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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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QuoteReminds me of a pinto story.
It was my birthday came down stairs expecting a happy birthday, but the wife just gave me a grumpy good morning. Then the kids came down but it was the same thing. Went to work and the secretary said good morning boss and happy birthday. That made me feel better. Then later she said why dont we go to lunch
in the pinto that is such a sexy car. So we did and had a nice lunch, on the way back she said why dont we stop by my apartment on the way home, nervously i said ok. We got their and she said excuse me for a minute i am going in the bedroom but i will be rite back. A few minutes later she came back in carrying a big cake followed by my wife and kids. I was very shocked as i sat their naked.     I fired my secretary.


that was funny

smallfryefarm

Quote from: 71hotrodpinto on June 12, 2009, 10:25:13 PM
HAHAHAH! DIG IT!
I started driving my car in 88. When i got my first real Girlfriend she didnt think much of my car. Yah it was "ok" "kinda neat" etc. Then i put a header on it with the 2.0 Well i didnt have the funds to connect the muffler at the shop so i just thought "what the heck" lets run it! So i did for about 2 weeks. In the course of going out a couple of weekends with the squeez, she commented on how the "vibration" was kind of a turn on! HAHAHA! NICE! She then started calling it the BEAST! hehehehehe...
Now i have that same sound and MORE with a full exhaust. You know what im talking about 71!
Good Stuff!

Talk about off topic.... HAHA

Reminds me of a pinto story.
It was my birthday came down stairs expecting a happy birthday, but the wife just gave me a grumpy good morning. Then the kids came down but it was the same thing. Went to work and the secretary said good morning boss and happy birthday. That made me feel better. Then later she said why dont we go to lunch
in the pinto that is such a sexy car. So we did and had a nice lunch, on the way back she said why dont we stop by my apartment on the way home, nervously i said ok. We got their and she said excuse me for a minute i am going in the bedroom but i will be rite back. A few minutes later she came back in carrying a big cake followed by my wife and kids. I was very shocked as i sat their naked.     I fired my secretary.
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smallfryefarm

Quote from: 71pintoracer on June 12, 2009, 07:07:12 PM
I see a fistfight breaking out over blu...see the trouble you've caused Becky?  >:( Ahhhh wimmin'!  :lol:
Thankfully, my wifey-poo LOVES my Pinto! In fact, when I'm revvin' the engine, it gets her engine revvin'  ;D ;D ;D Sometimes I go down to the garage and fire that mutha' up and rev it a few times...then go back upstairs lookin' all cool  :nocool: Ha!!  :fastcar:

Sounds like a good plan. Mine is runnin this week, you have much motivated my intereset.  ;D :evil:
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Carolina Boy

Just wait till the pool opens tonight!! :devil: :drunk: :2fast4u:
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

71pintoracer

Quote from: blupinto on June 13, 2009, 01:50:38 AM

No worries about fistfights over me. I'm homely and er robust. Yeah, robust.  :P You guys will be fighting to escape me.  ;D
Ha! I don't think so Beck!! I would much rather be with a "robust" woman who shared my Pinto intrests than a supermodel type who hated my car and everything about it! :cheesy_n:
Love me, love my Pinto!!  :-*
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Carolina Boy

If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

blupinto

Haha. You guys with the rumbly Pintos are giving your girl-wooing secrets away...  :devil:

No I am not an imposter. I have loved Pintos since I was a very small child. In fact I asked MY parents "Why can't we get a Pinto?" I like Mavericks ok but the Pinto wins hooves down.

No worries about fistfights over me. I'm homely and er robust. Yeah, robust.  :P You guys will be fighting to escape me.  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

71hotrodpinto

Quote from: 71pintoracer on June 12, 2009, 07:07:12 PM
I see a fistfight breaking out over blu...see the trouble you've caused Becky?  >:( Ahhhh wimmin'!  :lol:
Thankfully, my wifey-poo LOVES my Pinto! In fact, when I'm revvin' the engine, it gets her engine revvin'  ;D ;D ;D Sometimes I go down to the garage and fire that mutha' up and rev it a few times...then go back upstairs lookin' all cool  :nocool: Ha!!  :fastcar:

HAHAHAH! DIG IT!
I started driving my car in 88. When i got my first real Girlfriend she didnt think much of my car. Yah it was "ok" "kinda neat" etc. Then i put a header on it with the 2.0 Well i didnt have the funds to connect the muffler at the shop so i just thought "what the heck" lets run it! So i did for about 2 weeks. In the course of going out a couple of weekends with the squeez, she commented on how the "vibration" was kind of a turn on! HAHAHA! NICE! She then started calling it the BEAST! hehehehehe...
Now i have that same sound and MORE with a full exhaust. You know what im talking about 71!
Good Stuff!

