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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Is the Offenhauser 2.0L dual plane 2 barrel version any good?

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amc49

The higher plane has to make a pretty sharp turn. Manifold is still technically a single plane since ALL engine cylinders can still run from one bore. Just two single plane manifolds stacked on each other. Offy had to come up with a gimmick to offset their competition from Edelbrock, who usually kicked their butt all over the room. A true dual plane has half the cylinders pulling from one plane and the other half from the other.

At one time Offy offered a single plane in that casting with no divider at all and a Holley 500 two barrel fully open base mounting point for racing only. Hot Rod? magazine doing a story on 2.3s used it on a stage 3 engine with big .525 lift cam to put out 260+ hp. with no forced induction, but a race engine only, it didn't begin to make power till about 5000 rpm.

dick1172762

Those  were pure junk when they were new and I'm sure their no better now. Gas/air had to make a 90 deg turn after the carb. Not good.
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jeremysdad

Quote from: Pinto5.0 on March 12, 2014, 04:06:32 PM
I'm curious about this one. I've never seen another like it. Open box plenum with 2 level runners. That should make them equal length but you gotta wonder about distribution issues.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Weiand-7274-Pinto-intake-manifold-/261420426287?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item3cdddf242f&vxp=mtr

I see a 4-2 barrel adapter on the top, which would make the separation a moot point. I see a Holley pattern wide bolt pattern.

Pinto5.0

I'm curious about this one. I've never seen another like it. Open box plenum with 2 level runners. That should make them equal length but you gotta wonder about distribution issues.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Weiand-7274-Pinto-intake-manifold-/261420426287?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item3cdddf242f&vxp=mtr
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jeremysdad

Quote from: Pinto5.0 on March 12, 2014, 03:39:56 PM
The bores are staggered but it shouldn't be an issue since I have 2 NOS 5200 Weber's to use on it. This is going on my 71 4-speed car with a mild cam & 4 into 1 header so I'm hoping for decent power & maybe 22 mpg. This will be my 1st 2.0L powered Pinto so it's going to be a quick learning curve. 

Honestly, I would love to buy that manifold from you. I didn't even know that a 2 barrel dual plane existed! :) You can have my stock one! :)

Pinto5.0

The bores are staggered but it shouldn't be an issue since I have 2 NOS 5200 Weber's to use on it. This is going on my 71 4-speed car with a mild cam & 4 into 1 header so I'm hoping for decent power & maybe 22 mpg. This will be my 1st 2.0L powered Pinto so it's going to be a quick learning curve. 
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jeremysdad

The manifold pictured in the first post should have been the stock manifold, instead of the single plane they come with.

Running the same carb as Scott (jetted back to how it came to me atm), on the stock single plane, and getting 19 mpg at best. I can see separating the barrels being beneficial to low-rpm throttle response and mileage.

My car is an automatic, not sure about Scott's.

The mounting boss for the carb on the Offy intake looks tall. Does that actually clear the hood?

74 PintoWagon

Very true, but for just going down the road it would work, wouldn't need a tall spacer 2" should clear the hood???..
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amc49

That would work, the ideal is not to be necking things down though and added height to intake that may not clear hood. Necking down is the same thing as going back to a 32/36 standard carb. Or lost the reason why you got the bigger carb to begin with. Actually a bit worse, no carb pulls as hard on the venturi with a similar sized choke placed below the carb itself. Why Nascar makes engines run restrictor plates. You always want the bore below carb to be same size or larger as carb base below throttle plates.........smaller is a sure power killer. The only small choke intended anywhere in an intake is the actual venturi itself, the angles both into and out of it (7 degree into and 22 out or somewhere close) are specifically chosen to recover most of the flow lost going through the venturi, you will not have that recovery process on a simple necking down of the hole further down. In short, it may restrict more than the carb venturi does and detract from the venturi effect itself. Not the hot setup for a bigger carb which needs all the signal it can get to begin with. You want the hole underneath carb to be as big as practical to overall flow so carb sees every bit of signal from engine it can as fast as possible. I myself like the open single oval bore rather than two small ones, it allows more intermix between bores and higher up to more evenly spread out the two mixture streams into each other. Despite all the things you do to get both bore flows the same mixture they always vary and better to mix them up earlier to nullify that effect. It leads to more even fuel distribution among all cylinders. That Offy manifold though pretty much stops all that, but picks back up where it left off by remixing the two streams further down in head ports. Arguable but it seems to work. I don't like the flow lost from the divider running down middle of all ports. It alone costs its area in more mixture that could have gone to engine. The effect will be pretty nominal on a pretty much stock engine though.

The whole split port idea there is negated by the use of a 1/1 carb, it was intended for progressive type carb. With both bores open at same time no need for the port dividers................manifold was designed to run one bore open only most of the time.

