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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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J.D. LARAMEE

Actually im from central Il. but il get over there again and maybe we all can get together then. I  was in kinda of in a hurry to get home. car didnt run as well after id made some changes so it  was disapointing. ,J.D.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e-kxluQL

pintoman

Hey J D if you are from the central Ohio area there is a car show this Sunday.I'll be there with a couple of more Pinto lovers.If you can make it let me know and i will give you directions.Pintoman.
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J.D. LARAMEE

 Hey guys, Some one said something about this to one of my guys at the track, but i wasnt sure were to go. We got beat the second round so i maight have made it, it would have been a little late though. o well see ya next time., J.D. Laramee
Home of the worlds fastest  pinto's
1977 Full weight 4cyl. Street pinto Blow thru c-s carb.
60ft 1.31
1/8 5.77 @ 128
1/4 9.43@ 141.03
77 Chrome moly 4cyl. Race Pinto- Blowing thru 2 C-S Specialties Carbs.
60ft 1.19
1/8 5.26 @138 1/4 8.22 @ 161
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e-kxluQL

pintoman

Hey Matt.Sorry about the Monkey.We had three cars and 6 body's.One of the guys broke a timing belt on his way there,so he drove his wife's car.Had a bunch of folks come over and look and talk about about the Pinto's.Had some good food and talk about our cars.Party broke up early and we all departed.To bad you couldn't make it.Hope to see you sometime in the near future.Harley[Pintoman].
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r4pinto

Well, it's official. My luck with Pintos stink!!! I was about to get on the road with my Pinto to go to Steak & Shake for some Food & Pinto talk when it happened... I couldn't steer my Pinto. I got out of the car & looked under it to find the passenger side tie rod end has broken. I'm not too happy with it as now I have missed another meet, & what sux is this one was my idea, all because of a stinking part failure. I got the overfilled tranny back to normal, & the white walls back to white & the car was all in good shape to go, but apparently I just can't get this stinking monkey off my back. I have been working on trying to fix it all day, but the supid thing just won't come off the car. >:( >:( >:(
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
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r4pinto

Well, to those that will be at the Ohio Pinto meet, I look forward to seeing you there... Harley, thanx for keeping up on it. I sorta fell off the planet for a little bit, as I had some personal issues to take care of, but they're all done, so let the fun begin!!! :) :) :)

I'll see you guys at Quaker Steak around 5:00... I'll be there with Harold II, although she ain't gonna be too pretty...lol Lots needing done to her since i haven't really touched her in about a month. :embarassed:

I'll make sure to give her a good cleaning though, so she looks better
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

pintoman

OK all of you Ohio Pinto lovers.Here it is ,for every one who wants to bring there Pinto's out for an evening get together,we will meet Sunday Sept. 4th at Quaker Steak and Lube at the Polaris Parkway restaurant.It is on the north side of Columbus.Take 71 north till you get to Polaris Parkway and turn left,and those coming down from northern Ohio go south to Polaris.We will meet at 5 pm on Sunday.I hope we have a good turn out.It's not going to be fancy , just getting together have some food and talk Pinto's.
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UFOSteVieZ

I will probably be there, Scott, with a digital camera.  At leat, I am planning on going.  :)
Steve is no longer with us.

His posts & all information will be kept ONline as rememberance.

God Speed Steve!
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Scott Hamilton

You guys need to take pictures, lost of pictures for thouse of us who can't attend,
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

r4pinto

Yup, it's still goin to happen... Just needing an estimate on how many people will be there. As for time, I'd say around 5:00 sometime... If anyone else has an idea of a better time give a shout out.

At this point I just need a closer estimate of how many people will be there & what day on that weekend would be best so I can find out availability & such.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

pintoman

Hey Matt,are we still ago for the Ohio get together on labor day weekend.If we are what time do we want to meet up and were.From what i can tell there are about 28 Pinto lovers in Ohio that i know of.Besides my self i know of 6 Pinto lovers that will be there if we are still having it.
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pintoman

Come on all you Ohio Pinto lovers. Lets get together on labor day weekend.I know of eight Pinto lovers,including myself that will be there.I hope all of you other Ohio Pinto lovers will join us.It would be nice to have twelve or more Pintos at this get together.Bring your family and friends,it should be fun.
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pintoman

Quaker State sounds good to me.We can just sit around and bull s***.As far as doing something else we can play it by ear.
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r4pinto

yeah Harley, I sorta fell off the face of the earth for a while.. I was having to fix my Corolla after I hit a big curb & bent the hell outta the front suspension.... I did get the pinto on her first extended drive in 2 years, maybe longer... I worked at a garage sale this past weekend & drove from Reynoldsburg to Columbus about 2-3 miles away from Morse road...It drove really good..

