Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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78pinto

there is a fellow at www.turboford.org who sells very nice custom made turbo headers for the pinto that will allow it to be moved further forward if your interested.
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80bobcat

Well after banging the metal in the fender area to make room for the turbo..exaust,etc.. the engine sat back even further and now I know why the heater motor is removed entirely..it`s just in the way...so while I`m waiting for the strut bushings (1st 2 were sent back..only sent the male part (Moog)) I opted for TRW..but I`m told they own Moog..anyways hoping to get the set this time..I`m not looking forward to doing this part..I just don`t bend like I used to....lmao   ;D
Look Officer..it`s a Pinto would YOU stop short?

crazyhorse

Looks like your heater will blow REALLY hot air! Most turbo conversions do away with the heater all together. When you get this working I'd love to see it. I'm betting a heat shield is in order to keep the blower motor from literally burning up!
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80bobcat

oops this is the too close but gonna try it
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80bobcat

too close but gonna try
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80bobcat

trial fit
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80bobcat

whats going there...in da place
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80bobcat

the place it`s going
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80bobcat

the doner
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80bobcat

Hey all....anybody put tubular control arms on?..mine are supposed to be direct replacements but I`m having trouble. the  strut bar that attaches to the lower control arm the nuts wont fit to secure it.. the arm itself gets in the way of threading them on..all I can think of doing is popping the studs out putting in longer ones then using a spacer..then I looked at the old one and see a bracket that circles the ball joint and reinforces this section..where the strut bar attaches..I`m thinking I have to do both..reinforce this section and use longer studs with spacers. anybody do this? any hints?  am I on the right path?.......thanks
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80bobcat

Thanks `77 I`ll try that.....the stud I`m referring to is on the exaust turn down where the rest of the exaust connects to...it`s sitting on the inside fender right now but the scratches will leave me a nice mark as to where to drill...for now though I gotta try and get the new spring in and then paint the engine bay..mayby play with the camera some...lol
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77turbopinto

I just set my camera at the low quality setting and it works fine for posting. What stud?

Bill
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80bobcat

Thanks for the hints Pintony....Well I got the engine in..it`s not sitting proper yet though..needs the hole for the exaust stud..and the exaust turn down just clears the hvac motor..so mayby I can leave it in ,..I figure after i drill a hole for the stud I may get more clearance there...the heat will cook the hvac motor but either way I wont have one..
On another post I read that i have to resize my pics to get them posted here..I`ve searched everywhere..pulled every pull down I could find on any and every screen and still can`t find how to resize my pics...any hints? It`s probably real simple but i`m so puter illiterate that I wonder how i get back here sometimes..
     
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Pintony

Hey 80 bobcat,
When doing the cherry picker thing.
Sometimes it helps to deflate the front tires.
Gives a bit more clearance.
Also do not use the hook at the end of the crain.
Take the hook off and put the chain attached to the engine through the bolt
at the end of the arm.
From Pintony

80bobcat

Hey all....thanks for asking... the tranny was sent out.. shift kit and some extra clutch plates going in ..so in the mean time I figured the tubulars can go in ..but the spring refuses to fit..as soon as it get close to position the whole car lifts off the jack stand..I probably need the weight of the engine..so with that said I think I`m ready to trial fit the motor and get the spring in also..I only did the r/side so it looks bad with the sag..started to clean and degrease the engine bay..but this stuff (release all cleaner) is taking most of the rustproofing off .one more cleaning and that`ll be enough..the hvac motor still needs to come out but I`m gonna try to sit the motor down on the mounts...I know I`m not posting many Q`s yet.. but I read the posts of those like you who blazed the trail before me and find most of the info I need..on another note..Tues. I pick the tranny up ..put it into the wheelbarrow ..place it in the pick-up drive to my buddies place..put it on his bench..get back home..bend over to tie my shoe and bam!! throw my back out...go figure..oh and i got me a digital camera took some pics but can`t post them..best i can figure is that the files are too large..I know it can be done but how?.....later
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77turbopinto

