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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

What bellhousing for 2.3/T5 pinto conversion?

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lugnut

Thanks to all:
I will look for a t-5 bell & trans from a fox Mustang 2.3 The trans in my donor T-bird grinds first gear sometimes, so I may as well pick up another tranny while I'm at it.
thx again!
mike

Quote from: turbo74pinto on March 08, 2010, 07:23:11 PM
that would be the easiest way, but lugnuts donor car is an 87 t bird which is a hydrolic clutch set up.

bob

turbo74pinto

that would be the easiest way, but lugnuts donor car is an 87 t bird which is a hydrolic clutch set up.

bob
Take a job big or small, do it right or not at all.

flash041

seems to me if I was doing this conversion I would just get a t5 from a fox body Mustang with the 2.3.I know there are lots of them out there.Last year I swaped out my A4LD in my 93 Mustang 2.3 , for a T5. I found at least four cars in local junkyards.So I am sure they are the most plentiful car to get every thing from.I got the trans,bellhousing ,flywheel,clutch pedals and driveshaft for $250.
1978 Pinto Cruising wagon (I am the original owner ! ) Built Aug 15th 1977 in NJ
1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

turbo74pinto

ohsix,

ive heard the same about the tailshaft housings.  but, i think you have the apps backwards.  fox chassis cars have the shifter at the end of the tailshaft while the s10 is right behind the main case. 

this is the s10 box:



bob
Take a job big or small, do it right or not at all.

turbo74pinto

ohsix, 

i understood, but with so many variations of the t5 through several automakers, they are easy to confuse.  id hate to see someone pick up a 2wd jeep t5 and wonder why it wouldnt fit the ford bell.  some may think a t5 is a t5.

bob
Take a job big or small, do it right or not at all.

OhSix9

Bob,
didn't intend to cause any confusuion when i said they are all ten spline inputs.   was only refering to the common sources for 2.3 trans but wanted to mention the clutch differences between turbo and non.  V8 models have a different diameter input shaft stub that does not mate to the pilot bearing on the 4's  so without machining they wont work and why bother with a unit from a chebby.

to further complicate things, if my memory is correct i believe you can take the tail shaft of an s10 unit and swap it onto the reg tbid/fox body one.  this will relocate the shifter further back eliminating the need to cut the floor. ( did this on a v8 5 spd m2 back in the day).

world class is an internal only change relating to better syncros and more bearings instead of bushings etc etc. i thing the '84 reference is right but no doubt about any fox with aero headlights should be w/c

OhSix'
Modest beginnings start with the single blow of a horn man..    Now when you get through with this thing every dickhead in the world is gonna wanna own it.   Do you know anything at all about the internal combustion engine?

Virgil to Sid

pintowagon77

If anyone wants to call me about info (541 260 1413)... its hard to list every specific tid bit of info for different questions. I got a couple leads on two t-5 out of a 86 and a 88 t-bird, both 2.3 turbos. This the exact car i used and everything from the bellhousing to the driveline yoke worked. Also they are WC trannys.
Contact any time for info or parts.

turbo74pinto

Quote from: pintowagon77 on March 05, 2010, 09:22:45 AM
quality world class Borg Warner t-5 are a little harder to hook up but so few people have them I think they complicate themhttp://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/09/t5swap/

i dont understand, the world class and nonworld class run the same case.  differences are inside, not outside. im pretty sure all fords ran a world  class trans after 84.  the first link below is the t5 info i was talking about in a previous post.  the second is about the introduction of the world class t5

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/Detailed/349.shtml

http://www.moderndriveline.com/Technical_Bits/t5_history.htm

bob
Take a job big or small, do it right or not at all.