Talk about off topic.... HAHA


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71pintoracer

Quote from: r4pinto on June 12, 2009, 03:11:58 PM
If she is the perfect woman then I call dibs..  ;D
I see a fistfight breaking out over blu...see the trouble you've caused Becky?  >:( Ahhhh wimmin'!  :lol:
Thankfully, my wifey-poo LOVES my Pinto! In fact, when I'm revvin' the engine, it gets her engine revvin'  ;D ;D ;D Sometimes I go down to the garage and fire that mutha' up and rev it a few times...then go back upstairs lookin' all cool  :nocool: Ha!!  :fastcar:
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

r4pinto

Quote from: smallfryefarm on June 12, 2009, 12:55:29 PM
oh my be still my heart could this be the perfect woman? or just another impostor. I know how you women are.

If she is the perfect woman then I call dibs..  ;D
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Wittsend

Fred,

  Kim is correct.  The fine in California is the registration cost for EACH AND EVERY YEAR MISSED (up to seven years I believe) PLUS a 160% fine.

So, take my Pinto as an example.  Arnie just increased registration fees ($73 in the Pinto's case).  If I parked it for seven year, but never put it on non-op it would cost me:

$73 (base fee) plus $117 (fine)  = $190 X 7 years = $1330 to register the car!!!
And that wouldn't even include the $73 for the current year!

Or, I could have paid a one time $18 fee to non-op the car until it is registered again.

Basically you are guilty with no recourse to prove your innocent.  The DMV assumes that any car not registered was still driven on the highway and therefore subject to fees and fines.

A guy such as yourself "may" be able to "laundry" the car into Arizona to abate the California fines.  Then re-register it into California off the clean Arizona registration. It all depends on the State.

In 1995 I was given a '61 Corvair station wagon. It was driven from Michigan to California in 1972, parked and never registered. I was able to put it in my name for minimal cost because it lacked a California record, it was like it just came into the state.  This was 1995 so things might have changed.

Thankfully my '61 Corvair SW, '63 Rambler American, '65 Sunbeam Tiger and my '73 Datsun 510 are all on non-op.  Sadly my '66 Volvo 544 didn't fair as well. In years prior you had to non-op every year. My wife missed that one and the car "absorbed" too much cost.

Between needing to pass smog and those "late" fees I'm sure it accounts for a significant amount of viable (or collector) cars winding up in the junk yard.
Tom

smallfryefarm

Quote from: blupinto on June 11, 2009, 06:30:14 PM
Hello.

My name is Becky (or blu to my dearest friends) and I'm a Pintoholic.

The good news is: I would be the wife who not only will never say "is that another part for your frickin' Pinto?" in malice, but I'd probably be just as thrilled to get it as the hubby is! Or we'd both just go broke adopting Pintos and ordering parts for them! lol. Kim, did I just describe you and Hubby?  ;)

oh my be still my heart could this be the perfect woman? or just another impostor. I know how you women are.
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popbumper

Quote from: blupinto on June 11, 2009, 06:30:14 PM
Hello.

My name is Becky (or blu to my dearest friends) and I'm a Pintoholic.

The good news is: I would be the wife who not only will never say "is that another part for your frickin' Pinto?" in malice, but I'd probably be just as thrilled to get it as the hubby is! Or we'd both just go broke adopting Pintos and ordering parts for them! lol. Kim, did I just describe you and Hubby?  ;)

Oh, Blu, I am enamored of you at this point - your husband will be a lucky man. My wife hates my car, she can't understand why I put a dime into it, and refuses to ever be seen in it. She wants me to sell it and buy a Maverick. This sad behavior is rubbing off on my 10 year old boy, who says things like "I don't know why you like Pintos, Dad."

Help!!

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

Carolina Boy

How in the world do we go from cannonballing iphones to where we are now. Lord have mercy on our souls and blest our Pintos.
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

blupinto

Wildfire... look what Mama got-I mean bought- you...
One can never have too many Pintos!

blupinto

Liar! Plane tickets don't come in boxes that long. It has to be that dash cap and sending unit I need!!! HANDS OFF SOLDIER BOY! lol. MINEMINEMINEMINEMINE!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
One can never have too many Pintos!