74 PintoWagon

Bore shouldn't be a problem just make a spacer and blend it to the bore sizes.
Art
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amc49

The 38/38 will work, just whether it opens butterfly without hitting smaller bore. It may well do it. I myself prefer equal venturis/throttles to have equal bores in manifold myself. I/m sure a 38/38 worked out would be gangbusters. The 38 if like most manufacturers refers to the choke portion of the carb, or the venturi diameter itself, not the actual choke WE here in the states talk about.

Weber, Holley, Motorcraft, Rochester, Hitachi, etc. they are all the same to me, the internal design features are what set them apart. I have no trouble understanding what every little hole and passage does in pretty much every carb made. And if not, I can figure it out in maybe 60 seconds by tracing the circuit to see what it does.

Pinto5.0

Quote from: pintosopher on March 10, 2014, 07:32:58 PM

We should all be so lucky to understand CARBs and the War on Carbs by C.A.R.B. (The smog gods in Sacto : the California Air Resources Board, soon to be monitoring Human flatulence)

Pintosopher, one venturi away  from a total Standoff! ??? ;)

Given adequate time I'm sure they will assess a "gas" tax on all flatus expelling Americans....
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Pintosopher

Quote from: dick1172762 on March 10, 2014, 04:02:35 PM
If it doesn't fit, it would be an easy fix. I had a 40/40 on a stock intake, so it can be done.

I've had a Weber 38 DGAS on a slightly massaged stock ford 2.0 EAO manifold. I made my own aluminum cable mount , and removed the auto choke and made blanking plate and set up with manual choke. With a Redline/ K&N filter assy it just cleared the hood. This is the Best 2bbl for a bolt on application, and it requires little air correction for a small flat spot off idle.  This put the Punch back in the stock 2.0L engine and with 4 into 1 headers, it built torque right now!
Other setups may work as well, but a weber 40/40 2bbl is best for racing only, Per Dave Vizard book on 2.0 Pinto engine mods
We should all be so lucky to understand CARBs and the War on Carbs by C.A.R.B. (The smog gods in Sacto : the California Air Resources Board, soon to be monitoring Human flatulence)

Pintosopher, one venturi away  from a total Standoff! ??? ;)
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

Pinto5.0

Quote from: amc49 on March 10, 2014, 03:12:40 AM
38/38 may not fit there, from where I'm sittin' the carb bores appear to be staggered in size.

My gf texted me that it arrived today. I'll check it out better but I believe the bores are staggered.
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dick1172762

If it doesn't fit, it would be an easy fix. I had a 40/40 on a stock intake, so it can be done.
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Scott Hamilton

They are different sizes... AMC, 38/38 refers to a carb but I'm not well versed here-  I have a webber on mine, Here is the link describing the carb I'm running...  If you see any issues, I'm all ears...

http://www.fordpinto.com/pinto-faq/5200-to-webber-conversion/msg139495/#msg139495

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74 PintoWagon

Kinda looks different size???, or it could be just the angle of the pic??..
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amc49

38/38 may not fit there, from where I'm sittin' the carb bores appear to be staggered in size.

Pinto5.0

Quote from: dick1172762 on March 08, 2014, 05:38:22 PM
Stock 2.0 intake is one of the best stock intake ever made. Keep what you've got and put a 38/38 Weber on it and enjoy.

The engine came with an Offy 4-bbl intake. I didn't have a stock intake to run.
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dick1172762

Stock 2.0 intake is one of the best stock intake ever made. Keep what you've got and put a 38/38 Weber on it and enjoy.
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Scott Hamilton

I'm getting 24.6 mpg without the header... Running the 93 octane.. Wondering if this will get me any more- don't know...



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Pinto5.0

Quote from: Scott Hamilton on March 08, 2014, 11:01:49 AM
I have run this intake for years, I now have a Webber carb on it- Honestly I can't say I saw any 'improvement' over stock, but it runs great with it. I bought a header from Bill recently and am working today to install- I've heard that this intake w/header will improve gas mileage and that's what I'm after... :)

That's good to hear. I was going to run the 4-bbl. intake with a carb adapter to put a 2-bbl. on it but this is easier. I'd like to get it polished along with the valve cover I just bought. If I was smart I'd send the vintage header out to get coated inside & out while I was making things pretty. I'm hoping to get 25 mpg out of the 71 with the 2.0L so if this helps in that regard I wont complain.
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Scott Hamilton

I have run this intake for years, I now have a Webber carb on it- Honestly I can't say I saw any 'improvement' over stock, but it runs great with it. I bought a header from Bill recently and am working today to install- I've heard that this intake w/header will improve gas mileage and that's what I'm after... :)
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amc49


Pinto5.0

I know the 4 barrel versions are useless & kill low end torque but has anyone tried the 2 barrel version before? I got it for about the price of a stock 2.0 intake & since the engine I need it for didn't come with an intake I figure I have nothing to lose.

The engine it's going on has a mild cam & a header but is otherwise stock. I have an NOS 5200 carb to run on it.

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