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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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hellfirejim

You know it is nice to be at the front for a change.  the Pinto revolution is coming and they are becoming more popular all the time.   like I said before, my Pinto is better known in my area than me. :lol:
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Starsky and Hutch

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blupinto

Starsky, sock it to 'em! Who needs family like that anyway? If they can't say anything nice maybe they weren't taught to SHUT THEIR PIE HOLE! (gawd I love that saying! lol!)

Dave, who needs brothers sometimes? I should know... :P
One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

Quote from: dave1987 on January 13, 2010, 05:24:35 AM
I get that same reaction from people I take along with me in my 78 Sedan. They just don't understand why a *Pinto* gets more attention than any other car or truck they have driven.

My favorite thing to do is pull into the Ford dealership on a nice clear day while all of the sales people are outside enjoying the nice weather and fresh air. They all seem to follow me from the entrance of the parking lot to the parking space at the door. It reminds me of zombies from Dawn of the Dead chasing after fresh meat. I highly recommend doing this in the summer, everyone! :)

Sounds like fun, but I don't think the folks at my local Ford dealership will be terribly impressed, thanks to 71pintoracer driving his little beauty back and forth to work at the same dealership!  Oh well... if someone is going to steal my thunder, at least it's a PCCA member! :-\

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

popbumper

I get my chastising at home. The 10 year old boy is into exotics - and the wife just doesn't "get it". She swears she will NEVER be seen in it. She's a good woman, but the Pinto thing is wayyyy beyond her. The kid? Maybe some hope once I build the beast and take him for a ride.

Pintos are not for everyone. And, to that point, what's exciting about owning a car that >IS< for everyone? Sure, other cars are cool, but the Chevelles, Novas, Camaros, Mustangs, Tri-fives are everywhere. When the guy in your neighborhood who owns a '57 Chevy stops to ask you about your Pinto - THAT'S something!!

..and that's what it's about!!!!

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

Sqyrel

everywhere I go I get noticed. Half the people can't believe it. the other half want to buy it LOL
restoring a '72 runabout. any advice would be appreciated.

Pintosopher

Quote from: dave1987 on January 13, 2010, 03:08:36 PM
I know how family criticism can get. My older brother is always asking "that thing is still drivable?" or, "when are you going to send that to the junk yard where it belongs?". Quite irritating, but a drive around town in the Pinto calms me down pretty well. :)

I have 600 miles between my "family "and I, so the veiled derision was kept to out of state comments. However, can you imagine having a Pinto racer in the NAPA VALLEY in the '80s as the Bimmer status was at it's peak.
My car had license plates and a Race motor (due to "creative swaps" during Smog check years),and if the "words" slipped out of their lips, I just smiled and answered with a 7000rpm  Burnout (with trac Lok rear) and chirps in second & third. Light weight and 7.5 inch steel wheels with 9 inches on each corner left no doubt that I meant business. 3" exhaust exiting just under the passenger door (Tunnelled floor pan) fairly shouted the song of Hooker Super Comp headers and My dual side drafts left the remaining fools clearly nodding their heads.
Getting attention? Oh you Bet! I plan to build another one like it for street duty (Import Intimidation) and It might have Duratec with no FI and big Carbs (245HP) Spendy UK conversion stuff.

Sadly it might have to happen outside the"golden" state..

But Drive we Must :fastcar:

Pintosopher,  Blue Oval Horsey forever...
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

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dave1987

I know how family criticism can get. My older brother is always asking "that thing is still drivable?" or, "when are you going to send that to the junk yard where it belongs?". Quite irritating, but a drive around town in the Pinto calms me down pretty well. :)
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I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Starsky and Hutch

I have even had family members get jealous of my pinto saying things like ,,,,oh it`s just a swear word ford pinto .....Now i have deleted all my msn and face book page so they don't have to look at it anymore and they can keep their snotty remarks at there house.. God forbid I  should see them on the street i may have to beat them up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Starsky and Hutch

Ok i`ll try that and let you know the outcome k ;)
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pintogirl

Quote from: Starsky and Hutch on January 13, 2010, 10:15:16 AM
l` am going to do that at the ford dealer it was sold at this summer

Ask them if the warranty is still good!!!!  :lol: :lol:
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

Starsky and Hutch

l` am going to do that at the ford dealer it was sold at this summer
1977 Pinto Accent stripe group Runabout                                                                    interior(Code PN) Color (Code R2)

dave1987

I get that same reaction from people I take along with me in my 78 Sedan. They just don't understand why a *Pinto* gets more attention than any other car or truck they have driven.

My favorite thing to do is pull into the Ford dealership on a nice clear day while all of the sales people are outside enjoying the nice weather and fresh air. They all seem to follow me from the entrance of the parking lot to the parking space at the door. It reminds me of zombies from Dawn of the Dead chasing after fresh meat. I highly recommend doing this in the summer, everyone! :)
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

71pintoracer

Was helping a friend of my son with his Eclipse, we had to go to town for some parts so we took the Pinto. On the interstate people go by and wave or give thumbs up, then when we were in town going down the road a SUV pulls up beside us and the guy is taking a pic while driving! Matt is just shaking his head in disbelief!  :lol:
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moonman

Quote from: dholvrsn on September 17, 2009, 12:57:06 PM
It's about time those Pintos start catching up with some of those old Studebakers....
to me it seems as if the pintos are the modern version of the duce coupe, i love them. :D
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Carolina Boy

Quote from: blupinto on October 14, 2009, 05:47:00 PM
HA! Wouldn't you like to be privy to how I wounded myself... ;) :devil: ;D

Blu's doing hit and runs tonight.
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

blupinto

HA! Wouldn't you like to be privy to how I wounded myself... ;) :devil: ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

Carolina Boy

Quote from: Starsky and Hutch on September 17, 2009, 04:36:16 PM
It`s the girls that get me,,, they just about trip and fall from looking so hard!!!!!