Carolina Boy

Your plane ticket :evil:
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

blupinto

What package would that be, CB?   ::) :angel: :devil:
One can never have too many Pintos!

r4pinto

Quote from: pintogirl on June 11, 2009, 09:48:56 PM
yep, Matt already tried but he won't do dishes!!!! ;D  Actually he got worried I would strip his Pinto!!   :lol: LOL Get it mixed up with a parts car!!!! LOL  :lol:

As rusty as she is it would be easy to mistake for a parts car.. Especially since it is a 77 & not the years you like :)
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Carolina Boy

Blu, STEP AWAY FROM THE PACKAGE, SLOWLY, SLOWLY.
huph! I am not addicted, Addiction is a fault and I have no faults!

I love Pinto and I love women and I love women that love Pinto!!!!


Now what was the question????
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

pintogirl

Quote from: r4pinto on June 11, 2009, 09:11:02 PM
I tried to get Kim, aka Pintogirl to adopt me but no dice lol

yep, Matt already tried but he won't do dishes!!!! ;D  Actually he got worried I would strip his Pinto!!   :lol: LOL Get it mixed up with a parts car!!!! LOL  :lol:
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

pintogirl

Quote from: 71hotrodpinto on June 11, 2009, 09:07:04 PM
Do you guys want to adopt a 38yo Pinto nut as a "long lost Cousin" or Brother or something ?? Just as long as its leagle!! HAHAHAHAH! I could help you put the projects together and im pretty good at scouring ebay LOL! Thing is i come with a non pinto wife and a 3yo and a 6yo, both girls.
;D


Well you were close to being adopted till you said 3 and 6 yr olds! LOL My kid is grown now and I am really enjoying the freedom!!  ;D ;D

Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

r4pinto

I tried to get Kim, aka Pintogirl to adopt me but no dice lol
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

71hotrodpinto

Quote from: pintogirl on June 11, 2009, 07:34:25 PM
Yep, you pretty much did!! LOL If I tell hubby about a good deal on a Pinto, he will try his hardest to figure out how to get it! LOL It was his idea to drive clear up to Yreka, just to see what kinda Pinto parts this one guy might have had!

Do you guys want to adopt a 38yo Pinto nut as a "long lost Cousin" or Brother or something ?? Just as long as its leagle!! HAHAHAHAH! I could help you put the projects together and im pretty good at scouring ebay LOL! Thing is i come with a non pinto wife and a 3yo and a 6yo, both girls.
;D


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Quote from: blupinto on June 11, 2009, 06:30:14 PM
Hello.

My name is Becky (or blu to my dearest friends) and I'm a Pintoholic.

The good news is: I would be the wife who not only will never say "is that another part for your frickin' Pinto?" in malice, but I'd probably be just as thrilled to get it as the hubby is! Or we'd both just go broke adopting Pintos and ordering parts for them! lol. Kim, did I just describe you and Hubby?  ;)

Yep, you pretty much did!! LOL If I tell hubby about a good deal on a Pinto, he will try his hardest to figure out how to get it! LOL It was his idea to drive clear up to Yreka, just to see what kinda Pinto parts this one guy might have had!
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

r4pinto

I know what you are talking about. You have gotten me a time or two lol.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

blupinto

I never thought of that... I wouldn't... :angel: :devil: and then again I do have that towel I snap ornery folk with (see last 50 shouts or ask Carolina Boy. He has the welts to prove it! :laugh:) and I can snap that towel til the poor man panics and drops the package, then I'll swoop from out of nowhere and grab it like an eagle grabs a fish. Victory is mine!!! ??? :drunk: :lol: Ok HOW many 2 liter bottles of Mountain Dew did you drink Blu :lol:?!
One can never have too many Pintos!

r4pinto

A single girl that loves Pintos.. That would make it harder for the guy that loves Pintos. You would be fighting him for the cars & parts lol
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

blupinto

Hello.

My name is Becky (or blu to my dearest friends) and I'm a Pintoholic.

The good news is: I would be the wife who not only will never say "is that another part for your frickin' Pinto?" in malice, but I'd probably be just as thrilled to get it as the hubby is! Or we'd both just go broke adopting Pintos and ordering parts for them! lol. Kim, did I just describe you and Hubby?  ;)
One can never have too many Pintos!

Fred Morgan

Oh well to bad for you guys. AZ doesn't do that. You want me to get plates for you. Fred   :)
Fred Morgan- Missing from us...
January 20th 1951-January 6th 2014

Beloved PCCA Parts Supplier and Friend to many.
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http://www.fordpinto.com/in-memory-of-our-fallen-pinto-heros/fred-morgan-23434/