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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

2nd Stampede?

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Norman Bagi

I am working on a second Stampede for 2012, it will be  smaller than the first. So it won't be 5 days long.  How much smaller and where is what I am working on, any feedback would be great. I am thinking a 2-3 day event.  I will post some ideas, there wasn't hardly any feedback on the first ideas so I am going back to the drawing board on this.  I am also trying to organize a big event for 2013, so stay tuned.

dave1987

I would love to, myself. Perhaps get a few other Pinto owners in on it to. With my work schedule it's get up, work, go home, sleep, repeat. Today was the first day I got to do anything out of the "plan" in awhile.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: skunky56 on August 02, 2011, 06:29:51 PM
Norm, that sounds like a lot of fun, however it's tough for us West coast guys to get back East.

SOMEBODY! needs to step up for the west coast Pinto owners and NEEDS! to lead a Pinto Stampede for the Wounded Warrior Project from north to south or vise-versa for you guys! Nothing says we can't have "Stampedes" all across the USA on a smaller scale. Look at me, up here I'm a Stampede of One! keeping the dream alive and riding for them Wounded Warriors.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

chrisf1219

hey  paul i have to ask any order on that pairing? :hypno: which ones 1st.  im alive and well new job 6days a week sunday off aleast the monets good and i start at 6 am everyday cya chris :fastcar:
77 wagon auto 2.3  wagons are the best and who knew I like flames on a pinto!!!!

skunky56

Norm, that sounds like a lot of fun, however it's tough for us West coast guys to get back East. CB , Illinois mother road festival would be cool I would love to attend it, and I have always wanted to and will do the Woodward Dream Cruise .  I'm heading for the largest show/ cruise on the west coast this week. Hot August Nights in South Lake Tahoe & Reno Nevada August 6-14. Check it out maybe some of you will add it to your bucket list.
http://www.hotaugustnights.net/   PS I love the Idea of Pintos & Guns...








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Cookieboystoys

Quote from: Norman Bagi on July 24, 2011, 09:08:50 AM
Now, here is another option for the coming year.  The Midwest Ford Nationals that started this year could be a potential Stampede event.  They could use a boost and we could overun a small field with Pinto's.  Anyone interested in going to this show next year?
email bosspinto@pintostampede.com

It was their first year so... I'll throw this out there... turnout wasn't the greatest and Tony said it was pretty "disoragnized" but did say it was a good location and if the organizers get organized it could be a good show. I know Wayne had a good time...

If you really wanted to make a statement! I might suggest this show in Illinois

International Route 66 Mother Road Festival
http://www.familyevents.com/event/158

3 days of fun and more cars than you could shake a stick at. Press, TV and newspapers all over the place and the Pintos would make a heck of a statement there. Only drawback is 3 days of cars parked in downtown Springfield and hotels required if you stay for the event at about $100+ a night for 2 beds. I went to this with Tony and Barth Hamilton a few years back, first trip with my 1977 and camper combo... I had a blast!

It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

DreamBean

Let's see, You said something about VA, Tenn, N.C. The first thing that comes to mind is the Shenandoah Parkway and the Blue Ridge parkway.  Great History with with Great Views. Lodging might be an Issue. A web search on it might give more insight.  Just my 2 cents. Now i'm broke.
Go Ford, Go Fast Or Go Home!

blupinto

Norm, I would love to do another stampede but I'm still recovering from The Original one. :lol:


Aren't you still planning a 45th Anniversary Stampede in 5 years?  If I'm still welcome, I want to start saving up for that one. The Southern Route stampede sounds kinda fun but a) I don't own a gun, though I'm willing to shoot one at inanimate targets of course, and b) NASCAR is ok but I'd get an overdose of watching too much in a small period of time. Now I would love to have a Stampede that visits Civil War battlefields and other historical landmarks where America's legacy was being forged. In a couple years I'll see if I can save enough time/money to go to Carlisle again and actually spend a few days at some Civil War sites like Antietam and Manassas and such. And of course visit Dwayne and his family again.  ;)
One can never have too many Pintos!