Now we know how Blu hurt her elbow!! :devil:
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

orangekrush

id have to agree with the lot of yall. they do get the attention!! my little orange 78 attracts alot of attention in stock form with just some appliance mags. i CANT WAIT to get my hot pants kit and my 302 and AOD in my little car!! i think it will snap necks then!! LOL!!!  :hypno:
lifes too short to drive a boring ride!

Norman Bagi

I like to say, "If I have to expalin it, then you wouldn't understand!"

78squirewagon

Whenever somebody asks "Why a Pinto?", I ask them "Well....what does your Chevelle/B-Body Mopar/Tri-five Chevy/etc. weigh and how many other Pintos do you see here?"  That usually quiets them down a bit...

I have to ask as well. "Do you see another one around or know of another one in the area other than mine?" Also, I tell them, some people collect coins and baseballs while some of us collect Pinto's
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1978 Hatchback, red (built four days after  the Squire)

skunky56

Whenever somebody asks "Why a Pinto?", I ask them "Well....what does your Chevelle/B-Body Mopar/Tri-five Chevy/etc. weigh and how many other Pintos do you see here?"  That usually quiets them down a bit...

Funny how that works! ;)
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entropy

I'll tell ya...my small-block '72 never fails to attract attention at the local rod runs and parking lot car shows when I bring it.  People who get this car *really* get it.  A couple months ago I had a guy in a flawless Super Stock Plymouth call over a friend in a pro-built Mustang pro streeter to take a look at it.  They both showed a healthy respect for it's potential.  Whenever somebody asks "Why a Pinto?", I ask them "Well....what does your Chevelle/B-Body Mopar/Tri-five Chevy/etc. weigh and how many other Pintos do you see here?"  That usually quiets them down a bit...
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blupinto

Quote from: skunky56 on September 29, 2009, 06:56:34 PM
It's funny how many people have very fond memories of the Pintos. I have other very nice cars but the Pintos always receive more attention. Mopar Mostly Old Parts And Rust! I have a #s Matching 69 Dart Swinger 340 car,no disrespect, just thought I'd throw that one in.  :D


I was given a hot rod magazine several months ago that featured the Dodge Dart. The sentence that caught my attention was the one where the author stated that the Dart was a car that a person either had or they knew someone who had one. Sounds like the article could've been talking about our lil' Pintos. Mostly unsung in their heyday but now well-loved.  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

skunky56

It's funny how many people have very fond memories of the Pintos. I have other very nice cars but the Pintos always receive more attention. Mopar Mostly Old Parts And Rust! I have a #s Matching 69 Dart Swinger 340 car,no disrespect, just thought I'd throw that one in.  :D
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Norman Bagi

I had one guy come up and was upset he got rid of his, he got rid of it because of the reputation, funny thing, he got rear ended in his, and no boom!

Leaving Carlisle I got flashed by four girls in an explorer, don't tell my wife.

I got into it with someone was some drunk in a bar who started in with the Found On Road Dead, Pintos zoop nonsense. So I asked him what he had and he said a Mopar, I said oh one of those welfare car companies. Money Obama Spent Against the Recession. (Mopar)and we exchanged a few words. But basically my car was there and his wasn't, talk is cheap and so is a mopar Many Odd Parts Assembled Randomly  :showback:

Gave a coworker a ride home, he said my car had attention defficit dissorder. (302, 4 barrell)He loved it.

Getting gas one time a kid (17?) came up to look at me, then said oh it's a Pinto, I thought it was a Vega? and left.  The guy pumping gas said "what would he know, littl $h*%, what an a$$&*^%" So I laughed at him  and asked him if he was such a Chevy guy, why was he driving an F-150?

Everyone else liked her, they bring back happy memories. A couple morons are always going to surface now and then. Most people just smile.

flash041

here is a pick from the show
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flash041

I just spent the weekend at the Jefferson car show and swap meet in Jefferson WI .To draw attention to my selling space I decided to park my still unrestored 78 Cruising wagon next to it.Boy did it get attention!! It was fun listing to all the "Pinto Stories".People were amazed to see one , as there are not that may left. The first night I camped there , while in my camper lying down trying to fall asleep people would come up to the car ans start talking to their buddys about the car.I wish I had a microphone recording all that was said!It was priceless !
1978 Pinto Cruising wagon (I am the original owner ! ) Built Aug 15th 1977 in NJ
1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

hellfirejim

I have posted before but quickly since I have had my car out running I have gotrten thuimbs up from a biker, a 4 x 4 and a pro street duster.  what really blows me a way is how many people in my area know about my pinto.  if I am some where talking about it they say oh yeah you have the yellow Pinto in cortland....  amazing swimply amazing.
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