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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Quote from: pintoman on June 29, 2011, 05:54:28 PM
The kids class was won by Philstoy's older boy Kyle.So congrats to all that took part in the contest.
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
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2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

pintoman

Thanks Becky.I can't wait until we meet again.I would also like to thank Mark for his help with the model car contest.I loved his garage display that he had there.With out his help I do not think we would have had a contest.John took first in the adult class and Becky took runner up.The kids class was won by Philstoy's older boy.I did not get his name.So congrats to all that took part in the contest.
05 Pigon Forge Meet, 06 Carlile Meet Coordinator 06-07 Carlile Regional, Brief Case Award (ask)

blupinto

I knew I forgot  somebody!!! Harley!!! How could I forget him!?!  Harley, thank you for bringing me into the fold with everybody else. You are a sweetie and I hope I'll see you soon like the rest!

Norm, I don't think I have John's phone #... do I? Break away that ice! lol  ;D

One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

At the risk of sounding like an echo, I'd like to say thank you to a few people also:  First of all, to Scott Hamilton for the time and expertise he puts into keeping this site running.  Without it, I doubt I would even have a Pinto again and I most certainly would not have met the number of fine people and made the number of friends that I have here.  Also to his wife Stephanie for her efforts to get photos of the participants at Carlisle with their cars.  She was diligent in that pursuit and the results are fabulous.  I first met Scott and Stephanie three years ago in Tulsa.  They were a class act then, and remain so today!  To Norm Bagi for organizing the Pinto Stampede and being gracious enough to allow me to drive along with them for a while in spite of being in my Chrysler Sebring convertible!  I had a blast!  Only two things would have made it better...   1.) doing it in my Pinto and 2.) traveling the full route with you.  To Joe Escobar for his wonderful videos that made me feel like a part of the Stampede even before I met up with them, and for bringing the only (5W) Burnt Orange 1974 Runabout there!  Just like my original Pinto!  What memories that brought back!  To Harley Stewart and Phil Reynders for the amazing job they did organizing the 40th Anniversary meet.  All I can say is wow!  It was the most fun I've had in a long time!  No detail was overlooked!  To Louise Bagi who had the foresight to book an extra room at the Sleep Inn and thereby was able to resolve my need for lodging with a single phone call.  That saved me a lot of hassle at the end of a long day and it was very much appreciated.  To Beverly Murphy, for keeping me entertained with her fantastic sense of humor and, in a more serious conversation, for her insights on dealing with my mother's Alzheimers.  To Becky McCaa for taking the risk of driving cross-country and back in an unrestored 40-year-old Pinto to be a part of the festivities and for the thoughtful gift she brought me.  Also for taking the time out of her trip to spend a few days with us.  We look forward to your next visit, Becky.  I could go on and on, but these are the major players involved in making my adventure to the 40th Anniversary meet such a carefree and fun experience!  Thank you all!
Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Norman Bagi

Becky,

You did a great job, don't forget that. As for the something slipped, you know that wasn't just me right?  We will keep that other person annonymous.  Glad you had fun and made it home safely.  I think John Clor was waiting for you to call, I will give him a ring and break the ice tomorrow.
See you on the next one.

blupinto

I really don't know where to start, so I'll go chronologically (as I met everyone) as best as I can...

            I want to thank Norm and Louise Bagi for making the Stampede- and my trip- possible. Norm's dream to drive across this great land in Pintos is a dream that in me had lain dormant for so long I had all but forgotten it.  As a child and pre-teen I loved to travel, and I wished that one day I would do it in my very favorite car- a Pinto. Life, as it so often does, gets in the way- and responsibilities take precidence over dreams and wishes. I wanted to be a part of the 40th Anniversary in Carlisle, but the Pinto Stampede made it impossible NOT to go.  Louise was instrumental in helping me with lodging and was a blast to hang out with. I also want to thank Norm's Mom Beverly for putting up with me and keeping me in stitches. I can't remember laughing so hard as at her Boulder Driver Tales. Plus, if it weren't for her buying a Pinto when Norm was a wee child there wouldnt've been a Stampede... at least not one as fun as this one!

