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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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dave1987

Sounds like a plan! I don't have any problem cutting the welds out, I've got all the tools available to me to do so. Thank you so much!
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pintogirl

Quote from: dave1987 on February 02, 2009, 11:22:26 PM
You can see where the original spot welds are done. The panel is secured under each fender, at the back of the engine compartment you will see where firewall sheet metal is welded to the cowl sheet metal. Then it is welded where the windshield seal goes. So the windshield must be pulled, gasket removed, and you will see a similar weld/joint of sheet metal as you did on the engine bay side.

If the panel can be removed by saving as much of the original spot welding section as possible, that would be greatly appreciated. I just want it to be easy to install once I pull my existing one.

Ok, I think he is going to cut on the other side of those welds. You will most likely have to take apart that welded area!

I will take a pic of the final cut LOL and put on here so you can see it before we go any further!!
Kim
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I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

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dave1987

You can see where the original spot welds are done. The panel is secured under each fender, at the back of the engine compartment you will see where firewall sheet metal is welded to the cowl sheet metal. Then it is welded where the windshield seal goes. So the windshield must be pulled, gasket removed, and you will see a similar weld/joint of sheet metal as you did on the engine bay side.

If the panel can be removed by saving as much of the original spot welding section as possible, that would be greatly appreciated. I just want it to be easy to install once I pull my existing one.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

pintogirl

Quote from: dave1987 on February 01, 2009, 11:40:40 PM
I'm not worried about it if it is too much effort for you. But yes, that is the section I am interested in.

Ok, hopefully you see this in time!! LOL  Hubby is going to cut out that cowl. Where would you like it cut??? You willing to pay shipping on it?? I would think it would cost quite a bit to ship!!

Now, where am I going to find a box big enough?? LOL

Kim

Oh, he will be cutting it out tomorrow after work!!
Kim
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I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

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pintogirl

Quote from: TIGGER on January 31, 2009, 11:34:02 PM
You may want to pull the heater box out and keep it too as the early ones are different.

I missed this post!! LOL

I pulled everything off, that would come off!! It is just a bare shell now!!! Poor little Pinto! :(
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

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dave1987

I'm not worried about it if it is too much effort for you. But yes, that is the section I am interested in.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

pintogirl

Quote from: dave1987 on February 01, 2009, 06:06:19 PM
I can't tell from the pictures, but did you save the Cowl panel, or is it trashed? I'm in need of a replacement for when I have my car repainted. Mine is trashed from when the hood came up on my dad while driving on the freeway. :(

If when you say "cowl panel" you are meaning the piece of the car that the windshield wiper protrudes out of and has air vent slats in it? We did not cut that out. It is to hard to replace that in a car and we figured if any of my Pinto's was wrecked bad enough to damage that part, we would be scrapping it!! In fact, my grey Pinto has a damaged vent section that I am not thrilled with, but it isn't to noticeable, so I am pretending it isn't there!! LOL Again, to much work to cut and weld just for some minor damage.

Is that the piece you are talking about?  Wonder what that would cost to ship??? Let me know if that is what your talking about and I will see if hubby will take the time to cut it out. Not sure he will, now that we are a day behind on getting the car stripped and off the lift. Had to go look at another Pinto at the last minute today!! LOL It's story in another thread!! LOL

Kim
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dave1987

I can't tell from the pictures, but did you save the Cowl panel, or is it trashed? I'm in need of a replacement for when I have my car repainted. Mine is trashed from when the hood came up on my dad while driving on the freeway. :(
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

larjohnson

WOW!!!!! It always makes me sad :'( to see a Pinto put to rest :sleep:, but It's good to know it's signed up as a donor, for those who may need transplants or other surgical procedures.  :laugh: LOL...   Anyway, it's nice the Pinto isn't going to fall prey to a crusher, but being used to help keep alive the Pinto legacy :).  I'm really enjoying this site, and cannot wait to get some more picture postings on my Pintos.

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Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

blupinto

One can never have too many Pintos!

pintogirl

Quote from: blupinto on January 31, 2009, 11:45:26 PM
only if you don't need the brown one!  ;D

Ok, I will try to check the Lime green and the brown Pinto, to see if both are fine. If they are, the brown one is yours!!!  ;D
Kim
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I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

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blupinto

One can never have too many Pintos!

