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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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who's going to Knotts. a show of hands please

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Fred Morgan

Becky if you want you can stay in motor home, there is a large bed up front Bailey dog uses the center bed also there is a TV up front and popcorn in the microwave. Hey its the Hilton on wheels.  Fred   :lol:


                                             and we will leave the light on  ;D
Fred Morgan- Missing from us...
January 20th 1951-January 6th 2014

Beloved PCCA Parts Supplier and Friend to many.
Post your well wishes,
http://www.fordpinto.com/in-memory-of-our-fallen-pinto-heros/fred-morgan-23434/

Pangra74

My Pinto is orange....does that mean anything? :smile:
1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

Pintopower

Joe, Becky and Chris, ok I was thinking a cruise through Hollywood. I will see how that goes in regards to traffic. Sunset is a mess on saturdays but when you have a line of Pintos, who cares how slow you are going. Becky, I have a couple people crashing here so I will see if I can find you a bunk near by or if someone flakes I'll let you know. Worst case i'll just order some pizzas!
Alberto

P.S. Chris, this years color is orange... since thomas' pinto isn't running (been two years now) we will choose the color of his running Fiat.
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

chrisf1219

ok im ready got my room send for tickets this weekend got a trailer lined up and acouple vac days from wook. for us guys or gals that work nights thats a deal breaker. so im still looking for a record amount of pintos to come to the show.hofefully you socal guys and gals can start praying to the weather gods  so ti only gets up to 80 or less so we dont have to be cooked like last year :evil: so get them runnig and also free waxing at albertos and you could always bunk up with thomas. what color this year? inside joke so lets go ill see you there :fastcar:   chris
77 wagon auto 2.3  wagons are the best and who knew I like flames on a pinto!!!!

blupinto

I might be up for the Saturday cruise but I would definitely need to spend the night up there if I do.  Alberto, if I can hang at your place or somewhere else I'll help you wash and/or wax your cars. ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

Pangra74

Alberto,

I was planning on coming down Friday evening, so I'll be looking for something to do on Saturday. I'm open for a cruise....

Joe
1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

Pintopower

Ok, we are all set for Carrows in the morning.

On Sunday we should all try to get to the restaurant by 7:00. It takes about 1 hour to get through breakfast and the other things we do at breakfast.
                 
Sunday: 7:00 am meet at Carrows for breakfast and fun and games/give aways.
              8:30 am caravan to the show.
              3:00 pm show is over.
              3:30-45 pm meet at Pofolk's Restaurant to relax and ponder the days wonderful activities.

Here is a link for the mapquest map on where Carrows & PoFolk's Restaurants are.

Carrows
8650 Beach Boulevard
Buena Park, CA 90620-3954
(714) 826-4280

http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Buena+Park&state=CA&address=8650+Beach+Blvd&zipcode=90620

Pofolk's Restaurant (look for the massive Movieland Wax Museum sign)
7701 Beach Boulevard
Buena Park, CA 90620-1934
(714) 521-8955

http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Buena+Park&state=CA&address=7701+Beach+Blvd&zipcode=90620-1934&country=US&latitude=33.851308&longitude=-117.998036&geocode=ADDRESS

Saturday is still free if anyone has any idea. I want to do a Sunset Blvd cruise like last year so let me know if anyone is down. So far I will be at my house cleaning cars! If any one has a question, please email turbopinto72 or me.
Alberto
626-221-7681
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

pintogirl

Looks like I may only  be able to bring one car to Knotts.  :( Hubby measured the trucks down at our friends business and they are to short to put the Ghost on. Our trailer only hauls one car. I tried to convince Hubby to borrow a tow truck from his work, but he doesn't want to put that many miles on one of them. They get enough miles just around town.

So the only way we can bring both is to either find a trailer that will haul two, that won't need extra brakes on it or, I will have to drive one and hubby tow the other. We are tossing that option back and forth but, 1, we don't know how well the squire will run (should know by then) and 2, I'm just not sure I want to make the trip in 2 different vehicles. Part of the fun is riding together and looking at all the peeps giving us thumbs up on the Ghost!!!  ;D

For now I am going to just send in my registration papers for the Ghost. I still have time to print another one out and send it off for Bella if we find a way to take her!