         I want to thank Joe Escobar for filming this historic event and showing the rest of the world all the fun we were having. Watching the video now is already bringing me to tears because I already miss caravanning with my Pinto Peeps and talking on the hand-helds.  Also Joe stepped in to help me a few times, as did several others.

           I also want to thank Scott and Teeda for their assistance with Ruby as well as their friendship. I hope they live happily ever after and I'll get to see them again.  Same goes with the Father-Son team (forgive me guys my brain is fried!) lol.  Dad had the primered white trailered one and son had that gorgeous olive drab glossy sedan. I still owe him a calculator.  I want to give a shout out to Richard Metcalfe (RYSCAR) for going with me to Gettysburg and treating me to the museum/cyclorama and a picnic lunch as well as a lift the day before to dinner with Jim and his lovely wife Doreen. Speaking of which, I thank that neat pair of people for housing me (and putting up with me too) for a night and helping insure that I get back home.  I thank Tommy and Sherry from my favorite state of South Carolina for their friendship and kudos (and showing me where the mango margaritas were. Thanks Sherry!)

          To Chuck, the Phils (Reinders and Toys), the Brians (Campbell and ... GAAAA! I can't remember his last name!!!), Bill and Connie Rainey, Mark Mowry, 78Squirewagon (I really am that stupid... I cannot retain all names) and his sweet wife, Louise Hart and her husband (they drove that lovely black beauty LTD), two guys (one drove a real woody Squire and the other drove a blue (?) latter-day sedan or Runabout and his wife drove a red latter-day sedan/Runabout... ((well the three of them were nothing short of amazing in their support of me but again my brain fails me but I'll never forget them!))), Scott and his lovely wife... I know I'm not remembering everybody so please forgive me... but I want to give my deep appreciation for welcoming me- a sometime loudmouth and troublemaker on the site due to my speaking my mind- with open arms and/or hearts. I had never met these folks face-to-face before, but I felt like I was being welcomed into the family. I can never thank you all enough.

                 I'd like to thank John Clor of Ford Racing for wanting to meet a nobody like me just because I drove a 40-year-old car and her original 1.6 liter engine from Southern California to Denver, then Carlisle Pennsylvania.  I hope he still wants to help Ruby... I haven't heard from him.  Also I want to extend my appreciation to Fox 43 News for putting my Baby Girl Ruby on TV! I about bawled with pride!

                I want to say Thank You to all of those who were involved with Ruby and her awards. I never ever EVER thought we'd get anything. I just wanted to be part of the whole thing, so this was an extra special finish. I do apologize for dropping the F bomb during the speech... I was so excited, surprised, and awe-stricken that it just slid out. Thank you all for cheering me on.

              A big huge thank you goes to Dwayne and his wonderful wife Gloria for keeping me fed in Carlisle and Virginia. They showed this city girl what Southern Hospitality is. Also I want to thank their son Cody for being a willing gofer during a time when he should be celebrating a little freedom after graduating High School.

             Matty, thank you for coming and bringing Harold II for me to see. I am finally glad to meet you and hope to see you really soon.

                I will apologize for not remembering everybody... I want to thank those folks not named above for helping make the Stampede what it was- a really fun road trip. Thank you all also for teaching me how to pop the clutch, push Ruby so I could... helping with repairs, etc. Pintony, I wished I could've talked to you more. I wanna pick your brain... and someday maybe adopt one of your lovely '72 wagons. Thank you too for helping with Ruby.

               I'm also gonna apologize for sometimes losing patience with the way things were going- or not going. I was worried about Ruby some of the times and other times it was hurry up and wait- then hurry up right when I step out of Ruby. lol Norm took the brunt of it and I appreciate him not taking me down a peg. Also thank him for a) nominating me for Celebrity Choice Award, and b) slipping a little something for gas on the way home.  It was very hard to say goodbye to this great family  after all we went through.

