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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Bigtimmay

Theres nothing wrong with the stock one and as for the throttle cable it must have just been junk in the first place cause my throttle cables out of the T bird the engine came from and it has 0 Problems. I got a stock clutch cable from fred when I did the 5 speed swap and I have had no problems with it the aftermarket ones from the parts store are trash better off getting a Nos one or even used.
Only other thing I could tell yah is maybe look at like speedway at the street rod pedal assemblys or maybe even stock car stuff. But I can tell yah right now neither is gunna be cheap so be prepared to ditch out cash for that kinda stuff. But with the street rod stuff youll prolly need a Tbird bellhousing so yah can convert to hydraulic/slave.
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

carbomb

i'm getting really tired of fixing this old thing. The clutch cable broke and i had to buy a new one which was junk and pulled through the firewall. kind of a poor design. i wasn't willing to wait another 2 weeks for a replacement that would probably break too so i put 4 hoseclamps around it to keep it from pulling through again.(holding for 2 weeks now) Tonight my throttle cable broke. i had to stack coins on the idle adjustment screw to keep it at about 4500 rpm and drove it home like that. does anybody know if there is an aftermarket pedal assembly i could put in this someone easily? I don't like fixing it! i like making it better!

carbomb

Quote from: Tinson on March 22, 2012, 10:56:58 PM
Carbomb

If you dont mind me asking, where did you find the roll pan at?  I love the look.

I drew the shape of the bend on cardboard and had a piece of 18 gauge steel rolled to that shape at a metal shop in town. And i cut it to fit and built the licence plate and exhaust cutout out of extra steel and welded it on. took me a full weekend to do. If you want some more pictures i'm sure i have some somewhere of the making.

Tinson

Carbomb

If you dont mind me asking, where did you find the roll pan at?  I love the look.
'78 cruisin wagon - work in progress as of 5-7-2012
289 - C4 - 8.8 posi - keeping power steering and power brakes.

r4pinto

Wow that car looks really sharp. I like the roll pan at the back in place of the rear bumper
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

v8junkie

73 Pinto Wagon
64 Falcon Futura Convertible

carbomb

got wheels for it (17X8's +30mm) and finished the interior up mostly. thats about it for now. the wheels i hit right on for backspacing. I ended up having to run 1/4 inch spacers in the back with my narrowed explorer axel and none in the front after the 5 lug rotors. The tires in the front are 205/40/17 and in the back 225 something. they are old ones and they were free!

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt120/Stoodles28/IMG_0469.jpg

Reeves1


carbomb

I got my front converted to 5 lug with this kit

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSTANG-II-11-BRAKE-KIT-FORD-5-x-4-50-PATTERN-/130409898583?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item1e5d092257#ht_1359wt_1159

took a week or so to come but it looks great and went on super easy! heres a picture of my drilled and slotted rotors painted and on my car

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt120/Stoodles28/IMG_04341.jpg

Just wanted to know if anybody had experience with cobra r rims on the front. I wanted 17X8's with 5.68" of backspacing an 1/2" spacers. Anybody know if this will work fine without rubbing?

v8junkie

Your wagon is looking great!! I like the magnum wheels personally and will be doing a 15x6 and 15x8 on my project when the time comes... Plus you can get Pinto emblems for the center of them! Mine might be a better fit for them though since I am putting 70 Boss stripes on the car. I am also doing the 11" brake swap you had linked earlier Carbomb (the UPS guy struggled with that box, he is learning to hate me lately) and the kit looks very good, I havent got car back from bodyshop yet to start the install though. Hopefully the kit fits as good as it looks. :)
73 Pinto Wagon
64 Falcon Futura Convertible

carbomb

does anybody have a picture of a pinto with 15 inch american sprints all the way around?

bbobcat75

cragars are the best for these old cars they are period correct and look awsome!!! have a set of 13's on my wagon and love them!!!
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carbomb

dang those look good!!!! http://jalopnik.com/cragars/ this makes me want to put cragers on my car and drop it a few inches! im getting an aluminum driveshaft cut down today! picking it up tomorrow and i have work off after school for the rest of the week so i can hopefully get it driving again before the weekend! and test out the locker! ;D

Pinturbo75

75 turbo pinto trunk, megasquirt2, 133lb injectors, bv head, precision 6265 turbo, 3" exhaust,bobs log, 8.8, t5,, subframe connectors, 65 mm tb, frontmount ic, traction bars, 255 lph walbro,
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Srt

i like the spokes too. by the way; your wagon looks great.  i like the rear pan with an accurately placed cut out for the muffler.  the color is attention grabbing without being too loud and if you make it sit a lot lower it will finish off the package just right.
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

carbomb

i thought about cragers too! i havnt seen a nicely done pinto with a set of cragers on it though! Someone should start a topic with just different style rims on pintos so that it can make that decision a little easier! and im converting the front to 5 lug 11 inch disks as well so i can run the same wheel front and back. I really like the Ansen Sprints but they just look to stock for me. and i would rather have chrome or a color for rims not aluminum finish its just too dull.