pintowagon77

I don't understand all the confusion people have... I have taken a 86 t bird and used the bellhousing, t-5, clutch and flywheel, it all worked. I just used a mustang II clutch cable because I didn't want to go hydraulic. That worked fine in a sand/ mud buggy, no slippage or binding with very heavy use.
Also my daily driver has a World Class t-5 out of a 92 mustang with a 89 bell housing. Honestly not sure what clutch or flywheel ended up working.  quality world class Borg Warner t-5 are a little harder to hook up but so few people have them I think they complicate them... Find a t-5 identification website and see what yours came out of. Not much help sorry, but i asked the same questions. http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/09/t5swap/
Contact any time for info or parts.

turbo74pinto

and like ohsix9 stated about the pos t9, my opinion is the same.  deal with cutting that 2 inches in your floorboard to clear your t5 shifter and notching your tranny crossmember for the t5 mount.  its well worth it.  its just my opinion but, i think the the t9 is a waste if you plan on putting power to it.  plus the aftermarket for the t5 is great.

bob
Take a job big or small, do it right or not at all.

turbo74pinto

just to clear something up hear, not all t5s are 10 spline.  maybe all fords but i cant say for sure.  gm runs a 14 and a 26 spline along with a different bellhousing bolt pattern.  infact the t5 in my 41 ford is a 14 spline out of an s 10.

both na and turbo ford 4 banger cars shared the same gear sets.  mostly a 3.97 first with earlier ones being 4.03 or 4.02.  i dont remember for sure anymore, 4.0something.  then the svos in 85 and 86 ran a 3.50 first.  v8s were around 3.35 and some ford aftermarket around 2.95.  if you search, im pretty sure i posted up a good site with great ford t5 info.

for what its worth, the t5, flywheel and clutch in my pinto is out of an 88 turbo coupe.  the bellhousing is out of an 89 (at least im pretty sure, anyhow, it was around that year) fox bodied mustang, as is the tranny mount.  i ran my clutch cable straight to the bellcrank without notching the frame or building a bracket.  i probably should have, but its been 2 years with no troubles, binding or any more wear than paint being rubbed off my frame.  the speedo cable used is one out of an automatic pinto, since the fog speedo cable goes into the opposite side of a t5.  my speedo gear is the same that was in the 88 turbo coupe which had  3.55 rear gears.  my pinto is still a 3.40 rear gear car and the speedo is off by 4-5 mph.
Take a job big or small, do it right or not at all.

OhSix9

Mike.

Sorry i missed the whole i have an 87 parts car bit. if you want to use that tranny  all you need is a bell housing that isn't hydraulic.  any of the ones above listed by others will work  you might find the first couple gears a bit long for a na car. all t5's are ten spline input but the pn for the turbo clutch is different.   I think it is a half inch bigger if memory serves. again go with the fly wheel as the source for determining which clutch  and away you go.    the 2.3 fox stangs probably have better ratios if you are using the original motor for a while.         
Modest beginnings start with the single blow of a horn man..    Now when you get through with this thing every dickhead in the world is gonna wanna own it.   Do you know anything at all about the internal combustion engine?

Virgil to Sid

lugnut

Thanks for the info, oh six.   I will start looking for a 2.3 'Stang.  I did take a pretty cool oil cooler/filter adapter off of that Merkur that allows one to swing the filter around to different angles. Who knows, could come in handy some day.
m

OhSix9

xr4's use a pos t9 unit that is basically the hummer with a 5th gear tacked on.  take a t5 from any fox body 2.3, 5 spd car and make the 2 inch bracket that bolts to the cable hole on the housing  to move the clutch cable up to clear the crossmember and you can retain the bellcrank stuff and not be changing shift forks and all that "fun".  plus this is by far the easiest combination to obtain.  you can take the whole thing from the flywheel to the tailshaft and if you ever need parts just make note of the year stang it came out of. easy to get clutches and all.  turbo cars tend to have different ratios vs the na cars. plus 87/8 turbo coupes have hydraulic slave cylinders that should be avoided.

OhSix
Modest beginnings start with the single blow of a horn man..    Now when you get through with this thing every dickhead in the world is gonna wanna own it.   Do you know anything at all about the internal combustion engine?

