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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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I noticed my 2.0 1971 Pinto was a tooth off when I  was tinker with it, So I set the belt right. power seems about the same. ???
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Art
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dick1172762

Pipe plug that size requires a bigger hole. I've drilled them out for a tap, but that's work. Driving in a plug is EASY.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

74 PintoWagon

Art
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amc49

Don't have drill index handy but that hole size says probably very easy to tap hole for a 1/4" hole to simply screw in a like allen setscrew glued with silicone and removeable if necessary.

74 PintoWagon

Yeah, should be a quick fix guess I'll start looking for a header.
Art
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dick1172762

Best I can recall, is the ports are .223 dia. Easy if you have a lathe. Metric I'm sure. Go for it.
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74 PintoWagon

I'm guessing they would be metric maybe?, guess just about any round stock will work though just throw it up in the lathe and turn it down to size, I done away with all that smog crap already, only thing left is the EGR plate which I'm gonna make an adapter to replace it.
Art
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dick1172762

Finding the right size might be hard. Every hardware store I was ever in, had what was called, drill rod in ever size known. You might have to file it down, but you only need a piece 2" long. File it to fit, drive it in, cut off what sticks out and your done. They can't come out, and if they leak a little, they will fill up with carbon. The header gasket will seal them too. Use a gasket for a mid 80's Mustang 2.3L. It will cover the port too. This will get rid of the ERG too and help your gas mileage. Easy fix.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

74 PintoWagon

I was wondering if a press plug could be used, makes it easier yet.
Art
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dick1172762

Holes in the head are an easy fix. I've taped and screwed in pipe plugs, used ball bearings, and the easy way is too just drive a plug(not a spark plug) into the hole. Even a 1/4"deep is plenty because once the header is on, the plugs can't come out and they can't go in because of the way the hole is made. Easy fix because the manifold will be off to put on your new Ranger header. Way to go.
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74 PintoWagon

Quote from: dick1172762 on November 14, 2013, 03:03:11 PM
Look on craigslist, under parting out(cars & trucks). Atso look under Rangers(for sale). Look for ones with way to low a price, like $300. Some of those are junk or not running and will sell parts sometimes. Cheaper that way too.
Thanks, I'll give that a shot.
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74 PintoWagon

Quote from: bbobcat75 on November 14, 2013, 03:25:06 PM
FORD RANGER HEADERS WORK GREAT BUT PINTO HEADS NEED TO BE TAPPED AND FILL THE EGR PORTS OR YOU WILL HAVE A MAJOR EXHAUST LEAK!!

FOUND OUT THE HARD WAY THOUGHT MINE WHERE PLUGGED UP TILL I HIT 3RD GEAR ON THE ROAD!!!

GOOD LUCK DOING IT IN THE CAR WAY EASIER WITH HEAD OFF!!!


hanks, I'll make a note of that.
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bbobcat75

FORD RANGER HEADERS WORK GREAT BUT PINTO HEADS NEED TO BE TAPPED AND FILL THE EGR PORTS OR YOU WILL HAVE A MAJOR EXHAUST LEAK!!

FOUND OUT THE HARD WAY THOUGHT MINE WHERE PLUGGED UP TILL I HIT 3RD GEAR ON THE ROAD!!!

GOOD LUCK DOING IT IN THE CAR WAY EASIER WITH HEAD OFF!!!

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dick1172762

Look on craigslist, under parting out(cars & trucks). Atso look under Rangers(for sale). Look for ones with way to low a price, like $300. Some of those are junk or not running and will sell parts sometimes. Cheaper that way too.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

74 PintoWagon

Quote from: dick1172762 on November 14, 2013, 01:26:14 PM
Ever junk yard has many. I'm saving the one I have left for my next Pinto(#17). One other thing is, the header really helps clean-up the clutter under the hood. Make sure the battery is shielded like it came from the factory. Ever stock, the battery will get hot with out the shield. I sand blast all my headers(Rangers), pant them with VHT, and bake them in the wife's oven at as high a temp it will go for 4 hours or so. They come out looking great and look even better when installed. After installing it, I fire the motor up and run or drive for 30"or so. Well worth the trouble. 2" pipe all the way out. You may not smoke the tires, but YOU will like it. If you do like I do, and run the pipe out in front of back tire, you can do it all at home and save big $$$$. 2"ID glass pack in the drive shaft tunnel and your done. Hope this helps.
Thanks Dick, not worried about smoking tires with this one wife's not into that,lol. I'll see if I can find one local not much for a junkyard here, I have the factory battery shield so problem there, should be an easy setup to build.
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

dick1172762

Ever junk yard has many. I'm saving the one I have left for my next Pinto(#17). One other thing is, the header really helps clean-up the clutter under the hood. Make sure the battery is shielded like it came from the factory. Ever stock, the battery will get hot with out the shield. I sand blast all my headers(Rangers), pant them with VHT, and bake them in the wife's oven at as high a temp it will go for 4 hours or so. They come out looking great and look even better when installed. After installing it, I fire the motor up and run or drive for 30"or so. Well worth the trouble. 2" pipe all the way out. You may not smoke the tires, but YOU will like it. If you do like I do, and run the pipe out in front of back tire, you can do it all at home and save big $$$$. 2"ID glass pack in the drive shaft tunnel and your done. Hope this helps.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