             Last, but most definitely not least, I thank Fred and Joy Morgan for their hospitality and Fred getting Ruby ready for that LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG trip... then rescuing me when that damn throttle clip escaped and stranded me in Parker. That was pretty scary... I almost threw in the towel at that point. This man can fix ANYTHING!!!


                I have come to love you all... I really want to do this again- awards or no awards! Thank you thank you THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

Hi pintogenie!

In answer to your question, we officially have 6757 members on this site!  Obviously, many of those are inactive but we still have a pretty great bunch of people which you apparently discovered in Carlisle.  I don't know whether I met you there or not (way too many folks to remember everybody) but please know that you are welcome here.  Maybe next time you can bring your Pinto with you to the Ford Nationals at Carlisle!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Norman Bagi

Quote from: 78squire on June 18, 2011, 06:37:55 PM
We had a GREAT time at Carlisle - See you there next year!

WHERE ARE THE PICTURES?

:o)


Try this site for 888 pictures http://pintostampede.shutterfly.com

Tom

pintogenie

Hello to all fellow Pinto owners - I'm probably the newest kid on the block - I just joined the PCCA (today) - my 'darling Pinto' is a '78 3-door runabout w/ sun roof. I've owned it  only three years but it's a car collector's dream - I'm the second owner - original owner was Ford dealership service manager who bought it new, saved all the paperwork, only drove it back & forth to work (5 miles each way), and 20 years ago when he retired, the Pinto was 'retired' too to a friend's plush garage where it was started up and driven briefly occasionally. Except for a new paint job and new carpeting, everything else is original and in great shape (61,000 oroginal miles). My husband and I went to Ford Nat'l, Carlisle for the Stampede - did not drive the Pinto (maybe next year) but enjoyed photographing all the Pintos and talking to a few enthusiasts. A pleasure to make your acquaintance!  I will enjoy hearing/reading about Pintos and their owners. The Stampede was fantastic - all of you put unbelievable time and effort into it - and it showed.  How many fellow members are there in the club? More later, Pintogenie

78squire

We had a GREAT time at Carlisle - See you there next year!

WHERE ARE THE PICTURES?

:o)

Tom

TOMMYS

I would just like to let everyone know that I no longer feel alone in the world with my LOVE FOR THE PINTO(S)!!!! Nancy and I had the best time that we have ever had at a car event.It was so awesome to see all of those Pintos in one area and everyone that owns them.To all of you who put their energy and efforts into the success of the events,THANK YOU!!! Great job,I hope that we all do it again soon....I would have loved to have rode with you guys in the Stampede,however my car's first test drive was actually later in the day when you all drove through Ohio.Some of my friends got to see you driving across I-70 and of course had to let me know...I got to meet a lot of people face to face that I have been on-line friends with for a long time.Great to meet everyone. Thanks again for putting all of this together and letting us be a part of a once in a lifetime experience!!! Tommy Sanders (TommyS)

Pangra74

Scott,

Thanks for the kind words. I never met a nicer bunch of people, and it was
very hard to leave everyone behind to be at my son's graduation.
It all worked out, flights were on time home and back to Carlisle, and the car
got us back home without even a hint of trouble. Only bummer for us was losing
my video and digital cameras on the flight from O'Hare to Harrisburg. Hopefully lost and found will come thru. Fortunately, no video footage or pics were lost and
were already on my computet. I have a lot of footage to edit and will have a film available soon for everyone.

Joe
1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

Scott Hamilton

40th Anniversary of the Pinto...

I was amazed at how many Pintos were present at the show. At last count we saw 64 Pintos either participating in the show- for sale or displayed in the T-building.  I personally counted 24 Pintos that participated in one leg of the Pinto Stampede. This was a history making event.

Almost six years ago, Harley Stewart (PintoMan) made the suggestion at the First PCCA meet in Pigeon Forge, TN to have us participate with the Carlisle All Fords show in PA which turned out to be the genesis of everyone's effort on the East coast for years to come.  Bill Rainey (77turbopinto) started the dialog with Carlisle and Rick Marco with respect to the possibility of a 40th Anniversary celebration.  Phil Reynders (1600Pinto) and Harley Stewart picked up the baton to organize the details afterward.  Then, Norman Bagi (rear ended) had a game changing idea to organize a Pinto Stampede which was the key to making the 40th an unparalleled success. 

