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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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71pintoracer

The '74 and up are easier due to the larger engine bay and trans tunnel. Years and years ago my brother and I did a swap with a kit made by Hooker. It was a bolt-in deal. The kit is not available anymore but it was just engine and trans mounts and instructions similar to the ones you saw on the Summit site. We even used the stock cast iron manifolds. Your '78 is a prime candidate for a V8 swap. Plus I read on your other thread that a V8 Mustang is in the offerings.
Pinturbo75 are you telling me you bought a Pinto and a turbo doner and had it up and running for 500 bucks? What a steal! Gives me hope for future endeavors!!  ;D
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Carolina Boy

Steve, There use to be a place called Richards out on 49 but he closed to the public then sold out. I heard everything was crushed. I only know of that one and maybe two more yards that had parts I would need. I myself live in South Hillsborough between I-40 and I-85 just after they split. The yards around here don't let you out in the yard anymore due to thieves hiding parts in tool boxes.

I may just keep what I got, I just ain't made my mine up yet. Hmm....zoom, zoom or Varoom???
JATO anyone???
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

Carolina Boy

I couldn't have said it any better. Both swaps have their good and bad points.

Now another thing I heard was that 76-80 pintos are easier to put a 302 in. There is something about the frame mounts. You used engine plates, right?

There has to be a Pintoer on here that has put a 302 in a 78.
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

Pinturbo75

youre both pretty far off base from what ive encountered. my pinto was on the road with a turbo setup for less than 500 including the pinto. i did get a whole car for the job but paid 200 for it. you just need to look if youre serious and youll find what you need. carolina boy, where in nc are you? if youre near charolotte there are a few picknpulls that regularly have turbo stuff available and down here i know of a few sitting and could be had for decent prices. i could try to get the online sites for the pullaparts up there if needed. let me know. steve
75 turbo pinto trunk, megasquirt2, 133lb injectors, bv head, precision 6265 turbo, 3" exhaust,bobs log, 8.8, t5,, subframe connectors, 65 mm tb, frontmount ic, traction bars, 255 lph walbro,
73 turbo pinto panel wagon, ms1, 85 lb inj, fmic, holset hy35, 3" exhaust, msd, bov,

71pintoracer

Carolina Boy, you are exactly right! I was thinking of posting the same thoughts. I considered the turbo swap (and still am) but I could not find a doner car. I had so much fun blowing V8 Mustangs and camaros in the weeds with my nitrous injected 2.0!
I really think for the turbo swap you are far ahead of the game to have the entire doner car rather than trying to piece everything together. That means you have the expense of buying the whole car, and then most likely having to freshen the engine. (they tend to blow head gaskets) I say I couldn't find a doner, I did find two, one had a blown head gasket for $3500.00 but the rest of the car was in nice shape so it would really have been a waste to scrap the car, the other car was not as nice but the engine smoked and it didn't run right when the turbo kicked in. 3K for that one!
On the other hand, 302's are everywhere and pretty cheap. I picked up a running engine from a wrecked '89 Mustang that had the H.O. with a roller cam and forged pistons (so I can use my nitrous) for 100 bucks.
Either swap is going to require a decent amount of work and fabrication, but IMHO I think the V8 swap is easier. My car is no corner carver for sure but as far as normal(?)driving it handles very well.
I am still kinda on the lookout for a turbo doner, if the right one pops up then I can buy it and take my time with rebuilding the engine, planning the swap ect. In the meantime I'm having a blast with the V8! It's alot of fun to be cruising along in second gear and nail it and have the rear of the car get sideways!!  ;D ;D ;D
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Carolina Boy

Just tell me if I'm right.

Turbo: big horse, little engine, special engine work, major wiring, computer control, hot revolving parts, broken parts expensive and rare, very close tolerances, labor intense. Good handling, gas mileage ok, decent sound.

302 V8: easy find, shoehorn needed, easy wiring (if you stay with carb), power, squirrelly handling, poor gas mileage, loud, repairs and parts more plentiful, chassis upgrades needed.

Either one: pocket book bumper, will turn heads, will eat ricers anytime, unexpected at shows.

I can't put either one down or hold one above the other. There is always a third option, 3.8 Thunderchicken supercharged.
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

hellfirejim

I would say that before you go the V8 route you owe it to yourself to take a ride in turbo charged Pinto.  I have had that privilge and it was not the fastest car there. But what i will tell you is a V8 car accelerates while a turbo Pinto putting out the horses is just suddenly someplace else.  It doesn't feel like a V8 it is just suddenly gone.  Very, very quick.
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Pinturbo75

we always have good food. bbq is usually in there somewhere. ill try to keep you informed of the dates when we figure them out.  we had 58 people show up at the spring meet last year. plenty of nice cars and cool folks. we have 4 turbo pintos in the southeast group  and 2 of those are 400 plus to the wheels. im not quite there yet. im trying to get everything tuned properly on my old engine and then the new one will go in. im looking for a minimum of 450 to the wheels and close to 30 mpg cruising at around 70. the car is alot of fun and the looks you get when you tell them its only a 4banger are priceless.....
75 turbo pinto trunk, megasquirt2, 133lb injectors, bv head, precision 6265 turbo, 3" exhaust,bobs log, 8.8, t5,, subframe connectors, 65 mm tb, frontmount ic, traction bars, 255 lph walbro,
73 turbo pinto panel wagon, ms1, 85 lb inj, fmic, holset hy35, 3" exhaust, msd, bov,

Carolina Boy

Pinturbo75, Let me know the dates of your meets and I'll make some plans. I haven't made me mind up yet, laddy!! Is there BBQ at the meets?
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

Pinturbo75

carolina boy, before you go the v8 route you need to come to one of our turbo meets and see what 140ci can do while still pullin down 30 mpg. you will be more than a little impressed. i promise. we southern boys and gals have 2 meets a year. we havent had our spring meet yet. even a stock 2.3 turbo will piss off most of the average v8 stuff around. and its a fairly easy swap in a pinto.
75 turbo pinto trunk, megasquirt2, 133lb injectors, bv head, precision 6265 turbo, 3" exhaust,bobs log, 8.8, t5,, subframe connectors, 65 mm tb, frontmount ic, traction bars, 255 lph walbro,
73 turbo pinto panel wagon, ms1, 85 lb inj, fmic, holset hy35, 3" exhaust, msd, bov,

Carolina Boy

I was looking at headers in the Summit site and found a set for the 74-80 pinto swap. Lo and behold, you can download the instuctions for the swap. It was very detailed. I might see if Scott would like to load it on the site for all of us to see and use. The headers are a little pricy but they're made by Hooker.
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

Carolina Boy

Turbo74pinto, I will keep you in mind, but I would really like a manual. It's good to have a choice.

smallfryefarm, Thanks for directions to the tread.
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smallfryefarm

71pintoracer has a very good post called let the fun begin lots of pics thats what i have been using
Smallfryefarms Horsepower Ranch

turbo74pinto

i have the mustang ii c4 bell, torque converter, flexplate and i think i have the exhaust manifolds too if your interested. 
the job wasnt too bad.
http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php/topic,9242.0.html

bob
Take a job big or small, do it right or not at all.

Carolina Boy

You said a mouth full. I shouldn't have wasted my money. :read: :nocool:
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

dholvrsn

Plus the thing isn't too accurate.
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'80 trunk model. '17-on
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Carolina Boy

Which one of yall wrote a topic of what is needed for the V8 installation in a Pinto. I know a little but surely one of yall did a documentry. :lol:

I would be using a 1978 Hatchback.

CB

PS I got that manual from ebay and wasn't too impressed about all the cutting and welding and parts recommendations.
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