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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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77pintocw

Hey CONSFIRE:

That's probably what I will eventually do once I can find someone to help me with my project.

Thanks for the positive input!   ;D

77pintocw
1977, Pinto Cruising Wagon, White with Blue Graphics

CONSFIRE

77PINTOCW      WHAT YOU DO WITH THE CAR IS YOUR DECISION, BUT THERE ARE NOT MANY WAGONS LIKE YOURS LEFT. A MILD RESTOATION IS A GREAT IDEA,LEAVING IT AS STOCK AS POSSIBLE BUT PERSONAL TOUCHES TO SUIT YOUR OWN TASTE. MY OWN CAR IS A '71 THAT IS BONE STOCK FROM THE DEALER, BUT THEY HAD IT UNDERCOATED, SO THAT'S COMING OFF AND I'LL DETAIL THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT AND THAT'S AS FAR AS I'M GOING WITH IT. GOOD LUCK WIT YOUR PROJECT. AND HAVE A PINTO DAY.  CONSFIRE

77pintocw

Hi renton481:

I totally agree!

Cheers!

77pintocw
1977, Pinto Cruising Wagon, White with Blue Graphics

renton481

I'd say whatever you do with your Pinto is fine as long as you're able to keep it on the road, keep it from rusting away.

Just don't do like my dad did with his '50 Ford -- he liked the car too much to let it go, but was too cheap to fix it up, or keep it repaired and maintained -- so there it sat, turning into a pile of rust.

77pintocw

Hey Folks:

Thanks for all of the input.  It has been very helpful.  Finally got around and posted a few
pics of my Pinto.  They are posted under "Your Pintos, Sedans, Runabouts, & Wagons".

77pintocw
1977, Pinto Cruising Wagon, White with Blue Graphics

sagesunrise

Wow Dirt Track!! Creative, Unique, Powerful...and comfortable!
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

dirt track demon

I like sage's point about restoring a pinto to reflect your personality.  That's one of the best ideas I have heard.  Some cars were meant to be all original, but the pinto isnt one of them.  I dont see them becoming 50,000 collectors items, either.  I have been considering tackling the cool street rod project soon. And I have had a million ideas running thru my head.  But after reading Sage's advice about the whole personality issue, I am seriously considering........... well I might as well voice it,  A PINTO !!!CHOPPER!!!  TRIKE.

  I am thinking of using the v-6 and c-4 and all the goodies from racer walsh that I aint allowed to use at the track.  The seat would sit where the motor used to be. Then I could use the fenders for armrests!!  I still have some design stuff to work out in my head and on paper, but I think im going to do it.  Then I would have my streetrod, my pinto and my motorcycle all in one.
Favorite place to race:on the xbox

Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

sagesunrise

Keep lookin' 77.  There has to be a shop in your area somewhere.  May have to travel a few hours, but it will probably be worth it.  My restoration (not including the interior) was a heck of a lot less than the cost of a Ford Focus.  Ford Focus' are ugly!  Think Pinto!!  :D
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

Pintony

Be original!
Make your own F.C.W.
I think the focus comes in SILVER! ;D
From Pintony

77pintocw

Hi Pintony:

I would only consider a Ford Focus if Ford would come out with a Ford Focus Cruzin Wagon.
It would be nice if they did it starting 2007, thirty years after introducing the Ford Pinto Cruzin Wagon.
Knowing Ford, this is only a dream!

77pintocw

1977, Pinto Cruising Wagon, White with Blue Graphics

Pintony

Hey 77pintocw,
Go buy this 2001 focus wagon and you will have 9000.00 left to spend on your Cruzin Wagon. ;D

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31835&item=4559397110&rd=1

From Pintony

77pintocw

Hi sagesunrise:

Saw those old pics, not a pretty sight.  Can’t wait to see the “new” Pinto.  Yeah, too bad I am not closer to your auto shop, no one around here wants to do Pintos.

77pintocw
1977, Pinto Cruising Wagon, White with Blue Graphics

77pintocw

Hi 79panel:

Thank you for sharing your thoughts.  I totally agree with what you have said.  Money is not the issue.  Trying to find someone that will do the job professionally, takes pride and stands behind their work is the difficulty.  As you said, where can you get a totally new car for $10-15K like a Pinto CW?  I’ve had my Pinto since 1978 and obviously will keep it until …  I will takes some pics this weekend and let you all see what my CW looks like today.