Cant wait for the show though!!!! Oh, and I am bringing my patio umbrella this year!!! I don't care what the rules say!!!! LOL ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

Fred Morgan

Thanks for help I am good to go now, have a person that has vacation house were I live said I could park in front of his house 2 blocks away from Knott's, he does not own a Pinto but he knows I have many.  Fred   :) :)

Any 1 need any part's can bring to Knott's FREE shipping take advantage.
Fred Morgan- Missing from us...
January 20th 1951-January 6th 2014

Beloved PCCA Parts Supplier and Friend to many.
Post your well wishes,
http://www.fordpinto.com/in-memory-of-our-fallen-pinto-heros/fred-morgan-23434/

turbopinto72

Good Job Steve !!!  ;D  ;D  ;D

Ok Guys, bring them and get them signed................
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Srt

Pangra Owners/Enthusiasts
A reply to a conversation with Jack Stratton earlier today:

"...Steve,

I am, frankly, overwhelmed by this offer. Thanks to all of those
involved with the offer.
I think the best for all would be to meet @ the Knotts thing.

I do have to laugh sometimes at your emails. They seem to paint me as
some sort of recluse. Not to worry. I am readily available to all that
wish to speak to me. Feel free to send my email address to anyone that you
think wants it. I do prefer to email you personally as you can see, I
don't respond promptly to emails.

As mentioned previously, my time now is taken by our relocation and so
computer time seems to be limited to very late in the day. I have been
trying to remember and find the time to call you on your days off, but can't
seem to get there. I will make a concentrated effort sometime this week to
do so.

Take care,
Jack
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

Srt

I am looking to find a couple of guys from the early to middle '70's that were 'dabbling' in Pintos during that time frame.


  • George Spears
  • Mike Chrisman

George Spears was the force behind Spearco & Mike Chrisman (spelling?) is from an 'old' drag racing family.

Any leads please e-mail me directly.  Thanks
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

Srt

Quote from: Pintopower on January 19, 2010, 01:16:53 AM
".....Bipper, Barth will never enter the computer age. ...."

Well, I wish he would.  I see him driving east on Washington Blvd every so often at 1130 pm or so on my way home from work.  I'd like to get his attention. I want to see his car.  It's cool!

You reading this BArth?


the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

Pangra74

Sent in my registration and made hotel arrangements at the Knotts Hotel. I have a buddy with a white, '64 Galaxie convertible who I talked into going as well. Now I have to go......

Joe
1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

Fred Morgan

Thanks Alberto to go that far I either got to trailer it to Sears or come up with some tire money, I still have some time. Have P245 50R 14 on rear seems hard to find on computer.  Fred   :)
Fred Morgan- Missing from us...
January 20th 1951-January 6th 2014

Beloved PCCA Parts Supplier and Friend to many.
Post your well wishes,
http://www.fordpinto.com/in-memory-of-our-fallen-pinto-heros/fred-morgan-23434/

Pintopower

Joe, I gave Paul a bunch of applications. I dont know if you see him. I am in San Jose right now if you wanna come buy and get a few! I'll be here until Thursday morning. I don't know if thats close to you. Send me the link so I can email the usual people.

Pintopower@hotmail.com

Alberto
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

Srt

Quote from: Fred Morgan on January 26, 2010, 10:47:41 AM
How about in front on the street.  Fred   :)

Apartments nearby make it so even I can 't park in front of my own home most of the time.   :(
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

Pangra74

I got the registration online. Will send in asap.
Hopefully my new (used) 8 inch rear will go in painlessly next week....
Joe
1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

Pangra74

Alberto,

I haven't received any e-mails regarding registration. Is there a web link? I'm going to plan on being there for the weekend and check on rooms tonight.

Joe
1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

Pintopower

Fred, my driveway will be packed with cars BUT the street might work. Also, I will ask Barth as he is on a very calm street. Mine is super busy. I am about 20 min from the show but every year were all caravan there from my house! I will let you know!

