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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Ponies Dreamin' in the Barn

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dga57

Quote from: cutelitlputtputt on December 18, 2017, 02:05:31 PM


As I looked out in the parking lot today I only see one Pinto!! LOL!!! 
Only one Pinto on the freeway today coming in!!!


That's pretty much the norm anywhere you go!

Dwayne ;D
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Pintosopher

More rustling in the shadows of the Stables, A whiff of fresh fuel vents from a evap canister in a pony recently hobbled in the last stall. A draft of cold air disperses the vapor and the sun rises slowly as dawn moves into view. More winter settles deeper into the nearly shortest day of the year as it is a busy season for holiday activities.
The next moon will gleam through the skylights of many domains, Stars twinkling, Frost drawing the woods into a icy embrace. The Day of the Big Guy is nearly at hand, and the riders have a massive kettle of Christmas Stew cooking in the Bunkhouse. The Cook has made a large batch of butter cookies and the Milk is chillin for the visitation. A wood stove glows in the corner as the heat brings the laughter and other musings .
A Hallmark moment for the many riders and their Steeds :D

Pintosopher, Jingling all the way, and no loose bushings to disturb the Apex
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

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Pintosopher

Quote from: cutelitlputtputt on December 18, 2017, 04:36:51 PM
Oh my God!!!

Joe, you have a library of pictures or what??!!

....I seen the troll.  Remember all that Pirate Talk! and remember your brother thought we were all nuts !!
I'm cracking up here.  I have to remember I'm at work laughing to myself.
Now Jenn, I did ask your permission, and you're lucky I didn't get to make that trip to Pinto World to help out. Who knows what photos would have existed.
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

dick1172762

Jennifer! Get yourself a mechanic for a boy friend. Every girl racer I've ever known had one turning the wrench's somewhere in the background. Husband or boyfriend made no difference.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

cutelitlputtputt

Oh my God!!!

Joe, you have a library of pictures or what??!!

....I seen the troll.  Remember all that Pirate Talk! and remember your brother thought we were all nuts !!
I'm cracking up here.  I have to remember I'm at work laughing to myself.
Anything to keep her runnin'!

Pintosopher

Quote from: cutelitlputtputt on December 17, 2017, 11:05:36 AM
Ahhhh, miss that time and Fred!

Now, many of you have accused Annie of being a fake and plastic person

I assure you she's down to earth and is one cool chick!

Yep , She was down to earth, and then she picked herself up and became a Model of  Mannequination ;D
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

Pintosopher

Quote from: cutelitlputtputt on December 18, 2017, 02:05:31 PM
My fiddling with vacuum lines helped!  Once she is warmed up, she is happy!!!


Dwayne, As I looked out in the parking lot today I only see one Pinto!! LOL!!! 
Only one Pinto on the freeway today coming in!!!
I'm not sure what fiddling you did, But if you hum a few bars, I'll pick it up on the next break ;)
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

cutelitlputtputt

My fiddling with vacuum lines helped!  Once she is warmed up, she is happy!!!


Dwayne, As I looked out in the parking lot today I only see one Pinto!! LOL!!! 
Only one Pinto on the freeway today coming in!!!
Anything to keep her runnin'!

Pintosopher

Ahh A new week begins.. The Ponies slumber in the stables, the hum of a few trickle chargers cut the darkness and chill in the air..
Dreams are the fabric of the future: we scan the fabric of time, looking for guidance... ::)
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

Pintosopher

Good point Dwayne, We all have problems , Life deals them out daily, we just overcome as needed  ;) Onward to the next day! ;D
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

dga57

Quote from: cutelitlputtputt on December 17, 2017, 09:21:52 PM

Not one person in my office has any of the same problems that I have.  I don't think anyone in the office building has my problems!!!
   


I'll bet not one other person in your office drives a 37-year-old Ford Pinto either!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

cutelitlputtputt

Annie is cool under pressure!

I was fiddling around a little bit with the vacuum lines.  Why not, my guess is as good as anyone's!!!  I don't think anyone really knows about where they all go. 
One was laying on top of the radiator recently.  I have been trying to figure it out since.  My guys fixed an oil leak and I think things got a little mixed up. 

She was running.  It was kind of funny, she let me know if she did not like what I did!!!  Musical vacuum lines!  Russian Roulette

I stand alone with my car problems.
Not one person in my office has any of the same problems that I have.  I don't think anyone in the office building has my problems!!!
I keep my mouth shut.......   
Anything to keep her runnin'!

dga57

Quote from: cutelitlputtputt on December 17, 2017, 11:05:36 AM
Ahhhh, miss that time and Fred!

Now, many of you have accused Annie of being a fake and plastic person

I assure you she's down to earth and is one cool chick!




I'll bet she stays calm, cool, and collected even in the worst of catastrophes!  You're looking pretty cool yourself, there! 

Dwayne :)

Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Pintosopher

Quote from: cutelitlputtputt on December 17, 2017, 04:24:26 PM
He did have 3 of  them!!  He did like Pintos, but if he was still here he probably think me nuts for keeping mine so long!!!

He got all of his dirt cheap and did not put lots of money into them. 

As for me, I have poured all kinds of cash into it - I will never get it back!!  I have prolonged her life unnaturally  ....
Jennifer, Once you start down the path of the Wrench, it will forever dominate your destiny ;) As a apprentice of the arts of Torque and Fab, I feel the currents of renewal that permeate your story.. Much you have learned, much you will yet learn :)

Pintosopher, Rogue One, a loose pony of the stampede, hoofbeats in the wind :)
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

cutelitlputtputt

He did have 3 of  them!!  He did like Pintos, but if he was still here he probably think me nuts for keeping mine so long!!!

He got all of his dirt cheap and did not put lots of money into them. 

As for me, I have poured all kinds of cash into it - I will never get it back!!  I have prolonged her life unnaturally  ....
Anything to keep her runnin'!

dick1172762

Was your dad a Pinto gearhead? If so how very lucky you were to have someone to guide you in your Pinto odyssey.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

cutelitlputtputt

Yes it is!  When I was unemployed I drove out to Arizona.  We put my dad's Pinto engine in my Pinto
Anything to keep her runnin'!

dick1172762

Jennifer is that your Pinto Fred is working on? Same year and color.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

cutelitlputtputt

Ahhhh, miss that time and Fred!

Now, many of you have accused Annie of being a fake and plastic person

I assure you she's down to earth and is one cool chick!
Anything to keep her runnin'!

Pintosopher

Quote from: cutelitlputtputt on December 16, 2017, 11:45:10 PM
Thanks Joe!

I don't know where you keep all these pictures, but go ahead ....
I've had a little more wear and tear since that particular picture!!
Ok , Jenn..
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

cutelitlputtputt

Quote from: pintosopher on December 16, 2017, 05:10:22 PM
Nope that's not Jennifer, But from my Data she's pretty slender. If she wishes, I'll post a Pic of her changing the Engine in her Orange runabout at Pinto World. Even Annie was there too! But We respect her Muse and the creativity she brings to the artistic side of this community. :)

Thanks Joe!

I don't know where you keep all these pictures, but go ahead ....
I've had a little more wear and tear since that particular picture!! 
Anything to keep her runnin'!

cutelitlputtputt

Ummmm,  I can't see any picture that Reeves posted

Here's a picture of me .... yeah, here it is....yeah, that's it ..  !
Anything to keep her runnin'!

Pintosopher

Nope that's not Jennifer, But from my Data she's pretty slender. If she wishes, I'll post a Pic of her changing the Engine in her Orange runabout at Pinto World. Even Annie was there too! But We respect her Muse and the creativity she brings to the artistic side of this community. :)
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