77pintocw

PS:  My wife says I can go down and get a new Ford Focus Wagon for $15K, what an attitude! ;D
1977, Pinto Cruising Wagon, White with Blue Graphics

sagesunrise

I don't want to use up 77's thread with my pinto situation, but if you would like to check out the thread titled "Hello Pinto Lovers" you will see some interesting photos of my project (It is under General Pinto Talk even though I should have put it under Your Projects).  I will have some updated pics posted this weekend-have done lots to it.

77, I wish you were not so far away because the shop I took her to, Extreme Auto in Shelton WA, is THE BEST BY FAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No "why do you want to spend this money on that car?" Just a "Yes, we can do it"  and excellent customer service all the way around.  To me, and to my pinto.
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

wagonmaster

Hi 77pintocw,
I'm of the restore mindset. If the car was pristine, I would detail it and leave it alone, but from what you have said, it is not. The ravages of time and exposure to the elements have taken their toll. One consideration for duplicating the graphics would be to have them painted on. You could take numerous photos and dimensions and have them painted on. By using a clear coat over them, they would last longer than the tape graphics with proper care and would be easier to redo, should that time ever come. I would make sure to keep a record of the exact colors used by the painter. There are now parts being reproduced today that weren't available just a year or two ago, such as some of the weatherstrips. Carpeting is readily available, even though the cargo area would have to be custom done. Headliners are available in the original fabric pattern and colors. Most any suspension component you could want is available thanks to the proliferic use of the Pinto/Mstg II suspension on almost anything! Many, many parts can be found on eBay if you're willing to take the time to look and search for them. If done properly, a restoration can make your baby look like new again! I think another area that people lose sight of is trying to justify the cost. If you like the car, plan on keeping it at least five years, and are going to invest $10K-$15K on a restoration (rebuilt engine, trans, rearend; fresh paint, rebuilt suspension and brakes, redoing the interior, replacing weatherstrips, etc), what new car today would you be happy with say spending only $10K-$15K on. I'd say the selection is very limited! But by restoring your car, especially the CW, you end up with a very unique vehicle that you don't see on every street corner and it looks new and SHINEY again!! Sounds good to me!!
Brien - wagonmaster
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'85 LTD Squire wagon

pinto4you2003

Hey Tiffany,
Send me a picture of your car.  It sounds like it is really sweet (sick).   

77pintocw

Hey sagesunrise:

You have been very helpful.  I am truly sorry to hear about the accident and hope you were not hurt in anyway.    My Pinto also has been the most reliable car I have ever owned.  It has only failed me three times, once for bad gas, once for a dead battery and then when the timing belt broke.  Recently, my local Ford dealership badly damaged and threw away many engine parts of my Pinto and it just devastated me how someone could do such a thing my car when I had taken such care of it since 1978.  We do have a local auto shop that could do a fantastic job with my Pinto.  Actually, it is the same auto shop that did Paul Harvey’s old car.  I have talked to them several times and they tell me that the wait time now is 3 years and they just don’t need another job, especially a Pinto.  They don’t know why if I want to spend that kind of money I don’t invest it into something that has real value.  As you pointed out, people just don’t understand how we love our Pintos!  We Pinto lovers are an interesting breed.  I too get many looks and smiles when I drive my wagon and it is really fun to drive.

Thanks again for the constructive input and yes I saw that we have the same Bday.  ;D

Cheers!

77pintocw

PS:  Got any pics of your "new" Pinto that you could post?
1977, Pinto Cruising Wagon, White with Blue Graphics

sagesunrise

Hey 77, you and I have the same bday.  Funny!
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

