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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

supercoupe motor in a pinto??

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dave1957

i saw a couple wagons the other day and asked about parts the guy has a3.8 in his cruzing wagon he is building i didnt look at it close but ill try to get ahold of him and get some info for you
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osiyo59

This would be suitable rans plant into a Pinto. The following specs pertain to a car weighing almost 75% more than a Pinto. Considering this for my 73 wagon.

89-93 Engine Specifications:
  Type: Supercharged OHV V-6
  Bore x stroke, mm: 96.8 x 86.0
  Displacement, cc: 3802
  Displacement, ci: 232
  Compression ratio: 8.2:1
  Bhp@RPM, SAE net: 210@4000
  Torque, lb-ft@RPM: 315@2600
  Fuel delivery: Multi-Port Electronic fuel-injection
  Fuel requirement: unleaded, 92+ octane
  Exhaust-emission control equipment: 3-way catalytic converter,
  exhaust-gas re-circulation, air injection
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vonkysmeed

I would think about using an aluminum 351w, but that would take cubic dollars that I do not have to do.
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pattywagon1977

QuoteV8s make the car TOO nose heavy.

Not true of all V8s. The Rover 4.0 or 4.6 V8 weighs just 320 pounds or so(about 20 pounds LESS than a 2.3). That was the endpoint of my search for an engine, the 4.6 can easily reach 300 hp. Does it count that the engine was made by them when Ford owned the company?

Grumpy 8)
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69GT

  I am anxiously awaiting that project too. My friend has a T-Bird SC with a beefed up 3.8 with headers ported blower, cam, ported heads, full exhaust, and a lot of other mods. I think it made 320-330 HP at the wheels. The blower whine at WOT is wild too. Sounds just like the 03-04 Terminator Cobras :)

Murder

Hey Alex - any progress ?  (This summerI will be building one like this )

The V8 Pinto has been done to death.
A turbo 4 would be fun but . . .
While not capable of huge power numbers, the supercharged V6 should be a lot of fun in a 2,000 lb car :)

- LJ

69GT

    The oil pan was the problem that I didn't want to deal with when I was considering that swap.

71pintoracer

Question....what do you plan to do about the front sump oil pan on all of the aforementioned engines?
just asking...
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

pattywagon1977

I had a 3.0 that moved my '93 Aerostar pretty good also. I could only imagine what it would do in a car half the weight, and with a little tweaking. My '78 Runabout has the 2.8 and it isn't too bad on power for being stock. I still agree with the 2.3 turbo if you want a screamer. V8s make the car TOO nose heavy. You have much more to modify than just the engine mounts for a V8 of any kind. Unless your looking to build a drag car, stick to the smaller lighter engines. My 2.8 is heaver than a 2.3 and have trouble taking off without spinning the tires at many stop lights.

That is my two cents also.
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RSM

those motors are terrible to work on...i just put a rebuilt engine in one. I wouldn't even consider it...JMO

earthquake

What about an explorer 4.0 v6.They make the explorer move pretty good.
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pintoman2.0

Alex,

If you want fast, I would agree with the 2.3 turbo. But if you want something different, go with your original plan. I would love to see that, it is what keeps the hobby interesting.

P

bbobcat75

why use  a 3.8 they were never really a power house motor, even with a supercharger, i would v8 or 2.3 turbo it all the way!!
i had a mustang 3.8 and it was a dog, slow stang all the way, my 5.0 was a screamer!!      i can respect the use of a v6 being that my bobcat has a 2.8 v6 but if i was going to but all that work and time into something i would make it worth while!!!


just my 2 cents
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dholvrsn

One thing I was thinking about is that if the 3.8 is shorter than the V8, that maybe you could mount it an inch or two farther forward and solve a few of the clearance problems with the bell-housing and the firewall.
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75bobcatv6

Ive ran into a few at the local yards here. sometimes I run into the Mercury version as well. next time I am there or if i can find one on Craigslist for a decent price ill get it, and pull what i need im sure AMJ will be doing the same =) once he gets a pinto that is

289pinto

A super coupe swap would be really cool. I would try to find a donor car so you can get everything you need and just swap it in. I'm sure there aren't many around if any!
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amj20

Quote from: dholvrsn on November 20, 2010, 05:36:38 AM
Why not take the 5.0 H.O. out of the Lincoln and drop it in the Pinto? Factory headers and everything!


