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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Postal Pinto

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sedandelivery

I just came across this old post. I had 3 Postal Pintos, I have one left that has suffered mightily from the PA. rust worm. I am always looking for another one, If anyone sees one for sale, let me know! My present Pinto is a former telephone company maintenance truck. My next Postal Pinto will be kept away from salt.

Tercin

In response to fleet Pintos. I remember riding in a Gov't owned Pinto on Vandenberg AFB in the early eighties. It was a rust color complete with gov't decals on the doors and gov't plates. I know the GSA auctions all of their old cars, no doubt some of these are still around.

Tercin
The only Pinto I have
73 Sports Accent
Rust free California Car

postalpony

Sorry--I should have stated that it was the front of the wheel well at the
very bottom.  I just used a body hammer to roll the edge toward the front
of the car, it only took about 3/8 if an inch. I hope this helps.
Thanks for your comment.

                     Dick
1980 Hatchback was a "Postal Unit" on the
west coast in it's early life. Now residing
in Ohio, But we don't haul the U.S. Mail anymore;
Now all we do is HAUL!
5th gear 4700 rpm & still pullin'= 113+  mph

UPDATE-83.762 mph in 4th gear As verified by a W Va State Trooper-WITH 1 GEAR TO GO 6-2-11

dick1172762

How did you move the fender lip, with the inter fender shield in place? Did you go to early Pinto shields? Great looking car.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

postalpony

First of all the stripes are computer generated, but in the future I hope to
have it done right with real paint! Chris-The wheels are American Racing
Outlaw II 14x7 4/4.25 bolt circle with 4" backspace.  The tires are 215/60-14
Firestone Indy 500's. I had to "massage" the lower lip of the fender for more
clearance.  If anyone is interested I have a new set of 4 that I was going to
put on my '80 T-Bird, but I sold it. e-mail & we will do details.
Smallfryefarm--Thank you Sir for your comment!

                  Best to all   Dick
1980 Hatchback was a "Postal Unit" on the
west coast in it's early life. Now residing
in Ohio, But we don't haul the U.S. Mail anymore;
Now all we do is HAUL!
5th gear 4700 rpm & still pullin'= 113+  mph

UPDATE-83.762 mph in 4th gear As verified by a W Va State Trooper-WITH 1 GEAR TO GO 6-2-11

blupinto

Quote from: dholvrsn on November 06, 2009, 09:36:50 PM
I'm somewhat interested too since I work for the USPS.

I've heard about the '77 Postal Pintos and have been hold that the Post Office bought some Pintos and Gremlins because AM General couldn't make enough Postal Jeeps that year.

I also remember seeing some red '79 or '80 Fire Marshall Pintos but have been told that I'm crazy because they are suppose to get hand me down police cruisers.


WOW! I learn something new every day. I didn't know Fire Marshals drove them too. Cool!
One can never have too many Pintos!

smallfryefarm

that is a sweet looking car
Smallfryefarms Horsepower Ranch

dholvrsn

I'm somewhat interested too since I work for the USPS.

I've heard about the '77 Postal Pintos and have been hold that the Post Office bought some Pintos and Gremlins because AM General couldn't make enough Postal Jeeps that year.

I also remember seeing some red '79 or '80 Fire Marshall Pintos but have been told that I'm crazy because they are suppose to get hand me down police cruisers.
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popbumper

BTW - LOVE those wheels - they look GREAT on your car, wow.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

postalpony

Hello all  Iam glad to see someone else remembers that the USPS used our fine little rides.  My 'Postalpony' came via ne Ohio, somewhere in Pa. from out in
Nevada, & who knows where! The build tag looks as follows--
0483  30E  64B  CAL   AB
A198471  9D     WHIT
    BA      BW
  PG    10       AT
POSTAL UNIT
RH MIRROR        If anyone can read this code please let me know as I am in doubt as what some things mean. White-AT-Postalunit-serial #-& RH mirror are all self explanatory. The rest I don't know. Thanks you PINTO nuts
    Dick Mathias
1980 Hatchback was a "Postal Unit" on the
west coast in it's early life. Now residing
in Ohio, But we don't haul the U.S. Mail anymore;
Now all we do is HAUL!
5th gear 4700 rpm & still pullin'= 113+  mph

UPDATE-83.762 mph in 4th gear As verified by a W Va State Trooper-WITH 1 GEAR TO GO 6-2-11

phils toys

i have been told the local phone company at&t at the time had a fleet of pinto wagons  non window a local guy bought alot of them and resold them  they were white  as well.
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

Pintosopher

Becky,
It would appear to even the most light hearted person that you may be in Friday self-destruct mode ;). Now may I suggest a Stiff Kahlua & Coffee, or similar drink, and Then ... Off to the Hot Tub! ;D ;D :drunk:

Pintosopher, Going Postal any way he can :drunk:
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

blupinto

No, the post I attempted to post is still gone. @$##$^&^*& 'puter or the site (I've lost other posts on this site in the past- where the page says "You've Already Submitted this Post. You might've Double-Clicked (I didn't) or Clicked Refresh." I had another post right after the post that ends "I saw these cars in San Diego, CA." I'll retype it. Sigh.