TIGGER

You may want to pull the heater box out and keep it too as the early ones are different.
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pintogirl

Quote from: blupinto on January 31, 2009, 11:04:46 PM
NOooooooooooooooooo! please DON'T get the red bezel! (watch. She'll get the red bezel! lol.  :lol:


LOL So you would rather have the brown one? Maybe I will get the red one for me and give you the brown one!!! LOL  ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

blupinto

NOooooooooooooooooo! please DON'T get the red bezel! (watch. She'll get the red bezel! lol.  :lol:
One can never have too many Pintos!

pintogirl

Quote from: blupinto on January 31, 2009, 10:54:20 PM
I don't know if there's a difference in the years of the radio bezels. Mine is possibly missing a piece. If the inner edges didn't look so perfectly cut I'd swear the boyfriend of the previous owner had the middle cut out to fit a modern radio in the main bezel. So instead of a small rectangle and a hole on the right and left of the rectangle cut out there's one big rectangle cut out. It doesn't look as nice. Hopefully I'm still getting the am-fm cassette in a couple months.

I will try to get out to the wrecking yard next week. I need to get the bumper guards for another member here anyway!!! I will get the bezel for you and that way you can see if it will fit!

I want an 8 track player!!! If anyone knows where I can get one fairly cheap, let me know!!! I have the cassette adaptor already, then I have the cassete Ipod adaptor!! LOL So I can play my Ipod through the cassette adaptor of the 8 track!!!!! LOL!!!
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

blupinto

I don't know if there's a difference in the years of the radio bezels. Mine is possibly missing a piece. If the inner edges didn't look so perfectly cut I'd swear the boyfriend of the previous owner had the middle cut out to fit a modern radio in the main bezel. So instead of a small rectangle and a hole on the right and left of the rectangle cut out there's one big rectangle cut out. It doesn't look as nice. Hopefully I'm still getting the am-fm cassette in a couple months.
One can never have too many Pintos!

dave1987

I was going to ask if you owned the lift and if it was in your garage, but I thought I might have come across as a fool doing so. lol

Very exotic piece of equipment for a home mechanic. Enjoy having it, it makes life SOO much easier than a floor jack and jack stands which are a PITA to setup (I do it a few times a month).
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

pintogirl

Quote from: blupinto on January 31, 2009, 10:24:42 PM
LOL! I was afraid to read past the title! Poor lil' yellow baby... well, I guess I'm getting hardened about our lil' ponies being pieced out. I almost cry to see the blue '72 at the wrecking yard and silently cursing the person who put her there, but yet I'm not above taking her good pieces to live on in her sisters.  :'( :drunk:

BTW, Kim, what are you going to do with that radio bezel? Is it going in Lime Green?

I'm not sure yet on the bezel, why did you need one? I think the red car has a complete bezel. I can go try to get it for you!! I need to make sure the lime green bezel is ok before I think about selling my brown one. That and I am still trying to figure out a way to have a brown dash in my brown Pinto. If the red Pinto at the wrecking yard has a bad one, you will have first dibs on my brown one!!!  ;D  Is the 79 bezel and 74 bezel the same, or will the 71 bezel be the one for your car???
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

blupinto

LOL! I was afraid to read past the title! Poor lil' yellow baby... well, I guess I'm getting hardened about our lil' ponies being pieced out. I almost cry to see the blue '72 at the wrecking yard and silently cursing the person who put her there, but yet I'm not above taking her good pieces to live on in her sisters.  :'( :drunk:

BTW, Kim, what are you going to do with that radio bezel? Is it going in Lime Green?
One can never have too many Pintos!

pintogirl

I know it is sad. I really hated to cut her up! Specially with having most of the paperwork on her. Even had the recall paperwork!


The lift is a 10,000 pound lift. It is very sturdy. We have it in our garage!!!! It sure comes in handy. Only bad thing is, most the time I can't get "MY" car on it! Hubby is always busy doing other peoples cars for money, so my car comes last!!!

Edit to add, I think we paid around 2500. for the lift about 5 or more years ago!!
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

dave1987

That's heartbreaking! Poor little Pony. :(

I'm just glad it won't all go to the crusher, and every usable part will be saved!

I find the "Pinto in a box!" funny though. :P

Did you rent the lift or do you own it? I would sure love to have one! Is it an electric hydraulic one? I have a Pinto friend who used to pull his car onto one, at the shop he worked at, all the time.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dholvrsn

How much does one of those two legged hoists cost and how sturdy is it?

This makes me almost nostalgic for the old air-hoist in Grandpa's Amoco station.
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pintogirl

It has started. The dreaded stripping of the mustard yellow Pinto! :(  I hated to do it because it was a "luxury model" but it had to be done. She was just to far gone to be worth fixing up. The good new is, she will live on in my other Pintos. I am going to use all the brown luxury parts in my brown Pinto and the fenders and doors have been and are being used on my Green Machine, and lime green Pinto!

I did take some pics of the disasembly. This may not be appropriate for all audiences!! If your sqeemish, do not scroll down!! LOL




















Pinto in a box!!!!!


We still need to get the dash, steering column and headliner bars out, but we should have it all done by tomorrow afternoon. Then we can stick the box upstairs and forget about the horrible deed we did, for a while atleast, till I need a part!!! LOL
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA