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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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65ShelbyClone

Quote from: Pintoman1971 on August 17, 2015, 02:21:23 PM
I would like it to be able to go around corners still lol so when you say a 2.3 are you talking about a turbo 2.3 out of a thunderbird and mustang? Whats the wiring harness change like?? You vote turbo the 2.0? whats capable out of the 2.0 with a turbo and how hard is it to do a turbo 2.0?? Keep in mind it will be a complete engine build, so its not gunna be a stock engine on high boost.

You mentioned handling, so I'm going to point out that a 2.3T (yes, out of an '83-89 turbo Ford/Merkur) weighs only slightly less than a 5.0L V8. By "slightly" I mean within just 20-30lbs. Your 2.0 car is going to sag by at least 1.5" with a 2.3T in there and it will handle like a sinking boat until you seriously address the suspension.

Quote from: Pintoman1971 on August 17, 2015, 02:42:42 PM
I would be happy with anywhere from 200-300 horse. Ive read that the 2.3s are pretty capable of such horsepower. Would love to keep the 2.0 in it to keep it original but im not thinking its going to put out the power im looking for.

I think you would be surprised at how fast a 2400-2600lb Pinto feels with 160-170rwhp and the torque that a 2.3T makes. 240rwhp wouldn't tax the stock parts that much and would make a 2600lb Pinto about as fast as a 300rwhp/3300lb Mustang.

If I knew then what I know now, I would have very seriously considered turbocharging the original 2.0. It is going to need forged pistons and decent rods. In fact, I almost bought some AK Miller turbo parts before finding a whole 2.3T donor car and falling down the whole 2.3-into-an-early-Pinto-swap rabbit hole.

The AK Miller parts aren't common, but they can be found for not terribly bad prices if you have the luxury of time to shop around. The nice thing about a carbureted turbo setup like that is not having to do any major fuel system plumbing nor major wiring. Keep in mind that when the AK Miller kits were made, there was no such thing as the T3 turbos we take for granted now. The smallest turbo housing flange was a T4. Finding a T4 footprint turbo that will work on such a small engine isn't easy now. There are adapters, of course. Then there's the gotcha of turbo compressors seals. Modern turbos have dynamic seals that will not control oil well when a carb or throttle body is put on the compressor inlet(like an AK Miller). The seal needs to be of the carbon positive type which is readily available for pre-GT series Garrett turbos and many others, but they are not a default option when buying.
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

pinto_one

 The first one i done (nearly thirty five years ago ) I drilled the hole in the block on the right side between the motor mount casting and alternator casting bolt holes , taped out to 5/8 when done , the next one done was in the same area but welded a pipe nipple at the top of the oil pan rails on the oil pan,  your best bet would to check with burton power for a exhaust turbo manifold , over in europe they have tons of parts for these engines , even a alum block if you have the money , you can see 175 to 200 reliable HP out of the engine if you do not get to greedy with the Boost , also check over seas web site on 2000rs escort and capri , or even 2.0 pinto engine because at the time i think ford sucked the whole supply of the 2.0 engines for the pinto , good luck and do your homework before you tear into the car , best is already have most of the parts on hand when you do , last thing is do not cut anything on the body , you do not have to and you will waste the car , its to valuable , later Blaine
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

Pintoman1971

where do most people drill the hole in the block for oil return? Guessing you tap the hole after its drilled? What would be your guess for horsepower out of the build youre talking about? Is it possible to do a bore/stroke with a turbo? I dont know much about turbos, but im slowly learning and reading. Thanks for the good input  8)

pinto_one

Well if you find most of the kit you will only have to make a few simple things , brackets that holds carb to turbo adaptor , exhaust down tube from the back of turbo , oil return line that drains back into the engine , and oil supply line to the turbo , last if your going to make it a daily diver I would find a 1980 turbo 2.3 carb, it has the 12 volts choke heater than the water unit you have on it now and it also has a external tube to the power valve that ties into the manifold side of the engine to since boost and supply more fuel , have a mide turbo cam and 8 to 1 Pistons , drill hole in button of block for the fitting for oil return from turbo , locate hospital nearby to have surgery to remove smile after first drive 😀
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

Pintoman1971

So ive read basically every post there is on here about the AK Miller turbo kit for the 2.0. I know what i need to find as far as the turbo kit. But now im wondering what other parts will I need to get or fabricate?

oldkayaker

If you are staying with the 2.0 and its parts availability challenges, suggest you get the David Vizard's good book (note age of info).
http://www.amazon.com/How-Hotrod-your-2-0-liter-Ford/dp/0895863650/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1439938618&sr=1-1&keywords=0895863650

The first link has a photo of the Ak Miller set up parts.  The second link is to turbopinto72's 2.0 turbo build using some Ak Miller parts.
http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?topic=21802.msg135718#msg135718
http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?topic=33.0
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

76hotrodpinto

My turbo swap was the first time I've dealt with either turbo or efi (to that extent). The best advice I think I got, was go with a factory made system, for learning. I Have read/heard so many stories of guys just blowing thru heads and blocks trying to learn the lessons of the turbo world. With a swap situation, you can know it all ran (and how), before hand. Not as many opportunities for surprises. You can always upgrade as you want later. I'm very glad I went that route myself. Turbo for dummies!
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

Pintoman1971

Also what carb would I want to upgrade to? was looking into sidedrafts but Im not sure if it will work with the ak miller kit. Maybe switch to fuel injection?

Pintoman1971

anyone got pics of the AK miller turbo kit installed on a 2.0?? How hard is it to locate one of these kits? and what all is needed to install the kit?

fast64ranchero

A turbo'd 2.0 will make 300whp no problem, Big John on this site has a AK miller setup that you might get from him.
71 Pro-Street pinto 2.3T powered
72 Treasure Valley Special 26K miles pinto
72 old V-8 parts Pinto
73 pinto, the nice one...

Svoturbo92

I have a turbo 2.3 turbo system up for sale if your interested let me know..

72DutchWagon

I did a search on this site but no hits on skogenracing which surprised me.
I suggest that every one with an interest in 2.0 Pinto performance visit the swedish site http://www.skogenracing.org/, and have a look at there vid's like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7OnjQZiytM .
The swedes are well known for turboing 2.0 Pinto's on a budget, instead of doing up expensive (Pinto based) cosworth turbo's.
Unlucky for US fans is that all the scrapyard hunting grounds are on the wrong side of the atlantic.

pinto_one

Well if it still running and want a few more ponys , well quite a few more I would just build up the 2.0 as a turbo engine , parts can be found , and as a few people reported that burton power in England has the parts , brought a few parts for my 2.8 , most people believe the 2.0 in the pinto was stopped being made around 74 is wrong , they made it his engine up past 2010, they even have EFI , if the car is a nice one and not a rust bucket and can be restored , I would not cut the car up to do any engine swaps, the 71 is becoming very rare and just doing a few engine mods would be the way to go and easier on the pocket, some good low compression Pistons , mild turbo cam, AK miller turbo exhaust manifold and a turbo, last one I did was back in the late 70s , it was a draw though , the turbo was a T4 B , had the seals so the vacuum would not zoop the oil out into the intake system,  good port job , and a 3.55 rear end gear would do very well , at a later date when you want to sell or restore the car just remove the turbo and install the stock stuff back, save the car , like land they do not make anymore
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

Pintoman1971

What would i expect for power out of a completely over hauled 2.0? Maybe a long stroke, bore it out and major headwork with out a turbo or supercharger? Above the 200 marker? or will i need a supercharger or turbo to reach that.

C. M. Wolf

http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/2_8L_Performance.html

Hunt yourself up a 2.8 Cologne engine and an even better trans & rear-end gear-set.. Gearing is everything..

You'll maybe not see 300 horse out of it.. but you keep up with Porches and still be able to pass a gas station too..

fast64ranchero

Quote from: Pintoman1971 on August 17, 2015, 03:50:27 PM
What kind of power would you expect to get out of a built 2.0 with head work and a turbo? or maybe a supercharger? Seems like the 2.3 swap is a bit more than im up for honestly. Your write up was the first detailed write up ive came across, Thanks Wittsend!

You can get 300whp out of one, the problem is finding good parts for the early 2.0L.  Have a look at Burtonpower.com.
I have done a Turbo 2.3 in a 71 and have almost everything to finish a turbo install on my 72 with a 2.0L.  You will spend more money on a turbo 2.0 but won't have to go through the hassle of cutting out motor mounts and installing later 2.3 motor mounts, and finding a oil pan for a 2.3
71 Pro-Street pinto 2.3T powered
72 Treasure Valley Special 26K miles pinto
72 old V-8 parts Pinto
73 pinto, the nice one...

Pintoman1971

What kind of power would you expect to get out of a built 2.0 with head work and a turbo? or maybe a supercharger? Seems like the 2.3 swap is a bit more than im up for honestly. Your write up was the first detailed write up ive came across, Thanks Wittsend!

Pintoman1971

I would be happy with anywhere from 200-300 horse. Ive read that the 2.3s are pretty capable of such horsepower. Would love to keep the 2.0 in it to keep it original but im not thinking its going to put out the power im looking for.

Wittsend

A couple of comments:

"I want my 71 runabout to eventually have around 300 horse."
300 HP from a small 4 cylinder and reliable usually don't go hand in hand. There are some that are more reliable than others, but anytime you increase the power output it comes at the lessening of reliability over the long run.  BTW, is there a reason you chose 300HP? Again, a smaller engine will only bring that type of power at high RPM's with a spiky torque curve. Not the best for reliability or mileage either.

"I have been looking at a 2.3 turbo, havent found too much info on a swap into a 71 and what exactly is needed step by step."
In addition to others, recently 65 Shelby Cobra has done a running write up on his '72 project. While there are some differences with a 74-up Pintos, 76 Hot Rod Pinto has done likewise. My '73 has a write up in two parts.  So, in fact there are pages and pages to read all about it. Note that 71-73 swaps are virtually the same and even 74-up swaps have minor differences.

65 Shelby Cobra's Turbo 72 Pinto build: "My 1972 turbo swap thread"
http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?topic=24739.0

76 Hot Rod Pinto's Turbo 76 Pinto build "Taking the Turbo Plunge":
http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?topic=25663.0

Wittsend (me)Turbo 73 Pinto build: "So you want to build a Turbo Pinto (Parts 1 and 2)"
http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?topic=11908.msg76893#msg76893
http://www.fordpinto.com/general-pinto-talk/so-you-want-to-build-a-turbo-pinto-part-2/msg76894/?topicseen#msg76894



Pintoman1971

Yeah i have no desire for a v8 in it. Pretty pointless for what i want the car to do. I would like it to be able to go around corners still lol so when you say a 2.3 are you talking about a turbo 2.3 out of a thunderbird and mustang? Whats the wiring harness change like?? You vote turbo the 2.0? whats capable out of the 2.0 with a turbo and how hard is it to do a turbo 2.0?? Keep in mind it will be a complete engine build, so its not gunna be a stock engine on high boost.

pinto_one

One thing you have going for you is its a 71 , the lightest pinto, a few hundred pounds to the lean side so if you would turbo the 2.0  ( I see kits still floating around out there) it would run very well,  or drop a turbo 2.3 in it but hurry because these are drying up and starting to be harder to find , and the price will go up also, stuffing a V 8 into it is kind of mute also, unless it's all aluminum,
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

76hotrodpinto

1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

Pintoman1971

Ive been doing some research but i still have questions. Im curious of what to do, I want my 71 runabout to eventually have around 300 horse. I know its alot to ask for but Im looking for something that i will be able to take to the local track and strip every now and then. I know the 2.0 isnt capable of such horsepower, which options would you all recommend? I played with the thought of a supercharged 2.0 but still not thinking its going to get near the hp i want. Looking for something that will drop some jaws and also be reliable. I have been looking at a 2.3 turbo, havent found too much info on a swap into a 71 and what exactly is needed step by step. So many opinions on whats the better option and would like to hear some info from numerous people hopefully with personal experience. Hopefully i will be able to have a list of all the things i need before i start collecting the parts. Let me know what you all think. Thanks a bunch, its appreciated.