Reeves1

Quote from: dick1172762 on December 16, 2017, 03:00:03 PM
Looks like a view from "CARS". If that's Jennifer in the picture, she sure is tall and trim. Just right for driving a Pinto. Its hard for large people to fit in a Pinto. My son is 6-3 and 290 lbs and doesn't fit in the Pinto. I'm 6-1 and 185 lbs and just do fit. I've gone to a 13 1/2" steering wheel and changed the angle of the steering column, plus I removed two of the baby buggy bumpers that go between the bottom and top section of the seat to allow the top to lean back more. Can you say loooo rider! I've lowered the car as much as I can and still make it in and out of my driveway. I may end up with a skid plate under the engine like the rally cars. The streets here in nw Arkansas are really good and smooth. Lots of lowered ricers here. Ricers are much harder to lower than a Pinto. Pintos are really easy to lower as long as you don't go crazy and put it on the deck. I've only lowered mine about a 1 1/2 all the way around, so there's a lot left if I want too. With a spoiler on front and back plus the wide wheels and tires it really looks like it ready for the roads in the Ozark's.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alyx4QeRRdg

dick1172762

Looks like a view from "CARS". If that's Jennifer in the picture, she sure is tall and trim. Just right for driving a Pinto. Its hard for large people to fit in a Pinto. My son is 6-3 and 290 lbs and doesn't fit in the Pinto. I'm 6-1 and 185 lbs and just do fit. I've gone to a 13 1/2" steering wheel and changed the angle of the steering column, plus I removed two of the baby buggy bumpers that go between the bottom and top section of the seat to allow the top to lean back more. Can you say loooo rider! I've lowered the car as much as I can and still make it in and out of my driveway. I may end up with a skid plate under the engine like the rally cars. The streets here in nw Arkansas are really good and smooth. Lots of lowered ricers here. Ricers are much harder to lower than a Pinto. Pintos are really easy to lower as long as you don't go crazy and put it on the deck. I've only lowered mine about a 1 1/2 all the way around, so there's a lot left if I want too. With a spoiler on front and back plus the wide wheels and tires it really looks like it ready for the roads in the Ozark's.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

Pintosopher

Another Friday passed, Serious momentum was seen. The Hay truck has arrived on the estate and the Stables will gladly stock the Barn with Feed..
In a dream, the decorations of the barn will be sending Joy to the many ponies in the corral. Will the Frolicking of the herd overwhelm the gray skies of indifference and apathy? We shall see as the many will have a shot at glee and celebration, fate has a way with the virtuous and humble.
Now we shall see as the twin post of life raises the vehicles of our entertainment to start a year with expectation of accomplishment and compassion.
Pintosopher, Grabbing the Breaker bar of living and adding an extension for leverage ;D
Many thanks to cutelitlputtputt for the Art work shown
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

Pintosopher

Quote from: Reeves1 on December 15, 2017, 05:30:03 PM




Yup! that's the expression. Used to walk past the IRL Dyno Cells at Comptech in 2001 and get the blast of Methanol fumes from a Olds IRL V8 at full song.. Carried me all morning in My warehouse job there, and then there was the IMSA GTPL NSX , and INDY car stored in my warehouse side room to get my gearhead on! :P 
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

Reeves1

Quote from: pintosopher on December 15, 2017, 10:42:04 AM
Daydream Believer and a Shiney Aluminum Gleam...
Oh yes, I wish the fumes of a well tuned Ford of any engine configuration, will attack the sniffer attached to your cranium, and that the resulting endorphin rush will send your thoughts to getting the Gearhead buried in your head, out to play! ;D

Pintosopher, loose screws in the drawer, not under the car ;)




Pintosopher

Quote from: cutelitlputtputt on December 15, 2017, 04:14:00 PM
I was going to make an off-color joke about preferring "stacked"
but I will refrain!
Knoughty Naughty Knotty ;D Your restraint is timely, and in tune with the Tymes! :-X
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

cutelitlputtputt

Quote from: pintosopher on December 15, 2017, 07:07:41 AM
Hmm, although Turbo's are nice, I prefer my Engines to be "stacked"  :D And the sound must be delirious when it comes on the "cam". The only "reeking"  I prefer comes from spent fuel at least 104 octane ::)
Although the race gas from the Pump is a VOC drug of the Nose blind ;D
Pintosopher, Yes , a Multiple Venturi Life makes the Horsey whinney at full gallop 8)

I was going to make an off-color joke about preferring "stacked"
but I will refrain!
Anything to keep her runnin'!