Virgil to Sid

lugnut

I was at the local pick-n pull yard recently, and there is an 85 Murkur Xr4ti there with a 5 speed.  Would any of those parts be useful for a Pinto?  I did not crawl under the car because it was pretty wet under there!  I have an 87 Turbo coupe w/ a 5 speed that will someday be donating parts to my '78 wagon.
mike

yblock64

Good info. I did find one of these trans in a Merkur, but I was unsure of the fitment for a Pinto and some stuff was missing from it. I now have a complete T5 from a '92 2.3 Mustang to install in the '80 Pinto. I've always wondered how much better my '72 model Pinto 2000 cc would have been with an extra gear. It would run away from anything I raced(4 cyl,some 6cyl and a few V8 cars) until 105 mph and with 3.55 gears, that was all it would do.

78cruisingwagon

The T9 is the Pinto ET gearbox (known as the Hummer) that had the tailhousing shortened and had a fith gear installed there. It was designed in Germany and used on a whole lot of European cars as well as imported Merkurs. The case is the same length and the shifter is in the same place as the four speed, making it the simplest direct bolt in overdrive for our Pinto's. But they are hard to find over here. They have two gear ratios. A 3.36 first gear, and a 3.65 first gear. The overdrive is I believe .81. Go to Burton Power ( an English Website), they have lots of info on these trans.

yblock64


Mike Modified

Try searching "d5 bell" and "d9 bell"  Lots of info.

Mike

yblock64

72pair
Thanks for the reply. So the T5 bell with bellcrank from a fox body will work with x-member notch. Such a simple car, yet so complex.... my brain hurts now.

72pair

Risking further confusion, some fox mustangs with 2.3s used the iron case "hummer" trans (ie pinto} with a 3 bolt shifter. These bells bolted to the trans from the engine side like the pinto. What you want is an aluminum case SROD 4 speed bell that bolts up from the trans side like the T-5. The t-5 bellcrank bellhousings from fox cars also work. You can either notch the crossmember for cable clearance or fab a new bracket to eliminate the bellcrank. This topic has been covered many times here, just use the search function to see. JT :look:
72 sedan 2.0, c-4 beater now hot 2.0, 4-speed
72 sedan 2.3, t-5, 8" running project
80 Bobcat hatchback 2.3, 4-spd, 97K

yblock64

Okay.... So the bellhousing that comes with a T5 won't work in a Pinto? A bell from a Mustang II 4cyl 4-speed is what I need to use, as it will bolt to the T5? What trans is a T9? What is the D9 bell? I know I'm firing a lot of questions at you, just need to know what parts to look for to make this work. Thanks guys- Richard

blink77

Richard
I've got a bell from a 77-78 MustII that had a 2.3 4-spd.
I put a T-5 from a 93 Must 2.3 on it. I used the MustII
throwout lever also. The bell you need is the one that
had the 4spd with the shifter that bolts on with 3 bolts.
The T-5 is completely different, but it bolts on this bell.
The Merkur 5sp takes the same shifter as the MustII 4sp,
(3 bolt)and bolts on the Pinto bell that comes with the 4spd
with the screw in shifter. The T-5 will move the shifter
closer to the dash, but the T-9 (Merkur) moved the shifter
back less than 2in. and I didn't have to cut a new hole in
the floor. Crazy ain't it.
Bill

dick1172762

Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

yblock64

I've read the topics on 5 speed conversions for the 2.3 Pinto but I'm still confused on what bellhousing to use. I bought a 1980 2.3/C4 that was a bracket race drag car. I want to remove the auto from it and install a T5. I thought a complete set-up from a Mustang or T-bird would work in this Pinto but now I'm not so sure. Seems to be something about the clutch/cable/bellcrank/push/pull/hydraulic/linkage....that is an issue with this conversion. Everyone that responded to my V8 swap questions were very helpful, could someone shed some light on this topic as well? Thanks