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80bobcat

 ;D  finally got some time...engine and tranny is out..oh and bringing the cherry picker to the car...bad idea..got everything half way out and reached the limit on how high the picker would go ..it sunk in so we couldn`t pull ..so the tranny came off in a very akward position..best to send it out for a look see..now I gotta see what i`ll need.. get it off cleaned and put on the turbo..some suspension work then I`ll see about fitting the turbo...slow going and going slow..I`ll get there just don`t know when...lol   ;D
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80bobcat

 ;D  I think Darwin`s theory is working in reverse for me...went to remove the turn down on the exhaust and 4 of the 5 bolts broke ..no he-man stuff they just gave way..better to find out now rather than after..idle hands.. now I gotta beg borrow or steal some tools..1st weekend I`m off.. the motor in the Bobcat is coming out then I`ll get it into the garage
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77turbopinto

Darwin has a theory about this thread.


Bill
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turbopinto72

Hey, I thought this thread was about "carbbed turbos................ ;D Jeff go to chat
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77turbopinto

pic.  Not as bad as it looks, really, very easy. Note my kick down, hooks to the stock arm on the tranny.
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77turbopinto

pic Turbo and heat sheild. The sheild is about .5" away from the firewall.
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77turbopinto

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77turbopinto

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80bobcat

Thanks Bill....well I`m just sitting here collecting parts etc....gonna go with tubular arms..they arrived Tues.  ..I put the pully`s on just to see and noticed right off that they didn`t line up so I mixed and matched them.. looks like it`ll work Alt. bracket is coming from the Bobcat.. had to cut & grind a little off a corner to get it clear of the intake. Since I can`t move the car I`m bringing the hoist to it... It`ll be easier to pull outof the field after I get the engine out.The Merkur is also just sitting out there..a friend of my son wants it..I told him to wait..make sure i got all I need first.I gots a few Q`s to ask but they`ll wait till I get to that point where I need to know.lol..cause when I look at the whole project..nope..1 step at a time....lol...I started to look at the center mount header to clear the heater motor but the exaust turn down look like it`ll interfere with it..with our damp humid summers here even a summer only car needs air flow to the windshield. This weekend i`ll start taking the rest of the parts off..just hope it`s not windy..
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77turbopinto

Good luck with the project. There is not much to hook up with the harness. Do you still have the donor cars? I did mine less than a year ago, I will give you pointers if I can, just ask.

Bill
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80bobcat

Just a quik update..engine is almost done..but I parked the Bobcat in the field.. no hood..it snowed.. now won`t start..turns over real nice ..just won`t catch..not that it matters it`s still socked in with drifts..warm days just makes it soggy out there and the car..she`s a sinking...what can go wrong will!!!!
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80bobcat

hi all..quite the absence..been busy though.. just not on the bobcat...lol..seemed like everytime the car went out it got dinged or banged or something so my priority was to get the car off the road..so after finding a car then getting the saftey etc...and so on...well anyways now that the cold has settled in probably for the remainder of the winter I can now turn my attention back on the swap..so with a rebuild kit ordered I still have to replace the head..and now with the bobcat parked I can start getting it ready for the transplant.
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SVOwagon

I'll take some of the wiring and of the vacuum lines. I know that most of my vacuum lines are no longer the way they were when the motor was in the thunderbird. Mostly got rid of lines that are not needed. I'm also going to take pics of my trans mount and crossmember. When putting in a T5, these parts have to be modified. I'm thinking that all these new pics will be added to my site and I'll let you all know when that is done.
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80bobcat

SVO..thanks and I`m with Tigger.. more pics would be great!!.. and because i broke most of the vacumn conectors  I`ll be looking at those...I`m getting the engine back tomorrow...he says i got a cracked head(wife tells me that all the time  ;D) but the rest checks out good..wants $1200. to replace repair and assemble .a little steep so i`ll get it back and see what i can do..our plant is shut down the 1st week of the new year so i`ll have time to look around for some deals...so with that i`ll wish everyone Happy Holidays
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