It was a pleasure to participate in the Pinto Stampede and to ride with 24 Pintos all in a row down the highway.  I was fortunate to have my wife, Stephanie, drive the truck with trailer for a couple of stints so I could drive my Pinto in the Stampede. I can't remember having that much fun in a long time. The response was overwhelmingly positive from the Media to everyday motorists.  Everyone had wide smiles and was pleased to see so many Pintos in one place. We were quite the oddity but enjoyed every moment.

Here is a fun one- we all had to do a quick backtrack to get us on the right road and a large parking lot was chosen to pull through to get everyone turned around. The parking lot happened to be a Ford Dealership... gotta love Norm! About the time the 10th Pinto in the Stampede passed the glass showroom window, there was standing room only with all the dealership employees plastered to the glass.  I'm sure we were the highlight of their day if not the event everyone will remember for years to come.  As I have already said, the Pinto Stampede was key to the success of the Carlisle 40th Anniversary event.  Without it we would not have had the extraordinary participation and numbers.  Carlisle gave a big welcome when the Pinto Stampede rolled in on the last leg, so much so that they asked us to 'restage' in the order of our joining the Stampede and they filmed us entering the show field. One guy deserves our sincere gratitude from all the PCCA and Pinto Community. This was Norman Bagi's idea and he was instrumental in organizing this event; getting the word out, doing the interviews, promoting the event, taking care of everyone during the trip and even staying behind , allowing his family to return home without him,  to assist a driver with issues on her car.  This guy went the extra mile and then some to make this happen!  I would also be amiss not to mention Louise, Norm's wife. She was our foundation riding in the Horned 'Support Vehicle' truck at the rear making sure the stragglers got where they needed to be.  Norm was up front and Louise was taking up the rear to keep us in line.

Let me also say what a pleasure it was to ride for a cause. It was fantastic to extend the Stampede into a fund raising event for the Wounded Warriors Project.  Riding with all those Pintos was fantastic but adding the fact that we were helping the Wounded Warrior Project made it 'right'. When we were able to meet Wounded Warriors, parents of wounded warriors, and project coordinators, talk with them and learn more about what we were supporting at various points on the Stampede, it really gave you a warm feeling and motivated everyone to do a little more.  We all felt empowered and willing to express the highest of standards in our manners, etiquette and commitment.  This cause united everyone together.

Guys, did you see some of the video streaming from the Stampede? Joe Escobar had his laptop in the passenger seat with an inverter the entire trip taking live video and streaming the same when cell data connections were available and uploading the archived vides when data coverage was not available. He was riding back in forth in the pack to make sure everyone was on camera and got their moment of glory.  Joe on the other hand was content to stay behind the camera and film this historic event. You could not have met a nicer guy who was also willing to help at the drop of a hat.  Joe flew out of Carlisle back home to see his son's graduation and flew back afterward.  He missed the Carlisle Parade but provided a 'stand in' friend to parade his pinto so the numbers would be high.  Joe is a class act and one in a million!

Well, my family and I just arrived home after a week of camping after the week long Stampede/Carlisle event and I wanted to give a quick Yeah to everyone that helped with this unprecedented event.  A big thank you goes out to Phil and Harley for coordinating Carlisle and handling all the details.  Harley actually planned a couple more events and had awards ready but was unable to complete them due to the 'packed schedule' we all experienced.  Phil gave out the awards and really went to bat for all the pinto owners when we lined up for the parade (there was a break in the lines for the parade and Phil worked with the officials vigorously to get everything moved around so the Pintos could be together).

My heartfelt thank you to everyone that has contributed to this great event- you have accomplished much for all of us!