RSM

I'm going to switch to Cragars once I get the car done. I like the Centerlines I have but I have a soft spot for Cragar SS wheels.

dave1987

I would say either slots or "spokes". I have the "four spoke" steel styled wheels (similar to the spokes you have) that were Pinto option, and love them, but I've also always wanted a set of good slotted wheels.

Honestly, when I do my car, I will do either Rally or Ansen Sprints, which ever is most affordable at the time, as both are quite appealing.

In the end it all comes down to personal taste.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

RSM

Stay with the spokes...they look waaaaaaaaaay better than slots.

JohnW

I've gotta say the slot mags look the best.  The 5 spoke Rallye wheels don't fit the character of a Pinto to me.  Is the 8.8 the 5 lug Explorer style?  If so, keep the 4 lug slot mags up front and get a pair of Ansen Sprints for the back.
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carbomb

I shortened an 8.8 for my wagon and painted it up real nice. 373 LSD disk brakes. After taking the wheels off my torino and trying them for size im thinking about putting some just like it on my pinto. What do you think? the fronts arnt bolted on just sitting there so they stick out a little. I also painted my grill black when i painted my axel and tinted the lenses because they were all yellowish. and put on a chrome bumper! these are my other option for wheel
http://www.ebay.com/itm/U-S-Wheel-304-Series-Stealth-Star-Black-Wheel-15-x7-5x4-5-BC-/390372357762?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item5ae4017682
probably with a green stripe around the lip or maybe refinished gunmetal grey. opinions?

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt120/Stoodles28/IMG_0358.jpg

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt120/Stoodles28/IMG_0357.jpg

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt120/Stoodles28/IMG_0347.jpg

78squirewagon

Any chance you still have the clips that hold the Squire molding on. I could use a couple


mark
1978 Squire wagon,red, 69000 and counting original miles

1978 Hatchback, red (built four days after  the Squire)

carbomb

Quote from: JohnW on October 21, 2011, 10:17:57 PM
I'd kill to have a '64 Econoline.  Pintos don't seem much safer to me aside from a front end collision, if he was concerned about safety why'd he let you replace it with a Pinto?

That's a hell of a project car for a high school student.  I bought mine right after I graduated and 5 months later I still have a lot in the works...

thanks! and that van wasnt safe any way you looked at it. front end side or back end collision. im sure it would of exploded before any pinto did! my pintos doors have huge crash bars in the doors, newer seatbelts out of a 96 mustang and lots of front end absorbency! the  back would hold up ok. there is a foot of room between the gas tank and the back and a lot of metal! .

JohnW

I'd kill to have a '64 Econoline.  Pintos don't seem much safer to me aside from a front end collision, if he was concerned about safety why'd he let you replace it with a Pinto?

That's a hell of a project car for a high school student.  I bought mine right after I graduated and 5 months later I still have a lot in the works...
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carbomb

Quote from: D1 on September 24, 2011, 05:07:33 AM
this car is NOT going to help me win the argument with my son on the LIME GREEN he wants to paint his 80 wagon  ::)

but it does look better than I thought once you see it on the whole car


you have done a fine job on it

thanks and thats too funny. It is still a lot of green and will take some getting used to. I was walking to my car yesterday and overheard a girl say " holy S$#@ look at how F#$!in green that car is" i just started laughing

D1

this car is NOT going to help me win the argument with my son on the LIME GREEN he wants to paint his 80 wagon  ::)

but it does look better than I thought once you see it on the whole car


you have done a fine job on it
Thanks
May the Lord bless

Romans 14:11(KJV)

carbomb


Pinto5.0

Quote from: carbomb on September 13, 2011, 11:06:41 PM
yeah now they will! a lot of people just ask me why a pinto? why not a mustang or a camaro. a lot more "desirable" cars. but i would wrather have something unique. and i like it. so i guess that's all that matters.

I have a highly modified 2007 Mustang that will end up costing me nearly 100K by the time it's finished but I really enjoy hopping in my Pinto's & running around in them. They are waaaaay more fun to drive & I don't freak out over a rock chip in the paint.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
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carbomb

yeah now they will! a lot of people just ask me why a pinto? why not a mustang or a camaro. a lot more "desirable" cars. but i would wrather have something unique. and i like it. so i guess that's all that matters. what i dont like about it is the really short staples that hold the headliner in! Anyone know of a better way of putting one in?

JoeBob

I wanted to quote you  but I messed it up. Don't know what I did wrong. I wanted to comment on your statement

"I wanted something different that nobody really desires to have"

NOBODY DESIRES TO HAVE?  The first time you hit the street you will find,  EVERYONE WANTS YOUR CAR.
77 yellow Bobcat hatchback
Deuteronomy 7:9