    What I had said in the lost post was that as far back as the early to mid-'90s the National Guard Armory (I said U.S. Armory in lost post) in Kearny Mesa (Remember that tank rampage in 1995? The nutcase stole a tank from that armory and went berserk til he was shot while on the freeway with his ill-gotten weapon) had a few dark green metallic 4-door Mavericks and possibly a Pinto or two pressed into service. As far as I know, around here City, State, County and probably Federal Gov't vehicles go up for auction.
One can never have too many Pintos!

Pintosopher

Quote from: blupinto on November 06, 2009, 03:42:29 PM
Joe, as much as I'd love to buy all the Pintos the Smog Year Pintos I wouldn't and couldn't afford, but if AT&T is anything like CalTrans, they would've sold them at auction when it became time to renew the fleet. Flash- there might have been white sedans and/or Runabouts (some of it's coming back to me) I don't remember them having the big grilles like '79-'80s. I do remember the dark green metallic ones with U.S. Post Office in white lettering on the doors. For what this is worth, the PO I saw therse cars at is in San Diego, CA.
Becky ,
I share your sorrow, I too, would buy them all! :(  But I'm going to investigate anyway. I'm prone to looking for lost treasures, and I've done more research than I care to admit on Things Like: Where is James Dean's 356 Super Speedster, ( The one he traded in on the 550RS he was killed in) the reward would be at least a 25K finders fee. On the remains of the Wreck..$ 1 Million from  the Volo Auto Museum.

Indiana Groans, auto archaeologist apprentice ;D
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

blupinto

Joe, as much as I'd love to buy all the Pintos the Smog Year Pintos I wouldn't and couldn't afford, but if AT&T is anything like CalTrans, they would've sold them at auction when it became time to renew the fleet. Flash- there might have been white sedans and/or Runabouts (some of it's coming back to me) I don't remember them having the big grilles like '79-'80s. I do remember the dark green metallic ones with U.S. Post Office in white lettering on the doors. For what this is worth, the PO I saw therse cars at is in San Diego, CA.
One can never have too many Pintos!

flash041

The one I rember were white 1980 runabouts.There were used at the time to replace the jeeps that they were using back then.My motherinlaw was a postmaster at the time and said the USPS did reshearch and found that the Pinto was the best replacment for the jeep.
1978 Pinto Cruising wagon (I am the original owner ! ) Built Aug 15th 1977 in NJ
1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

Pintosopher

Quote from: flash041 on November 06, 2009, 03:09:43 AM
Its 3am,one of those nights I cant sleep.and for whatever reason I thought that why havenent I ever heard a discussion or seen on line any thing about the Pinto's used by the U S Postal service.They were 1980 models used for delivery vehicles.About 15 years ago I had a friend that had a couple of them.Does any one have one? 
I haven't seen a Postal Wagon, But I do recall seeing a 79-80 panel wagon at the Pacific Bell main office in Sacto with PacBell Logos in 1998. My wife works for ATT and I hope the cars weren't Scrapped with the Fleet rotation. You might want to check around with your (formerly known "Baby Bell")phone Co.
Are you listening Kim & Becky? ;D :lost: :D
Anyone have connections with Ford corporate fleet sales? As in records of who bought these gems?

Now I Want one too ! :o :o :-\

Pintosopher, Looking to restart the Pinto Empire...
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

blupinto

Quote from: flash041 on November 06, 2009, 03:09:43 AM
Its 3am,one of those nights I cant sleep.and for whatever reason I thought that why havenent I ever heard a discussion or seen on line any thing about the Pinto's used by the U S Postal service.They were 1980 models used for delivery vehicles.About 15 years ago I had a friend that had a couple of them.Does any one have one? 



I don't mean to be nit-picky but when I was a kid I remember seeing the dark green metallic Pintos at the post office but they had '77-'78 grilles and they were sedans or Runabouts. I was a Pinto freak even then so I noticed things like that.  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

phils toys

postal pony "dick" lives near Columbus OH. last i knew he was trying to get postal decals  to finish the restor  He was able to find some pic of a postal car so he could use them as templates
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

jimspinto

Quote from: Tercin on November 06, 2009, 06:56:39 AM
There is a member on here that goes by Postal Pony, he has one.
------------------------------------------------

  And I think this "Postal Guy" just might be a "Red Neck" also (hee hee hee hee)

  Hey Dick how are you doing ? As you probably know, I'm not doing that good.  Same as you, I'm not sleeping that well, and pretty much living on "Pain Killers"
  Email me, for updates and / or details.... Jim

----------------------------------------------------

Tercin

There is a member on here that goes by Postal Pony, he has one.
The only Pinto I have
73 Sports Accent
Rust free California Car

flash041

Its 3am,one of those nights I cant sleep.and for whatever reason I thought that why havenent I ever heard a discussion or seen on line any thing about the Pinto's used by the U S Postal service.They were 1980 models used for delivery vehicles.About 15 years ago I had a friend that had a couple of them.Does any one have one? 
1978 Pinto Cruising wagon (I am the original owner ! ) Built Aug 15th 1977 in NJ
1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible