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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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apintonut

stock mustang 5.0 headers save time and money or speedway block huggers
74 hatch soon to be turbo 2.3
73 sedan soon to be painted
stiletto parts(4 sale)
79 pinto wagon & beentoad
wtb 75 yellow w/ black int. (rally?) like profile pic.

302PintoMan

302 roller tore down, off to the machine shop for prep after I get back from vacation.  Decided that if I am keeping her she will not have a stock 302.  Planz are a Z-cam, Parker funnel Web Intake, and all the MSD off the stock 302, plus some other goodies.  I am sure the carb and air cleaner are going to be about halfway even with the middle of the windshield due to the chop.  Should make for nasty look
a true hot rodder wouldn't be content until he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick, that the very act of pressing the throttle, could result in instant death

302PintoMan

Mine are drivers side has 1 tube that slips in, and passenger side has 2 tubes that do that. 
a true hot rodder wouldn't be content until he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick, that the very act of pressing the throttle, could result in instant death

71pintoracer

Quote from: 302PintoMan on August 01, 2010, 04:25:24 PM
Has anyone used these retarded Hedman MustangII/Pinto headers?  I have been installing them, hitting steering shaft on drivers side and I don't even WANT to talk about the other side.  Looks like I am going to have to lift the p/s of engine, remove mount, lower engine and then slide them in from teh bottom.  There HAS to be a stock exhaust manifold of something that fits!  New guy has them on the Green pinto but he didn't build it so I am SURE he doesn't know what they came off of.  Any info a help.  I had stock ones on my grey V8 Pinto but I didn't build it!

About to use gas can and lighter and fix my problem!  Or trade the bitch for a Baja Beetle!
I'm guessing that you have the headers that all four tubes go down beside the engine together. They stink! Another member on here was having the same problem with his. If you can find a '71 steering shaft they are made of a thick cable instead of a metal shaft, that will gain you some room.

My headers are made by Hooker, two tubes down by the engine, the other two go under the crossmember and they fit great and I can take them on & off with no problem. Summit sells them. I don't have any problem dragging them because they tuck up nicely in the area beside the a-arm, and my car is lowered 2".
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

russosborne

Well, the good news is you still have one of the most unique Pintos around. I actaully like the color, but then I painted every bicycle I had when I was a kid purple.

I know how you are feeling about not being told. I have been sitting here all day waiting for a guy to show up to take my stock engine and transmission and other stuff. FREE!. He was supposed to be here 9 hours ago, and not a word from him. Now I have to go cram stuff back in the garage that I thought was gone, just so I can put our car back in it. I too can understand stuff happening, but he has my number, at least call or pm here saying something has changed.

Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

Bigtimmay

i bet a set of Mustang II manifolds would clear in a pinto instead of them worthless headers.

An if you drop a SBC into that car it would put a smile on my face you guys might not like it but id take a SBC over a SBF anyday of the week.
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

RSM

just out of curiousity...whats a chooped wagon?...LOL

302PintoMan

Has anyone used these retarded Hedman MustangII/Pinto headers?  I have been installing them, hitting steering shaft on drivers side and I don't even WANT to talk about the other side.  Looks like I am going to have to lift the p/s of engine, remove mount, lower engine and then slide them in from teh bottom.  There HAS to be a stock exhaust manifold of something that fits!  New guy has them on the Green pinto but he didn't build it so I am SURE he doesn't know what they came off of.  Any info a help.  I had stock ones on my grey V8 Pinto but I didn't build it!

About to use gas can and lighter and fix my problem!  Or trade the bitch for a Baja Beetle!
a true hot rodder wouldn't be content until he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick, that the very act of pressing the throttle, could result in instant death

302PintoMan

HAH! The I should put a chevy in it name it half breed and make my sig a page long with a picture of the engine in the car!
a true hot rodder wouldn't be content until he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick, that the very act of pressing the throttle, could result in instant death

302PintoMan

a true hot rodder wouldn't be content until he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick, that the very act of pressing the throttle, could result in instant death

STREETREBEL

Thanks for everyone understanding.
I look forward to hanging out here and making new friends.
I drove 400 miles to get this little Pinto, and had a blowout on the rear
of my truck on the way home. I was in heavy traffic and almost hit 4 other
vehicle's, while trying to keep control of the truck and trailer. Me and the Pinto
finally made it home after a 14 hour road trip. But it was worth it!
My wife and I have already went cruising in it and enjoyed showing it.
It amazies me how many people don't know what it is!
Thanks again to everyone.

dga57

Quote from: 71pintoracer on August 01, 2010, 07:01:18 AM
:welcome: STREETREBEL!
In no way did we mean to come down on you for buying the car! It was the seller that was not upfront about the deal with 302PM.
Glad to have you aboard and we look forward to seeing more pics of the car.  :fastcar:
BTW 302, if you put a (gasp) chevy in one, I will come to your house and put sardines in your hubcaps!!  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Good for you, Jimmy!!!  I was thinking the same thing! :lol:

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

71pintoracer

 :welcome: STREETREBEL!
In no way did we mean to come down on you for buying the car! It was the seller that was not upfront about the deal with 302PM.
Glad to have you aboard and we look forward to seeing more pics of the car.  :fastcar:
BTW 302, if you put a (gasp) chevy in one, I will come to your house and put sardines in your hubcaps!!  :lol: :lol: :lol:
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

75bobcatv6

You should not leave the site over a misguided individual who sold you the car. No one blames you for it. its the sellers fault for messing you and him up onit. Either way you got a great little car. be proud of it

302PintoMan

Yeah I am not upset with you, hell I am not upset he sold it.  I am upset about just shooting me a text saying he MIGHT sell it and not trade.  My last text from him was "yes deal is still on there is an issue with the car.  Will call you friday night"  The "issue" was he was selling it.  Just send a text that says.  Deal is dependent on whether a cash offer I have goes thru. I can understand that.  I can NOT understand KNOWING you have a cash deal and then leading me on incase cash deal doesn't happen.

