dick1172762

Quote from: Wittsend on December 05, 2017, 12:38:21 PM
I'm wondering if it is a leverage issue. That being running larger wheels/taller tires exerts a greater leverage on the braking system and thus reducing the braking ability??? Frankly on the street I find the '73 Pinto brakes marginal at best. There certainly is no reassurance that I am stopping fast enough.  But then I find the brakes in my 2000 Protege to be far superior to my wife's 2010 Civic. Maybe because the brakes in the Protege are SO GOOD that everything else seems substandard.
On a 71/73 Pinto, the right pads make a world of difference in the way it stops. I used the simi metallic pads from NAPA on the street and metal master on the race car. Both worked great but the metal masters were not suited for the street due to the fact they needed to be hot before they worked good.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

Pintosopher

Another influence to "feel" and ultimately Stopping Power ( with a given standard M/C and calipers) are the Brake hose materials. By switching to braided Stainless Hoses and Slotted rotors up front, my 84 GTI does fine with all other components stock sized. If the Proportioning valve is doing its job properly, The Bleeding process and Pad/ Shoe material are the way to improved stopping. This of course has nothing to do with ABS vehicles unless you have experience with electronics and centralized PCM vehicles.

Pintosopher, Bled by the Hotel , adding pad area to stop the room rates from climbing ;D
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

dick1172762

Some of the things I've seen on cars makes little sense like wider tires making the steering easyer or a smaller steering wheel making the steering easyer. How about the rear brakes on my Pinto filling up with gear lube do to the wrong seals yet the lap times staying the same as before the oil got in the drums. Then we have the story of the headers being beat to death with a hammer with NO loss of hp on the dyno as posted by me in the FAQ (tech tips) forum. Then there's my 93 Suburban that had a rad leak so I removed the guts from the rad cap to releave the pressure and stop the leak. That was 8 years and 100,000 miles ago and the cap is still on the rad which had the leak fixted. You just cannot explain some things you would have bet money on.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

Wittsend

I'm wondering if it is a leverage issue. That being running larger wheels/taller tires exerts a greater leverage on the braking system and thus reducing the braking ability??? Frankly on the street I find the '73 Pinto brakes marginal at best. There certainly is no reassurance that I am stopping fast enough.  But then I find the brakes in my 2000 Protege to be far superior to my wife's 2010 Civic. Maybe because the brakes in the Protege are SO GOOD that everything else seems substandard.

dick1172762

I road raced my 72 Pinto for 20 years with the stock master cylinder and disc brakes up front equipped with metal master brake pads. I never had one problem with the brakes in that 20 years and I really wonder why anyone would want to mess with the factory set up. If you need better brakes forget the stock set up and go with after market brakes. Just don't mess with a good thing please.
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Pintosopher

Quote from: Wittsend on December 04, 2017, 09:00:30 PM
An orifice may delay the amount of pressure but it will ultimately not restrict the full amount of pressure. As far as M/C to Caliper/Wheel Cylinder size goes there are formulas for that. The builders do all the math to get that right..., but there is some leeway. Emphasis on the word "some."  Thus one can go to a slightly smaller M/C and get a somewhat easier pedal. But as mentioned it comes at the cost of (lengthening) pedal travel. If the driver is OK with that "feel" and the travel still leaves a reserve before bottoming out then that is a matter of preference.

As far as to why the smaller M/C makes for an easier pedal..., it is all about the resistance of volume. Consider the plunger on a floor or bottle jack. The smaller it is the easier to move, but at the cost of multiple pumps. In brakes you don't "pump" them. So you get one shot. Too much volume and the pedal gets hard. Too little and the pedal bottoms out. Just right is a small window that allows for a little size variation.
This sounds like relationship counseling, but then I digress :D
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

Wittsend

An orifice may delay the amount of pressure but it will ultimately not restrict the full amount of pressure. As far as M/C to Caliper/Wheel Cylinder size goes there are formulas for that. The builders do all the math to get that right..., but there is some leeway. Emphasis on the word "some."  Thus one can go to a slightly smaller M/C and get a somewhat easier pedal. But as mentioned it comes at the cost of (lengthening) pedal travel. If the driver is OK with that "feel" and the travel still leaves a reserve before bottoming out then that is a matter of preference.

As far as to why the smaller M/C makes for an easier pedal..., it is all about the resistance of volume. Consider the plunger on a floor or bottle jack. The smaller it is the easier to move, but at the cost of multiple pumps. In brakes you don't "pump" them. So you get one shot. Too much volume and the pedal gets hard. Too little and the pedal bottoms out. Just right is a small window that allows for a little size variation.

Srt


wouldn't the pressure be regulated by the size of the orifice at the exit from the master?  The increased volume of fluid needed (especially in larger calipers &/or brake cylinders will also lower the pressure.
If you are pushing into a larger volume with the stock master the end result is that, as others have suggested, you will run out of travel & hence the pressure in the calipers/cylinders will be lower.


I think !
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

Wittsend

As Dick states you will get more pressure with a smaller M/C..., but it comes at the cost of pedal travel.  It seems that the smaller the M/C the better but if you hit the floor before the brakes lock..., not so. So, if you go with unboosted brakes and want a stronger feel go prudently in your downsizing. There are likely sizing tutorials somewhere on the internet but the "math" does not translate into "feel" and my assumption is it is kind of a trial and error process of the average man.

dick1172762

The smaller the bore is the more pressure you have. You can use a 84 Ranger non power brakes master cylinder to clean up under your hood but it too is 15/16. It will not rust and look like it was made back in the 20's like the stock master cylinder will do. Ranger mc will require  work on the length of the rod. I made mine adjustable.
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Reeves1

Been thinking a bigger master cyl would work better ?

Especially folks that use a 9" diff & bigger fronts.

Anyone try this & which one used ?

If my info is right, the Pinto is 15/16 bore .

Mustang equal is 1" bore. Better ?