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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

ALL-FORD SWAP IN COLUMBUS

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75bobcatv6


Starliner

I forgot to say that I spend around $185 for the OEM Mustang scoop + 15 for the billet grille + shipping.   

I listed it on Ebay for a $1.00 with no reserve!   
Item # 160304803051 
1973 Pinto 1600 - Sold!  
1979 Pinto 2300 - Sold!
1984 Audi 5000 Avant - 60,000 original miles
1987 Audi 5000 S Quattro - The snowmobile
1973 Volvo 1800 ES wagon -  my project car
1976 Mustang II - Wifey's new toy

Starliner

I over-paid for the scoop.  I paid $125, I couldn't talk him down.  But I just had to have it.
My Volvo looks a little like a 50's Ferrari.  The Torino CobraJet scoop has that look.

Here is a picture of the new Mustang OEM scoop I was going to use for my P1800 Volvo.
The extra grille I bought separately.


1973 Pinto 1600 - Sold!  
1979 Pinto 2300 - Sold!
1984 Audi 5000 Avant - 60,000 original miles
1987 Audi 5000 S Quattro - The snowmobile
1973 Volvo 1800 ES wagon -  my project car
1976 Mustang II - Wifey's new toy

TOMMYS

STARLINER,HOW MUCH ARE THOSE SCOOPS NEW? THAT'S WHAT I BOUGHT @ THE SHOW.I'M PRETTY SURE I GOT A GOOD DEAL ON THE ONE I BOUGHT.THANKS,TOMMYS.

75bobcatv6

post a pic of the OEM scoop from the new mustang please

Starliner

Yes, you are correct.   It is a Torino Cobra Jet scoop.   
I like the look better than the Mustang.   I just had to have it!

I just bought a new OEM 2005 - 2008 Mustang scoop just 3 weeks ago.
Now I will be selling that since I will use the Torino scoop!
1973 Pinto 1600 - Sold!  
1979 Pinto 2300 - Sold!
1984 Audi 5000 Avant - 60,000 original miles
1987 Audi 5000 S Quattro - The snowmobile
1973 Volvo 1800 ES wagon -  my project car
1976 Mustang II - Wifey's new toy

Bipper

I know it doesn't matter for your project but that scoop looks like it's
from a 70-71 Torino. I think the Mustang scoop is straight along the
front edge while the Torino scoop has that little bit of a point on the
front edge.
71 Sedan, stock
72 Pangra
73 Runabout, 2L turbo propane

Starliner

I bought a shaker scoop also!    I will be using it on Volvo P1800 ES project.   
I will bolt the scoop directly to the hood instead of on the engine air cleaner.
I like the shape of this one.   
Picture attached.   
1973 Pinto 1600 - Sold!  
1979 Pinto 2300 - Sold!
1984 Audi 5000 Avant - 60,000 original miles
1987 Audi 5000 S Quattro - The snowmobile
1973 Volvo 1800 ES wagon -  my project car
1976 Mustang II - Wifey's new toy

TOMMYS

HELLO,I WENT TO THE SHOW SUNDAY AS PLANNED.I MET "POSTALPINTO"HE WAS REALLY A NICE PERSON.FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW HIM,HE OWNS AN EX-MAILMAN PINTO........I WAS A LITTLE DISSAPOINTED IN THE SHOW THIS TIME.I DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING REALLY INTERESTING THERE.I AM SPOILED B Y THE SPRING SHOW.SEEMS LIKE THE WEATHER MAY KEEP A LOT OF THE VENDORS FROM GOING TO THE WINTER SHOW.(I DON'T BLAME THEM) THE COOLEST THING THAT I FOUND AND DID NOT BUY WAS A N.O.S. RIGHTSIDE QUARTER PANEL FOR A PINTO SEDAN.THE GUY WAS ASKING $250.00 FOR IT.HE OFFERED IT TO ME FOR $150.00.I JUST COULDN'T SPEND THAT MUCH ON IT RIGHT NOW.I DID BUY A SSHAKER SCOOP FRO M ALATE MODEL MACH 1 MUSTANG.ANYWAYS,I HOPE THERE WILL BE MORE STUFF COME MARCH.

r4pinto

Just got home from the swap meet  although I got the  77 Ford shop manual set & a map light for the Pinto I struck out with anything else. Oh well, can't say I'm suprised. Looked for you Harley but didn't see you anywhere today.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

It sucks you didn't see too many Pinto parts there, but good that there are lots of Mustang parts since my dad & I are bringing a guy he works with that owns a 66 Mustang. Told him about the swap meet a few weeks ago & he got excited of the possibilities.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

bbobcat75

i went to the show today as well not too many parts for me, but a lot of mustang parts, plus its hard to buy anything and thne get on a plane and fly home with it. i did find a lot of litature and some key blanks and that was about it. the bobcat was nice but to buy and ship for me would be way to much, need more nice cars down south. everything is up north, i sometimes wish i still lived up there in cleveland till i think about how much snow was there when i landed  a week ago thursday
snow sucks and its cold
thanks
eric
1975 mercury bobcat 2.8 auto
1975 ford pinto - drag car - 2.3l w/t5 trans - project car

Starliner

I was there Saturday.   I drove my beater 73 1600 down from the Detroit area.   

Pintony left a card on my window with his phone number.   I left my cell phone back at home in my other jacket so I could not call him.  I wanted to meet Pintony, the king of everything Pinto!    So my opologies that I missed you.