74 PintoWagon

Quote from: dick1172762 on November 14, 2013, 09:46:49 AM
The junk yards around here(NW AR)are full of them. Who's going to buy them. Ranger owners already have them. That leaves us guys. I've won quite a few races in Autocross and Road Racing  with a Ranger header. Been the year end champ in both too. And you don't have to worry about dragging it on a lowered Pinto. I love them as you can tell. Every one needs to understand that a 2300 L motor is really a tractor motor, not 10000 rpm ricer. IT'S BUILT FOR TORQUE!!!! Nothing  else. Use it for that and you'll love it.
Hey Dick, you wouldn't happen to have an extra one laying around would ya??..
Art
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dick1172762

Quote from: 71pintoracer on November 13, 2013, 12:26:17 PM
All good and valid points Dick. I guess it's better than a cracked stock manifold for the weight savings if nothing else. But a header? Have you ever flow tested one? hahahahha! But I digress. I didn't realize they were so plentiful now. And cheap. :)
The junk yards around here(NW AR)are full of them. Who's going to buy them. Ranger owners already have them. That leaves us guys. I've won quite a few races in Autocross and Road Racing  with a Ranger header. Been the year end champ in both too. And you don't have to worry about dragging it on a lowered Pinto. I love them as you can tell. Every one needs to understand that a 2300 L motor is really a tractor motor, not 10000 rpm ricer. IT'S BUILT FOR TORQUE!!!! Nothing  else. Use it for that and you'll love it.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

74 PintoWagon

I was wondering about the dirt factor too, thought about cutting the top section off and keep the bottom for the pointer but I think I'll just leave it alone, does look better without it though.
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

amc49

I ran with no timing cover for a good while, after doing it longterm the pulleys will round off from dust wearing parts. If doing it again I would be using a cover, it helps seals last longer as well. It did make for questions though and looked neat. And could change a belt in maybe five minutes.

74 PintoWagon

Thanks guys, looks like the Ranger header is the way to go then, this is the wife's car and all she cares about is mileage no hot rodding, be a miracle if rpm's reach 3000, lol..
Art
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71pintoracer

All good and valid points Dick. I guess it's better than a cracked stock manifold for the weight savings if nothing else. But a header? Have you ever flow tested one? hahahahha! But I digress. I didn't realize they were so plentiful now. And cheap. :)
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

dick1172762

Theirs not a thing wrong with a Ranger header!!!! First of all, their stainless steel, second of all, they FIT, third, their CHEAP, forth, they will out last the car. Only thing you need to do is remove the stands off  that allow Ford to use the same long bolts that the used on a cast iron manifold. Take them off and use short bolts. Looks much better! Most Pintos I've seen have WAY too big a pipe running off the header. Fine if you take it to 6000 rpm each time you shift, but no good when you leave a stop light at 1500 rpm. 2" pipe is all you need on a street driven Pinto. Cheap and many mufflers to pick from. And the junk yards are FULL of them at $30 to $50 each. Get the down pipe when you can, to use on your car. And best of all, you will not look and sound like a "RICER". And a Ranger header will fit in my wife's oven, so I can paint it with VHS and bake it at 400 degs to cure it. All in all, a winner!
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

74 PintoWagon

Quote from: 71pintoracer on November 12, 2013, 05:31:50 PM
(sigh......) Spend your hard earned money on a crappy Ranger header.
I was thinking of the Ranger header heard they worked?, my stock manifold has a crack and I know it's gonna have to be replaced pretty soon, what would you recommend?.. Thanks..
Art
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71pintoracer

Quote from: amc49 on November 11, 2013, 11:09:56 PM


If you have asymmetrical lobe timings that linked earlier post method will not work, it is really the backyard way anyway.
(sigh......) I tried to make it as clear as possible. Maybe I didn't. If you have a STOCK CAM, this will get your cam timing pretty damn close. If you have a PERFORMANCE CAM you should have used the cam card, dial indicator and degree wheel in the first place. The power gain from say a 2.3 automatic with a STOCK CAM that is 6* retarded to 2* advanced is unreal. Been there done that. Many times. The people that I've done this for are amazed. It's simple, easy, cheap & doesn't take much time to do. And you can FEEL THE DIFFERENCE. So if you are working in the backyard, give it a try. Or not. Spend your hard earned money on a crappy Ranger header (? yea right) expensive intakes and big carb that does nothing but run rich and cut your gas mileage in half. Whatever. I tried.
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Pintosopher

Quote from: Wittsend on November 12, 2013, 11:53:52 AM
"O so cool when "ricers" look under your hood, (just after you smoked them at the local autocross)."

I wonder in Japan if they call us "Wheaters" or "Corners?"  Just thinking.

Tom
Since you "smoked " 'em at an Autocross, I would think we're Just "Corners"  ???  Oh , the good old day's in the 80's Bay area pylon scene: Mike Stevens in his CSP Pinto was a real threat. And his Pro Solo launches were a work of Art. I hope he's still around and keeping compact Fords running.
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

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Wittsend

"O so cool when "ricers" look under your hood, (just after you smoked them at the local autocross)."

I wonder in Japan if they call us "Wheaters" or "Corners?"  Just thinking.

Tom

dick1172762

Late model Rangers use both round tooth pulleys and belts. Plus they are wider and made out of better stuff. This is what all the smart racers use now. You have to use all the Ranger parts to make it work. And no, it will not fit under you stock timing cover! I guess you could use the Ranger cover maybe. Or no cover at all like I do. So much easy'r to work on and O so cool when "ricers" look under your hood, (just after you smoked them at the local autocross).
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

74 PintoWagon

Didn't know they made them rounded mine are square, Gates always been the best and I probably should change mine out again because this one I got from the Zone will just not time right, but then again the tab and dampener could be off too, gonna have to find absolute TDC first and see where I'm at, guess I'll dig out an old spark plug and make a piston stop.
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.