Scott Hamilton
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I will be adding to Phil's list, many more people helped out. 
Anyone could have jumped in to do something for the 40th, this was not a closed door session, so I want to thank those who helped.
First Brian "Cookieboy" Campbell, who contacted me over a year ago and took over the website and made a huge donation to the Wounded Warrior Project that dwarfed all others. His contributions are immesurable, I have made a life long friend.
My wife Louise who took care of allot of the things I hate, such as the hotel block reservations, arranging my schedule at carlisle and keeping me sane throughout the event.
Scott Hamilton, who backed us up from the start and allowed us use the forum and list the Stampede repeatedly (this may have annoyed some) he also helped with Becky's car and went into the stands to sell raffle tickets. We had some good conversations, and will have allot more.
Rick Marko of Carlisle events (and his staff, especially Valerie) who not only gave us celebrity status, but while he was running everything never hesitated to stop and cater to our needs.  Such as when the race Pinto's came out of the "T" building I had a last second idea to get them on the track and film them, he made it happen without any notice. He also sent me an e-mail asking if everyone, including Becky made it home safe, he is one of us!
John Clor of Ford Racing, another contribution that was out of this world. He brought Ford with him and gave the Pinto respect. He got us certificates signed by Edsel Ford the second, 40th Pins and dinner at the parade.  John is a Mustang guy, but he was a Pinto guy First.  Thanks to him and I am glad to call him a friend.
John Mooney of over the Moon PR, you rock man!  Press from coast to coast, TV, newspaper, Radio, I am still getting residual calls on this ride.  The Pinto got major props this year thanks to you.  You believed in our odd little drive and put some good paying clients on hold to get us great press.  Thank You, the next cold one is on me.
To all those who volunteered to help with the raffle, I know I will not be able to name you all, but a few stood out Bill Lockoski who immediately grabbed a handefull of raffle tickets and headed out into the field to guilt people into buying them. My Mom Beverly Murphy who maned the table almost the whole time. Others who also took tickets for sale included, Louise Hart (LTD / PINTO) Scott Hamilton, Cookieboy, Richard Metcalf, and I know others were involved, but I was all over the place and I appologize if I missed you.
Phil and Harley for volunteering to organize the 40th.  This was not an appointed role, these men asked for the burden and carried it.  We thank you for your help.
Amy, (Phil's Toys) thank you for taking the kids and keeping them safe and occupied so we could work the field.
Louise's Mom Virginia for watching the kids while we went Stampeding, fielding calls for lost people and picking up forgotten items and loose ends before meeting us in carlisle.
Scott and Teeda for stepping in and becoming close friends overnight.  For doing the cooking at the tent, for helping round up Stampeders along the way, for having a sense of humor and being good company.
Joe Escobar, you came a long way and as I write this, you still are not home yet.  I am proud to call you friend, you did a fabulous job documenting this whole thing.  I look forward to what will come of that footage. You sarcastic humor kept me centered, even when i made the occasional wrong turn.
Becky for believing in this trip enough to drive Ruby Red Hot all the way to Pennsylvania from California, you too are not home yet as this is written.  God Speed Ruby, you did good!
Jim and Doreen Madison for doing the 50/50 and raffle along the way.  Money was raised for the Wounded Warrior Project and we also raised $500 for the flight 93 memorial, this would not have happened without you.
Richard Metcalf for donating the watch for that flight 93 memorial 50/50. RYSCAR came down form Canada to ride with us, thanks.
Dave Young for meeting us and showing us Fort Riley, his Ranchero was a sweet ride, he may be in the next Stampede (did I say that?) his wife is thinking of getting a Pinto.
Ken and crew at Specs in Topeka for the warm reception, the donation, the press and an awesome 3lb. Burger.
Kansas Speedway and Jodi Esely who arranged for us to drive and lead us around the track. You guys rule!
Brace and Charlene Feldbush, Thanks for taking the time to talk with us, we shed a few tears, I know I did. We will be doing more to help in the future, I am sure of it. May God Bless you and your son and all those you work so hard to help.
Aaron and Jim, your presence at Carlisle inspired allot of us.  Thanks for coming down, we hope to see you next year and for years to come. Jim, I hope that knee gets better soon, good luck with the operation.
Brian and Anita (NoForkin) for having a nice cold beer waiting for all of us at carlisle.  For helping me understand what i was up against from the start and for helping out with everything, like when I got the call that Tom Cogars Pinto was stranded outside the gates, you shot into action with a bunch of the guys and brought him back in. Congrats on the double award, you deserve it.
Bill Reiney for changing that timing belt when we got in, we were a little tired from the trip. That gave us a little time to have a cold one, I know Rod was appreciative.
Marianne Tellor, for the T-shirst, the cold drinks and the warm welcome at the St. louis Arch. I wish we had more time to speak, but things on this trip moved fast. You made us feel at home, Thank You.
Pintony, Thanks for meeting with the people at the Arch and arraning our visit, for making the changes when the first location got flooded and for meeting us outside St. Louis and bringing us in. Oh and thanks for the constant weather updates as we made our way toward Denver, we knew what to expect.
James Brockert, thanks for helping with the raffle in Denver.  It has been many years, you have a beautiful family and it was nice seeing that Maverick again.
Monica Belofrd, thanks for helping at the Wings over the Rockies kick off, awesome job.
To the husband and wife who run the Wonder Tower (sorry I do not have your names) thanks for the laughs, that place is awesome.
Too all those who rode with us on the Stampede, thanks for your patience (once again, as I took the occassional wrong turn) your cooperation and for your help.
If I forgot you, and I know when I send this someone or many of you will come to mind.  Thank You.
Many have asked me if we will do this again.  My response was mostly a stressed look. I don't know if we ever could repeat what happened.  The first is always one for the books, but I am not discounting another Pinto Stampede. For now, the Ponies need some well deserved rest, we put them away tired and wet.