sagesunrise

Hey 77,

I have had my pinto going on 20 years now. I built it in high school and maintained it up til 2001 when it was rear-ended and totaled. I never really had much money, so I just worked on it here and there (before the wreck) and it was a very reliable car, but it was always in poor condition (body and interior). I kept the undercarriage and motor in great condition. I had always had this dream of having a head turner, but could never afford it. Now that I have a decent income, after the wreck I found a shop that was willing to do the work. I didn't care what it cost-it was time for my dream to come true. Everyone always asks me why I put so much money into a pinto and I say, "who cares about the money, I feel like a million bucks when I am in that car!!". And even my friends that are Chevy lovers say that it turned out very beautiful. This January it went into the shop. I just got it back on 6/15. I cannot explain the feeling I have driving the car. So many folks stop to ask about it and they look it over real well and say how nice it looks (even several comments on my fordpinto.com sticker!) When I pass folks on the road, they always smile when they see the pinto. I agree with the previous posts that a customized pinto turns more heads than a stock pinto. My pinto is sleek and sexy and it really looks nice. If you want to spend a little money for a long time, then I say conserve it. If you want to spend a lot all at once, then go for the restore. If you have ideas for your pinto that go against the stock pinto, then why not go for it? You are only limited by your imagination. You can make your car a reflection of you. I love driving my pinto everywhere!! If you feel for your car the way I feel for mine, why not make it look hot? After all, it has been reliable to you for so many years. Before the wreck, I had taken my pinto to two collision repair shops. They both showed me the door, obviously just in it for insurance money. I found a shop that consisted of true professionals willing to take on something new-a challenge.  I told them what I had and what I wanted and they said they could do it. My shop never restored a pinto before mine and they stood behind their work. They told me they enjoyed the project. There are shops out there, you just need to stop in and pay them a visit. Best of luck!
Tiffany
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

77pintocw

Hey pinto4you2003:

Good input!  You made some really excellent points.  I greatly appreciate your honest opinion.
So, did you get them to sign the photo rights to take a pic of your Pinto?   ;D

Thanks again!

77pintocw
1977, Pinto Cruising Wagon, White with Blue Graphics

pinto4you2003

In my opinion, I'd do whatever it took to keep it running well and keep it looking nice.  Like CHEAPRACER said, Pintos will never command big dollars even if it stayed all original stock like other muscle cars.  I think people are more impressed with a nice looking Pinto than an original stock Pinto that has 30 year old carpet and worn seats. 

My '77 Hatchback has the stock engine, but I repainted the exterior, put 14 inch chrome rims on it with 245R14 tires, new leaf springs that raised the back 4 inches, and it looks sweet.  I turn more heads with that car than anything.  Just last weekend, I was driving south on State Rt 87 about 10pm when a car pulled up next to me, slowed down to keep pace, and the passenger in teh car took a flash photo of my car while I was driving it!  Good luck. 

77pintocw

Hey CHEAPRACER:

Thanks for the input, I'm looking for all different opinions.

Cheers!

77pintocw

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1977, Pinto Cruising Wagon, White with Blue Graphics

CHEAPRACER

My opinion would be to build it as you please. These are not like factory Shelby's or Yenco's or anything else highly collectable. I think"my" car looks it's best with a hood scoop, Weld Wheels and a turbo motor. It fits my personality as well (cheap bastard that likes to go fast hence the $300 initial car purchase) But I still like the Pinto as a stock car.....it just needed a little tweek.

Only an opinion.
Cheapracer is my personality but you can call me Jim '74 Pinto, stock 2.3 turbo, LA3, T-5, 8" 3:55 posi, Former (hot) cars: '71 383 Cuda, 67 440 Cuda, '73 340 Dart, '72 396 Vega, '72 327 El Camino, '84 SVO, '88 LX 5.0

77pintocw

Hi Folks:

I would like to hear ya’lls opinion on the following topic.  I have a 77 Pinto Cruise Wagon that I bought in 1978.  It is in very good condition but not pristine like some of the Pintos I have seen.  I have done my best to conserve it in its original condition.  However, some parts and components are obviously showing their age.  For example, the decals on the back panels have little cracks throughout.  The rug on the passenger side is a little worn, the engine burns a little oil and things like that.

So the question, is it better to restore it completely or just conserve it in its present condition?  I do not want to modify it in any way and want to keep it in factory like condition (either conserved or restored).  I understand that some Pintos have been kept in garages their entire life and not used much, and these should never be restored, but I have driven my Pinto every day since 1978. 

In addition, if I decide to restore it back to “like new condition” does anyone professionally restore Pintos or do you know of anyone that restores Pintos?

I really appreciate your opinions on this issue.

77pintocw
1977, Pinto Cruising Wagon, White with Blue Graphics