I seen a yellow Pinto being worked on near one of the buildings.  There was someone underneath getting soaked in gas as I passed by.   I looked under the hood and made some smart-azzed comment as I ran by.   I had to run to find a teller machine with some cash to buy something before someone else snagged it!    After I made my purchase I headed back to where the yellow Pinto was and it was gone.

There was a blue Pinto for sale that looked pretty good.  Anyone here?   

I bought a Cobra jet scoop & some 61 Ford chrome headlight surrounds for my Volvo P1800 Es project. 
There was a 427 SOHC still in the crate, though a little corroded.  They only wanted $35K   :hypno:
1973 Pinto 1600 - Sold!  
1979 Pinto 2300 - Sold!
1984 Audi 5000 Avant - 60,000 original miles
1987 Audi 5000 S Quattro - The snowmobile
1973 Volvo 1800 ES wagon -  my project car
1976 Mustang II - Wifey's new toy

bbobcat75

im going tomrorrow, i happy to see theres some parts and a bobcat wagon hopfully its orAnge


eric
1975 mercury bobcat 2.8 auto
1975 ford pinto - drag car - 2.3l w/t5 trans - project car

blupinto

Wish I could go... sounds like fun... :'(
One can never have too many Pintos!

pintoman

Just got home from the show for set up.There are Pinto parts and Pinto's.There is a Bobcat wagon for sale for $1800,it seems to be in real good shape.The owner sells die cast cars in the AG_HORT building.Hope to meet most every-one coming to the show if not all of you.I will be in the AG_HORT most of the weekend.
05 Pigon Forge Meet, 06 Carlile Meet Coordinator 06-07 Carlile Regional, Brief Case Award (ask)

r4pinto

Thanks for the tip Harley. Got it printed off for the guy my dad & I are bringing on Sunday. See you then.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

pintoman

For all of you guys coming  on Sunday,go to www.unitedfordowners.com or to Superswap.com.There is a coupon in there to get in for free.Make a copy of it and bring it with you.This is for Sunday only.P.S. I will try and get over to the Cracker Barrel on Sunday morning and meet you guys.
05 Pigon Forge Meet, 06 Carlile Meet Coordinator 06-07 Carlile Regional, Brief Case Award (ask)

r4pinto

I prolly shoulda mentioned I'll be there on Sunday. Dunno why but I have always gone on Sunday instead of Saturday. Maybe this time vendors won't be leaving before the end of the swap meet.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

bbobcat75

ill be there saturday for sure any of you guys looking for chorme and trim parts for your pinto ill have them with me, then shipping the rest before i fly back to fl
hope to see you there
eric
1975 mercury bobcat 2.8 auto
1975 ford pinto - drag car - 2.3l w/t5 trans - project car

TOMMYS

MATT,ARE YOU PLANNING ON GOING SUNDAY?DID DINO SAY THAT HE IS GOING?HE HASN'T WENT WITH US FOR LIKE THE LAST 2 YEARS.I HOPE HE IS...GOING.I'LL HAVE TO CALL HIM SUNDAY.ANYWAYS,I'LL LOOK FOR YOU ON SUNDAY.I'LL BE WITH MY FRIEND STEVE(ALSO FORMERLY OF TROY FROD PARTS DEPT.)LATER TOMMYS.

pintoman

I would love to meet you there,but i have to be at the fair grounds by 6:30.I only live 10 minutes from the Cracker barrel.
05 Pigon Forge Meet, 06 Carlile Meet Coordinator 06-07 Carlile Regional, Brief Case Award (ask)

falconwagon62

Hey All,

the Falcon Club and I (a CM) will be meeting at Exit 100 Stringtown Rd. Cracker Barrel at 7 am-7:30 feel free to stop in......I will be wearing my Falcon Hat, and my Blue long sleeve PCCA shirt, 513-312-8799  John Howard may bring the 1978 Pinto Squire along as well.......



Quote from: TOMMYS on November 21, 2008, 11:44:52 AM
JUST A QUESTION,IS ANYONE PLANNING ON ATTENDING THE ALL-FORD SWAP MEET IN COLUMBUS,OH.ON THE NOV.29-30 WEEKEND? I'LL BE THERE ON SUNDAY.HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE SOME PINTO STUFF THERE TO SEE.I'LL HAVE ON MY PCCA HAT,IF ANYONE SEES ME,FEEL FREE TO SAY HELLO.THANKS TOMMYS.
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FlyerPinto

Hey Tommy,

I'm planning on being there as well. I ran into Dino at dinner tonight and he brought up the show as well. I'll be looking for you guys!

FlyerPinto
1977 Bobcat HB
1977 Bobcat HB
1978 Pinto Cruising Wagon

So many projects, so little time...

r4pinto

Hey Harley,

Dad & I will be there to see what else I can get for the car. We also will be dragging along a guy he works with that has a 66 Mustang that I have been working on. Odds are he will be able to get more parts for his Mustang than I for my Pinto but it's all about having fun.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

pintoman

I will be in the Ag-Hort building all weekend and Postal Pony will be in the Buckeye building.He has a both there with Pinto parts.So stop by and say hello.
05 Pigon Forge Meet, 06 Carlile Meet Coordinator 06-07 Carlile Regional, Brief Case Award (ask)

TOMMYS

JUST A QUESTION,IS ANYONE PLANNING ON ATTENDING THE ALL-FORD SWAP MEET IN COLUMBUS,OH.ON THE NOV.29-30 WEEKEND? I'LL BE THERE ON SUNDAY.HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE SOME PINTO STUFF THERE TO SEE.I'LL HAVE ON MY PCCA HAT,IF ANYONE SEES ME,FEEL FREE TO SAY HELLO.THANKS TOMMYS.