I've owned a '90 Mark VII, a '84 T-Bird, and a '80 Pinto in this life. The austerity Pinto was a lot more solid car that rusted and broke down far less than the luxury coupes were. The Mark VII was nicknamed the Sinkin Lincoln because it was prone to air suspension problems.
if i get a pinto im going to give the mark to may dad after i redo the exhaust.

dholvrsn

Why not take the 5.0 H.O. out of the Lincoln and drop it in the Pinto? Factory headers and everything!


I've owned a '90 Mark VII, a '84 T-Bird, and a '80 Pinto in this life. The austerity Pinto was a lot more solid car that rusted and broke down far less than the luxury coupes were. The Mark VII was nicknamed the Sinkin Lincoln because it was prone to air suspension problems.
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amj20

i need to find a pinto or bobcat first.i currently own a 1989 lincoln mark vii lsc.its too slow for my taste.i want to run a t-5 behind the 3.8 with a 8" or a 8.8 with 3.55 gears.if everything goes as planned i will have a car with cage and thru the floor sub-frames.ive had this in my head for 2years plus!!!!so ive went threw a lot of ideas.

75bobcatv6

hell im 30 and my eyes are crap. lol. As to the measurements i have no idea. Im starting from scratch here on that one. i know some stuff but not everything. im still learning as i go with some stuff. I really enjoy workin on the bobcats we have here at home. my 75 and my fiancee's 78. I am still planning on using a 3.8l and an AoD trans for it, but i am waiting to hear from my dads friend to see when he will be down here next so we can talk some shop and get it going first. I should have a mock block by then. and hopefully some space at another friends to do the work at.

amj20

well i just grabbed my hand dandy chitons and its not. its bore is:3.910,and its stroke is:3.390,the pistons are the same diameter as a 318 mopar lol.but dont know about compression height, or piston pin.just somethin i thought of.

EDIT: its 3.81 not 3.91 my eyes zoop sorry guys

amj20

Quote from: 75bobcatv6 on November 18, 2010, 01:35:56 AM
A Friend of mine that has done a 302 Swap into his Pinto many years ago told me that the Essex 3.8 is basically a 302 minus 2 Cyl. If that is the case, then his Argument with me about using the 2.3l Leftside long mounts would allow installation into a 75+ Pinto/bobcat. but as to a 71-72 I have no Idea. im not a wealth of info I just have Speculation on the Subject. Hopefully that will change next year.
yeah its basically a 302 i believe???but if i need a welder i got one already if its necessary.my dad was a welder for 22 years so i think he can do it!!!!

75bobcatv6

A Friend of mine that has done a 302 Swap into his Pinto many years ago told me that the Essex 3.8 is basically a 302 minus 2 Cyl. If that is the case, then his Argument with me about using the 2.3l Leftside long mounts would allow installation into a 75+ Pinto/bobcat. but as to a 71-72 I have no Idea. im not a wealth of info I just have Speculation on the Subject. Hopefully that will change next year.

amj20

i know i just want something different.and ive been stuck on it for close to 2 years or more!!!!

RSM

I haven't either. I did a little research last night and didn't find anything. It's not that it can't be done but it would be pricey to say the least

amj20

Quote from: RSM on November 16, 2010, 10:12:16 PM
supercharge a 4 cylinder....

lol ive seen it done,but i havent seen a supercharged 3.8 though

RSM


amj20

im looking for a 71-72 runabout to do that to.ill have to get a job as i lost mine in aug.i was just wondering is all.i love pintos and mark vii's

75bobcatv6

Hi alex, Havent heard of anyone doing it as of yet, That is what I wanted to do with mine but I dont have time right now to even attempt that one. When i do have time I will be doing this swap.

amj20

hi im alex,i was wondering if anyone has stuck a supercharged 3.8 into a pinto???if so what all did you have to modify to get the motor to work??