Pinto1600

   Now that I've had some time to settle down after a tough week back at work catching up on paperwork,I have some time to post. Some thoughts on our big bitrhday party for our Pintos. First,I want to give a BIG THANK YOU from Harley and myself to all our Pinto family members who made it to Carlisle to celebrate the 40th anniversary party. As I've stated before,it's not one or two people who made this happen. It was ALL of you! You guys and girls took the time and effort to get there,with the weather,breakdowns and monitary and time investments. We all had a great time,met new friends put faces to names and showed the big boys how our group of loyal Pinto owners got it done! I pray that all of use got home safe and sound,that those still heading home are safe on the road and make it back home really soon! I'd also like thank Norm and Louise Bagi for the outstanding and breathtaking efforts that they put into the Pinto Stampede. The planning,execution and overseeing of the Stampede was truely a work of love and dedication to the Wounded Warrior Project. A heart felt thank you,for being the guardian angles of this group of people and God bless both of you!
              To Harley,THANK YOU! With all of that was going on that weekend,you helped kept me from losing my mind with all the details and helping with the events during the show. You're a GREAT co-chairman!!! And a special THANK YOU to Bill Raine and Brian Berg,and the guys on broken pony rescue teams. Bill did a change out of a broken timing belt on Rod's car during the show and got him back up and running! Brian used his own trailer to rescue a disabled Pinto outside the front gate at Carlisle,and got him back to the group. And the guys (Norm and crew)that worked on Becky's Pinto,I can't say THANK YOU enough!!! They replaced both battery cables(boy,they were toasted!),spark plug wires and got her car a little bit more depedable for the long trip home. And to Pintony,it was fantastic to see you again and THANKS for all your support and being a very deep well of knowledge about our cars!  And THANK YOU to the Carlisle Events crew,Rick Maarko,Val Stewart,and the rest of the gang...you always go out of your way to help us out and make our stay at the show a true pleasure. And at this point,I can't say it louder or more heartfelt,I am humbled and honored to have been a small part of this adventure. THANKS TO ONE AND ALL WHO MADE THIS HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!! See you next year!

                                             Sincerly,
                                             Phil Reynders (pinto1600)
                                             

                                                                                                       
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