The good news on the meet... Once I get an estimate on how many people & can go from there... I figure we'd be able to meet at quaker steak & lube at polaris, but not too sure what do do after.... I'm open to ideas.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

pintoman

Hey Matt nice to hear from you again.Besides myself i know of at least 5 other Pinto owners from the central Ohio area that will be there.All we need is a location and time so we can meet up.Hey Blue gold you don't need your pony just come on down and enjoy.
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BlueGoldPinto

i'd like too, but I'm always busy and I don't have insurance on BlueGoldPinto yet... :-\ :'(
My theory on the Gas Tank of the Ford Pinto:
If it ain't fixed, don't break it!! :)

r4pinto

C'mon Pinto Ohioans, come join the fun when it happens. I've been gone for a while & thought I'd see if anyone else is joining the fun. I just need to know how many will be there & any alternative ideas on what to do.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

pintoman

I 'm putting an invite to all the Pinto lovers in the states around 0hio to come an join us for the Ohio get-together.Pinto's rule!
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r4pinto

ok,

so right now it stands at

pintoman
68cyclone & grampa
& possibly quickrick.. he might be able to make it, might not... we'll see

anymore? I will be keeping track so when I make reservations at steak & shake I'll have an accurate number.. That'll be a while so anyone that wants to came, can just post here.

Also any other ideas for where to go or a second opinion is welcome to chime in.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

pintoman

Matt count me in,plus 68cyclone and grampa.We will be there.So thats at least 4 of us.
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pintoman

Hay 78pinto would gladly come up for the show but out of money and vacation time.
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r4pinto

ok all, are we set on the weekend of the september auto show? If steak & shake sounds like a good idea, then I gotta know how many people so when I make the reservation I can tell them.

Also, if anyone else has an idea of where they'd want to meet just give a shout out.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

78pinto

I think you should all get on the highway on the 18th & 19th of this month and Invade St. Thomas Ontario, Canada and come to the Autofest!
** Jeff (78Pinto) is Missing from us but will always be a part of our community- We miss you Jeff **

pintoman

Hay Matt seeing that it is your idea,how about setting things up with Quaker steak and every thing else well play by ear.
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r4pinto

Nah... I don't know where that is... I mean I only worked at the Polaris Discount Tire Company for 3 months & ate there with the guys after work...lol

Good food  & beer... what a better way to get to know each other.

I think  we could also go to magic mountain over there for  lazer tag or even the go karts.. we'd have to either not drink or go beofre eating though, as there's no driving the go karts after drinking.. either way it's cheap & alot of fun.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

pintoman

If you don't want to meet at the all ford show laber day weekend,how about still meeting in columbus at Quaker steak and lube at the polaris parkway on the north side of columbus ,still on that weekend ,say on that saterday about noon.We can then bullsh*t and eat.I know r4pinto knows were that is.This way we don't have to worry about hotel or motel rooms.
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BlueGoldPinto

That sounds Great! I went up there this year and there was only ONE Pinto, at a Ford Display booth with a new Mustang and a Five Hundered. What other cars did Ford Make? Mustang....based on a Pinto.....Hmmm, what else? Oh yeah, the Mustang was built on this one car called a Falcon. It had it's chassis. It also had a 289. Wasn't there a car called a Thunderbird that had one of those? ;) :D
My theory on the Gas Tank of the Ford Pinto:
If it ain't fixed, don't break it!! :)

crazyhorse

YES Tony... they made Econoline Vans! Pintos & Econolines... did they make anything else? I heard rumors once of this car named after a different horse.... ummmmm was it Stallion.... no that was a Pinto Package in '76...  Mustang... yeah that's it!! It was even Pinto based!
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r4pinto

I know... It was news to me too when I went to a Ford Owners cruise in last year.. ;D That was where I met Harley & saw his Pinto, as well as the red 77 panel wagon that was at the Pinto meet this year.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Pintony