He came to my house and I was in the middle of a header swap.  He stated PENDING hearing my car run and driving it, we had a deal.  Has NOTHING to do with you at all.  This is a great site.  I DID find a local gold mine of Pintos in a field here.  Checking to see if there is a Buildable trunk model.  I have 2) 302 rollers and 3) c4's.  I will just build one.  Might even GASP put a chevy in one.
a true hot rodder wouldn't be content until he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick, that the very act of pressing the throttle, could result in instant death

blupinto

I agree with Dwayne... you're not to blame with this deal. The guy who sold it to you without a word to 302PM or you is the culprit.
Please give us a chance... there's lots of good information from great people here.  :welcome:
One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

Quote from: STREETREBEL on July 31, 2010, 11:00:48 PM
Well, for all you guys that think I bought this car out from under the other guy.
I will tell you I had no idea that there was another deal in the works.
I came here to this web site after I bought the car.
Sorry 302pintoman.
I thought this would be a cool site to hangout.

This is, indeed, a cool site to hang out.  No one is blaming you for anything... 302pintoman was kept in the dark too.  He believed he had a deal and then it suddenly fell through.  He's going through some disappointment, but no one here is blaming you for that.  We are glad you found us and look forward to your participation.

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

STREETREBEL

Quote from: RSM on July 31, 2010, 03:23:52 PM
I thought that post about the new guy with the green Pinto looked familiar. That's totally wrong when people do that crap. I don't have any respect for people like that...
Well, for all you guys that think I bought this car out from under the other guy.
I will tell you I had no idea that there was another deal in the works.
I came here to this web site after I bought the car.
Sorry 302pintoman.
I thought this would be a cool site to hangout.

302PintoMan

I SHOULD just paint the damn car and I would be fine.  The color of the car is what is sucking the fun out of it.  I have it almost ready to paint.  Maybe paint and Build me a nasty roller 302 with a Parker Funnel web intake and all will be right again.
a true hot rodder wouldn't be content until he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick, that the very act of pressing the throttle, could result in instant death

blupinto

People nowadays lack courtesy- maybe they don't like confrontation... maybe they can't give bad news. They should learn to "Man Up" or "Woman Up" instead of taking the coward's way. Honesty is the cest policy. You can tell I've been burned by cowards, huh?  :P  A couple of them I used to call friends. >:(
One can never have too many Pintos!

302PintoMan

I can totally understand cash over trade, just call a person and say...need the money more, if it doesn't sell then we will trade.  I was still installing headers so he said "Based on hearing it run we have a deal.  I will meet you halfway"  That to me says get your headers on and we are solid.
a true hot rodder wouldn't be content until he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick, that the very act of pressing the throttle, could result in instant death

RSM

I thought that post about the new guy with the green Pinto looked familiar. That's totally wrong when people do that crap. I don't have any respect for people like that...

blupinto

What a bummer!  I'm sorry the deal fell through.  :(
One can never have too many Pintos!

302PintoMan

Didn't happen he sold it and didn't even have the courtesy to let me know that he was working 2 deals at once.  Oh well.
a true hot rodder wouldn't be content until he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick, that the very act of pressing the throttle, could result in instant death

Pinto5.0

Quote from: 302PintoMan on July 27, 2010, 03:21:11 PM
Fingers crossed!  Guy is on his way.  I love my little wagon but I sure miss the hell out of the V8 Pinto trunk model I had.  This can correct a mistake I made 4 years ago!

I had a HORRIFFIC 20 year marriage....That was a MISTAKE!  :lol: :lol: Getting rid of a car you should have kept is a regret. Good to hear you got the deal made. From the pics thats a good looking trunk Id be happy to own. 8)
If only I hadn't let my mint '74 Florida hatch rot till it needed scrapped. I regret that one badly.  :(
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

302PintoMan

Trade wrapped up!  I gotta finish the new header install and then he is meeting me halfway between our places.
a true hot rodder wouldn't be content until he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick, that the very act of pressing the throttle, could result in instant death

75bobcatv6

Good luck man i hope you get it.

blupinto

Here's hoping you'll get it, and that it won't have issues you weren't told about. ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

russosborne

In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

302PintoMan

Fingers crossed!  Guy is on his way.  I love my little wagon but I sure miss the hell out of the V8 Pinto trunk model I had.  This can correct a mistake I made 4 years ago!
a true hot rodder wouldn't be content until he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick, that the very act of pressing the throttle, could result in instant death