Becky, Half the ton? Shut up! You were great to meet and we had a blast with you there! Good juju? Well you got it!
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

Fred Morgan

How about in front on the street.  Fred   :)
Fred Morgan- Missing from us...
January 20th 1951-January 6th 2014

Beloved PCCA Parts Supplier and Friend to many.
Post your well wishes,
http://www.fordpinto.com/in-memory-of-our-fallen-pinto-heros/fred-morgan-23434/

Srt

Quote from: Fred Morgan on January 25, 2010, 05:44:49 PM
if some 1 close to Knott's will let me park motor home in there driveway for 2 night's I will give them FREE Pinto part's. I am all self contained quiet and dont need anything, be out Monday AM.  Fred   :)

Fred I live in Whittier which is just a few minutes away and  if I had a driveway you would most certainly be welcome.  But the alley would be an insult and a one way ticket to a tow.
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

blupinto

Alberto, it was a pleasure to meet you and your family. Also, it was a pleasure to meet people who share my Pinto Passion. Alberto, I wished I had met you 7 or 8 years ago when I had money...you guys wouldnt've been the only Pintos there! lol.

Yeah, there were a ton of people at the after-show dinner... I was half the ton! YUK! I'll hopefully be, er, less robust by showtime and have a car that'll make it there! ;D  I need some good strong JuJu! :D
One can never have too many Pintos!

Pintopower

Oh! Good Kim! We had a ton of people that joined us for our yearly after show party last year!!! I already made the reservations for the restaurant! I will post the info for that so you all can join us! I will also hand out flyers this year after the show to make it a bit easier to get to.

I am so happy about how well this show is going! I remember when me, my sister, Jimmy, his Dad and Racer X were the only ones there seven years ago! It took  a lot of hard work (runs, BBQ's. Xmas parties, meeting, road trips) and leaving cards on peoples pintos (I have gone through 1000 cards already!) to get them to come out and see what a huge group of devoted folks we all are! It may have been a ton of work but meeting new Pinto lovers like Becky, Leonard, Mike, Dave, Joe, Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian (seriously, no more Brians) Tony, Jim, Ed, Bill, Steve, Randy, Bob, Bob, Bob (ok, no more Bobs either) Sandy, Kim, Jennifer, Chris, Chris, Chris, Chris (COME on now! Confusing!) etc.... You guys make it all worth it! Can't wait to see you all and some more newbies!

Alberto
Pintopower
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

pintogirl

Ok, I made my room reservations at the Knott's Hotel!!!! I have to for Sat, Sun, and Monday!! So we should be able to party after the show with you all this year!!!!!  ;D ;D

Now I just need to get the registration sent in! Have to wait at least another week or so for that though! Need to make sure Bella is going to perform right!!  ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

Fred Morgan

if some 1 close to Knott's will let me park motor home in there driveway for 2 night's I will give them FREE Pinto part's. I am all self contained quiet and dont need anything, be out Monday AM.  Fred   :)
Fred Morgan- Missing from us...
January 20th 1951-January 6th 2014

Beloved PCCA Parts Supplier and Friend to many.
Post your well wishes,
http://www.fordpinto.com/in-memory-of-our-fallen-pinto-heros/fred-morgan-23434/

blupinto

YAY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!!


OK Kimmy let's talk about that Squire's name... lol.  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

pintogirl

Wooo hoooo!!! It is official! We are going to Knotts again this year!!!!

It looks like we may be bringing 2 cars to the show!!!!! The Ghost and Bella!!! Hubby is going to work on getting a truck and trailer to haul them both down there!! Yes, my baby's are trailer queens and proud of it!! I don't want to put them through such a long trip!!  ;D

I'm going to wait a bit to make sure all goes well with Bella before I send off my registration. Once she is comfirmed a good runner, I will send it in!!

Can't wait!!!!  ;D ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

vonkysmeed

Just got my entry and will send it in this week.

Lots to do though.

302 is out and sold, 351 is in pieces, but short block is all shiny and ready for build.  Wiring will be done and new legal fuel cell will be in. 

Glad it is in late April, I will need the time.

It will drive this year and not be on a trailer. 

SO far been in 2 magazines last year.  Car and Craft in their cruising article and in Grassroots Motorsports in readers rides.  Hope to have a better looking car with more parts on it this year.
73 Pinto Runabout
351w from 74 galaxie
Heads from 69 Mercury Cougar
82 Mustang GT SROD Transmission and driveshaft
Mustang II rear end with Fairmont 3rd member
6 point cage

Pintopower

Sorry Brad, I didn't know that. I've been booking that place since '03. I guess we have always been double booking. Better two reservations than none. Let me know if you need anything. I just emailed 50 Pinto owners in the surrounding area plus I called and mailed out the new flyers to those without internet. I will find out about the bag stuffing. Everyones help last year was great! RacerX or Pushthepinto will get back to me with the details.
Alberto
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.