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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Modern Pinto, will it ever be?

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Quote from: blupinto on December 17, 2009, 04:06:23 PM
I saw something interesting yesterday while browsing on ebay- a business card holder with a Pinto on it. The kicker is, it looks modern-day! It has a sticker or tag that says "Ford Officially Licensed Product". It's hella cool! Perhaps Ford is toying with the idea of reintroducing the Pinto. They're not above putting its likeness on merchandise.
that came from ford about 3yrs ago as they released a few pinto  items on there web site.
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Norman Bagi

Didn't you hear, Pinto owners are among the richest people in the nation.  :lol: Just not financialy.  :mad:

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dave1987

Great words pintoman!

Funny thing about going to the mall....

I had to park at the back of the huge parking lot at the Boise Town Square Mall this x-mas season to do some shopping.

Forgetting what row I was in, I began the hunt for my car. For the love of my life I could not seem to find my little Pinto!! Even though it always stands out with it's big aluminum bumpers against the metallic blue paint, I could not find the darn car!!

I found out how hard it was to find a short little sub-compact car in a lot full of SUVs. :(
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I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

pintoman2.0

Interesting posts here, my observations:

When I go to the mall, which isn't very often, I never have a problem finding one of my Pintos. They are almost always the only one in a sea of black, silver or white nondescript lumps of ?. And if there is another one when I come in I will do everything I can to park next to it. Have met some good Pinto fanatics that way.

As to venture capitalists, Dynacorn comes to mind. I think they are making Cameros and Challengers now as well as Mustangs. Let's see what we can do with them.

Ford has worked hard to make Mustang the longest continuous running marque so I agree that letting the Pinto go before it became something that even we wouldn't want was for the best.

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Norman Bagi

Yeh we had a post like this one beforem, so I WIll reiderate my previous statement.  Had the pinto not been killed off the new Ford Escort in 1981 would have had a Ford Pinto Badge, it would not have been the same car anymore, times would have seen to that.  So as far as I am concerned, the Pinto left with its integrity and style before the designers turned it into the Ford Chevette.

blupinto

I saw something interesting yesterday while browsing on ebay- a business card holder with a Pinto on it. The kicker is, it looks modern-day! It has a sticker or tag that says "Ford Officially Licensed Product". It's hella cool! Perhaps Ford is toying with the idea of reintroducing the Pinto. They're not above putting its likeness on merchandise.
One can never have too many Pintos!

popbumper

Quote from: Carolina Boy on December 16, 2009, 08:35:11 PM
With thing as they are, it would be an electric car, called the Green Pinto or hybridto, and have so many computer controled @#%& all over it. Let's pool our money and buy the rights and build ourself Pinto Motor Company, LTD.

"Pool WHAT money"?

Chris
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dave1987

I like CB's idea! :D Would be happy to be part of PMC! :)

I agree with everyone else's comments as well, the Pinto deserves much more attention than it gets, and much more recognition. It's a big part of automotive history, along with it's competitors like the Pacer. I feel that these cars boomed the small car industry.
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Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Carolina Boy

With thing as they are, it would be an electric car, called the Green Pinto or hybridto, and have so many computer controled @#%& all over it. Let's pool our money and buy the rights and build ourself Pinto Motor Company, LTD.
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

blupinto

I think this topic came up before. Loving the Ford Pinto since I was knee high to a filly foal I would welcome the reintroduction of this well-loved little car. In fact, when I was going to San Bernardino Valley College in 1997 I saw an Escort ZX2 and the Pinto immediately came to mind. I even looked for filly insignia! If Ford can't bring the Pinto name back, maybe they can at least bring back the kicking foal emblem. In my humble opinion I think if they ever resurrect the Ford Pinto they should keep the bodies. Compared to the modern-day cars I'm surrounded by, my Pintos have sleek lines and the lovely tapered front ends.


       As for the "blow up" thing, you need to remember- Pintos didn't "blow up". Some unfortunately ignited and burst into flames, but other cars did that too. The early Mustangs had infernosis (my invention) problems when they rolled in accidents but you don't see the disdain aimed at those cars (I love them too).
One can never have too many Pintos!

Pintosopher

Quote from: dave1987 on December 16, 2009, 12:07:33 AM
Does anyone think that maybe after the 2011 show we might get enough attention to resurrect the Pinto?

I'm doubting it, but hey, it's a modern car I would buy!

After all, the charger and challenger are back, as well as the Camaro and the Thunderbird!

It would take A LOT of interest in a new Pinto for it to sell, but I think with the same roots of ideas Ford had in mind with the production of the Pinto, it might possibly succeed.

One thing that holds it back, I think, is that to many people still remember only one thing about the Pinto...The one that exploded. Without knowing the truth to the fact, and that several other Ford cars were prone to the exact same problem, I don't think the "exploding Pinto" comments will ever cease.

It might be more realistic to find out if the Presence of a Large contingent of Pintos at Carlisle would trip the Interest of Venture capitalists who would Underwrite the cost of Buying up the reproduction rights to the Pinto design from FoMoCo.
Then a company could be formed to Recreate the Body stampings and Re certify the car parts for restoration purposes. This would eliminate the Rusted hulk scrappage AND MAKE ALL Year model pintos worth saving. Would you invest in restoration Like the Porsche 356 Groups do? I've seen a tub come out of the acid bath looking like swiss cheese, and then the sheet metal stampings are welded up to a jig and the car lives on with Original VIN.
  To be realistic, a restored 356 is worth about 50+ k depending on model and history, easily pushing 100k for a rare Carrera. Does the Pinto  warrant such consideration? It's all about economics and subject to demand. There will never be a Ford Pinto Modern version, but it could rise up as a Kit Car.

My 2 cents,
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dave1987

Well that about sums up this thread. How about we move it onto......What would you think if they WERE to bring back the Pinto?
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Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

71pintoracer

According to my sources at FoMoCo the Pinto name will never be used again.  :(
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

78txpony

I highly doubt it...  :(
I know the Pinto name would never be used again, since the media has tarnished it for life.  Any car will blow up if in the right wreck, especially when hit at high speeds.  I have heard of lots of toyo-trash burst into flames this way.

Now it would be nice to see the Pinto body style again.  Being it is a bit bubble shaped, it should fit right in.  However, if it is meant to be retro, it will be expensive.  Look at the new VW bug... The original intent in the 50's was to be affordable by all, but the new one was clearly not.

Hopefully the body style would be recreated and with a spiffy name also. 
The new econo cars are so ugly, it's pathetic.  The Pinto style would be welcomed...
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It'll be a Pinto in name only, so why fret it?
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dave1987

Does anyone think that maybe after the 2011 show we might get enough attention to resurrect the Pinto?

I'm doubting it, but hey, it's a modern car I would buy!

After all, the charger and challenger are back, as well as the Camaro and the Thunderbird!

It would take A LOT of interest in a new Pinto for it to sell, but I think with the same roots of ideas Ford had in mind with the production of the Pinto, it might possibly succeed.

One thing that holds it back, I think, is that to many people still remember only one thing about the Pinto...The one that exploded. Without knowing the truth to the fact, and that several other Ford cars were prone to the exact same problem, I don't think the "exploding Pinto" comments will ever cease.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!