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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Blue79Pinto

I also am having this problem.  The battery in the car is brand new.  I have replaced the voltage regulator as of two years ago.  I never have replaced the alternator though.  At idle the brand new batter reads 11.5v to 12v depending.  Is this a sign of a bad alternator?  I have put a modern stereo which may be part of the drain, but I am going to equip it with a toggle switch to completely turn it off so it cannot get power when the car is on.  By the way forgot to mention this brand new battery died overnight while in the car.  And after only a few hours of being in it after being charged and run it went down to 10.5V. Any help would be much appreciated. 

ToniJ1960

 With that 1n4004 in there reverse biased it was either a heckuva high transient or a reverse polarity spike that blew it in half :(

oldkayaker

According to the 78 EVTM, the yellow wire from the capacitor connector gets connected to the regulator "A" (armature) terminal.  The yellow wire is suppose to have some white dashes on it, may be faded.  The EVTM labels the capacitor for radio noise suppression, but should provide some protection for the regulator too.
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

ToniJ1960

 I found a diode (1n4004) in the old regulator that was broke in half. Im thinking since the anode was ground its for spike protection. Probably flyback voltagse created by shutting off current to the field coil.

Now, theres a capacitor or condensor if you prefer, that goes on the fender wall next to the voltage regulator. It has a connecor on it, black wire from the capacitor, and yellow on the other end of the connector. The yellow wire is off and I dont know where it goes to. Im afraid that could be why that diode got blasted, if the capacitor is supposed to absorb some of that spike. Where does the other end go to?

r4pinto

While the battery seems to be holding a charge doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't hurt or starting to go bad. Best to find out now while it's fully charged if it is bad or not. It's free to have checked & will also eliminate the possibility of the battery being a cause.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

ToniJ1960

 No I just had it on the charger I have and it seemed fine then I let it sit all night before I took it out it still had a good charge then.

I just was dumb and put a voltage regulator in that I had kept and it was probably bad too. I opened up this one and found a burned  out diode and a shorted device that looks like a to220 transistor, but after about an hour of googling (its house marked) I found out its a ST Microdevices regulator IC not a transistor. Nowhere to buy them I can find ( LF40C) so going to OReilly I guess and buy another cheapo regulator.

r4pinto

Have you had the battery tested?
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

ToniJ1960

 The battery is about 2.5 years old right on the border I guess for bateries these days.

I had thought everything was ok, the battery didnt drop at all overnight in the house, its not really t hat cold outside, and I stopped the current drain that WAS making an 1157 light in series with one battery cable.

Well its down again though. Going to recharge i tonight leave it in the car outside under simlar weather and see what it looks like in  the morning. If the battery stays charged sitting under the hood disconnected, then I guess I can try a smaller bulb or a small resistor and a volt meter to see just what kind of ambient current is there. Maybe it fooled me yesterday and my test bulb wasnt making contact when the light went out.

Back to square one.

wbacon8780

As blupinto said, How old is your battery?

blupinto

One can never have too many Pintos!

ToniJ1960

 I tried googling for over an hour and cant find a schematic of the actual voltage regulator. I guess I can open the old one and try t o draw a schematic myself.

r4pinto

The schematic I have is of the wiring to the voltage regulator from a 1978 Ford Pinto wiring book.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

ToniJ1960

 Thanks Matt I went ahead and bought a new voltage regulator. My test bulb 1157 came on bright before and now its off. So I hope thats all it is.

I have a wiring diagram for all years of Pintos in a Mitchel DVD. I really want just the actual schematic of the voltage regulator itself. This is probably the third one I had to change in this car, over 26 years. I guess thats not bad,but it still seems a solid state device should last longer than that.

If you have a schematic for the voltage regulator itself, I would really appreciate it.

r4pinto

I have a 1978 electrical schematic book at home. When I get home I'll go ahead & scan the page for you. PM me your email & I'll send it directly
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

ToniJ1960

 Thanks the current finally dropped on the charger last night around 1 am, and today the battery still shows over 12.8 the caps are back on and ready to take it back out to the car. The stereo is still unplugged from when I first suspected it to be the cause.

Im going to connect the positive cable to the battery and an old 1157 between the negative post and ground cable and see if it lights or glows. If it does then disconnect the regulator and see if it quits.

Does anyone have a schematic of the voltage regulator? I never have seen one last very long Im tempted to try to repair it. I imagine I have some suitable transistors around somewhere.

r4pinto

Quote from: Pinto5.0 on March 20, 2013, 09:40:34 AM
If you do the test checking for spark in the dark make sure your doors are closed(dome lite) & the stereo memory wire is unplugged.

I've also had brand new batteries crap out in under 2 years

To add on that make sure you put the caps back on the battery before reconnecting. One spark with the caps off can cause an explosive situation.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Pinto5.0

If you do the test checking for spark in the dark make sure your doors are closed(dome lite) & the stereo memory wire is unplugged.

I've also had brand new batteries crap out in under 2 years
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'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
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ToniJ1960

 And I do have a more modern stereo installed I did it myself. The first time it went dead I unplugged it in case thats what it was. I had one one time that would turn itself on somehow it was possessed.

ToniJ1960

 I could check the cables by reading voltage across them with some lights or whatever on I guess.

The battery is one you can take trhe caps off I have them off while its charging and the cells are all at the same level.I havent added anything.

But its been on t he charger 4 or 5 hours now and its still drawing 8 amps same as when I first put it on it.

D.R.Ball

Those battery cables do not last long either....Change them when you change your battery. Most of the aftermarket ones (Autozone etc) are crap and do not fit right Have done the test where the engine is running and then disconnect the positive terminal cable( It should ? keep running. Do you have an aftermarket radio installed or had any other work done on the wiring......These days  people do not know how to work on "simple " cars even when they are "pros" at installing stereos etc.You have a voltage drop, do an hour by hour check...Is the battery sealed or the kind that you can add water to ? Do not use tap water to service a battery use non mineral water in bottles....

ToniJ1960

 Well one cable was loose so I took it off and cleaned it and put it back on tighter.I should probably go ahead and do the other one before I put the battery back in. The negative is pretty new but I shjould check both ends on them anyway. It did start again a few times after just getting a jump start after driving here and there, I really think its charging. After I shut the engine off yesterday the battery voltage was about 12.7 or 12.8 and an hour or two later it was 12.3 seemed kind of normal I shouldve checked it again at least one more time.

HOSS429

hook the battery cable up in total darkness and watch for a spark .. that would mean a short somewhere .. and a bad connection will allow a fresh battery a  full 12 volts to start the car a few times yet not allow a smaller charging voltage to pass and refresh it .

blupinto

How old is the battery? I learned the hard way this winter that batteries seem to only be good for 4 or 5 years anymore.  My battery was ok for driving but the next day it would let me attempt to start the car before it was kaput. I had to replace 3 batteries! They're not cheap, either! Good luck!

One can never have too many Pintos!

ToniJ1960

 That makes sense. Its on the charger now I should know later if it takes a good charge and stays charged. Its drawing 8 amps so I know it got drained pretty far.

I dont gues it would hurt to try unplugging the voltage regulator after I put the battery back  in and see if theres any parasitic drain. First thing I should check i s my brake lights a few years ago I had a problem with the new switch sticking.

r4pinto

Quote from: Pinto5.0 on March 19, 2013, 05:46:28 PM
Have Autozone load test your battery. That will also check alternator & regulator at the same time.
Might not also be a bad idea to take the battery & alternator off the car & have them tested off the car if it is possible to do that. One easy thing to look for on the voltage regulator is feel it with the car off after it has sat for a while. It shouldn't be warm. Had one go bad on a 78 I had I the regulator was rather warm to the touch even though the car hadn't been run for a while.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Pinto5.0

Have Autozone load test your battery. That will also check alternator & regulator at the same time.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

ToniJ1960

 The battery in my 78 Pinto is going ded over night the last few days. It hasnt been near as could as it was it doesnt seem like the right time for it to g oout but who knows my cars mad at me one thing after another.

It charges up holds a charge to drive around, one day we push started it and it charged up enough to start again a few times. Im not sure if its the battery or something draining it so Im charging it inside and when I take it to the car again I can try to see if theres any drain on it when I put it in.

Since it does get a charge and hold it at least for a while,Im not suspecting the alternator. Maybe the battery, or one time I had a battery keep getting drained and it was a bad voltage regulator doing it.

Does anyone know a good test to see if it is the regulator?