78squirewagon

Quote from: Norman Bagi on July 24, 2011, 09:08:50 AM
OK, not allot of response to the Horsepower / Firepower Stampede. Texas and Oklahoma seem interested, I will reserve this idea for now, this may resurface as a Stampede in a year or two, this one would require allot of advanced planning.
Now, here is another option for the coming year.  The Midwest Ford Nationals that started this year could be a potential Stampede event.  They could use a boost and we could overun a small field with Pinto's.  Anyone interested in going to this show next year?
email bosspinto@pintostampede.com

I like that idea. Just get me a date before October so I can ask for time off from work.
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Norman Bagi

OK, not allot of response to the Horsepower / Firepower Stampede. Texas and Oklahoma seem interested, I will reserve this idea for now, this may resurface as a Stampede in a year or two, this one would require allot of advanced planning.
Now, here is another option for the coming year.  The Midwest Ford Nationals that started this year could be a potential Stampede event.  They could use a boost and we could overun a small field with Pinto's.  Anyone interested in going to this show next year?
email bosspinto@pintostampede.com

dyerjg

I'm in for a Oklahoma/ Texas stampede also.

STREETREBEL

I like the Texas, Oklahoma, ect. route also. You might lure a few left coast folks in!
Maybe a partial Route 66 and famous eating establishment along the way. There are
several old historical Dragstrips through these parts also.

Norman Bagi

Quote from: popbumper on July 19, 2011, 07:10:27 PM
Would like to see a Southern route with Texas/Oklahoma/NM/Arizona involved. Fred's can be the stopping point.....or a stop in route. And how about a stop at Frank's in OK?

Chris
I will consider anything, the reason I chose this area as a possible starting point is for all the tracks within a localized area.  This would be much smaller than the original Stampede, so two to three days tops.  The Arizona & New Mexico sun would be brutal on the Ponies. But I love the area.

popbumper

Would like to see a Southern route with Texas/Oklahoma/NM/Arizona involved. Fred's can be the stopping point.....or a stop in route. And how about a stop at Frank's in OK?

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

Norman Bagi

Here is a link to Pennsylvania reprosity so i can go through these stateas and everyone is welcome to use my firearms if this happens. You will just pay for the ammunition.  http://www.pafoa.org/law/carrying-firearms/concealed-carry/reciprocity If we can convince the tracks to let us in that would give us the possibility of Atlanta, Charlotte, Bristol, Martinsville and Richmond http://www.theinsidegroove.com/misc/nascar-race-track-locations-map.php avoiding South carolina and Alabama  at all costs, unless I get rights to carry through here. Which would give us Talladega and Darlington as possible tracks. Keep in mind I am just feeling this out, the Tracks are individually owned and may not want to partake in this, in which we could do local and dirt tracks.  Send me an e-mail with your thoughts.

bosspinto@pintostampede.com

Norman Bagi

Guns, God, and Pinto's

We can arrange who has carry permits for various states later. My question is.
Who wants to come along.

Bigtimmay

LOL the first one sounds fun! Id want my CCW though and a couple 50 cal desert eagles. Preferably two of the gold ones on this page just so if i did get pulled over it would be a funny site for the cop to be like "Do you have any guns? Yep two wanna see?"! http://swipelife.com/2008/12/11/custom-desert-eagle/
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Cookieboystoys

Quote from: phils toys on July 19, 2011, 02:45:21 PM
not sure about carrying guns across state lines.

carry permits I know depend on what state has issued them. With a MN one I know I could carry in some states, not in others, depends on which states "honor" the MN permit. If I had one in another state it might be different depending on which states "honor" them. If the guns are "secured" I don't think it's as big an issue if locked up and in the trunk for example.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

phils toys

first one sounds fun but not sure about carrying guns across state lines.
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Norman Bagi

So many of you wanted to do this again, I am looking into a possible mini Stampede next year, maybe over the Spring break or middle of summer, not associated with any car show.

Before I begin work here are the options.

1) We hit the southern route around Tennessee, North carolina, Virginia.  We hit some NASCAR tracks over two to three days, in between we go to shooting ranges and fire away with whatever you can carry.
I want to call it Horsepower and Firepower!

2) We could do something less aggressive and call it peace, love and Pinto's.

Send me some feedback at bosspinto@pintostampede.com I want to hear if you want to do another mini one, who, and how many before I look into sponsors or costs associated with it.