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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Quote from: Mark78cat on November 17, 2008, 05:46:27 PM
Chris,

I pulled the entire dash and pulled the dash pad off. It was easy but with one caveat and that is that I pulled my windshield out first because my gasket was completely cracked and dry rotted. This gave me easy access to the top of the dash where a few small screws hold in the top of the dash. I don't know if you can get to them while the windshield is in the car by lifting up the bottom of the gasket. They are small, hex headed screws and there are five or six of them.

The rest of the dash is pretty straightforward and I can talk/walk you through it when you are ready if somebody else can answer the question about the windshield gasket. I pulled my gauge pod out which helps with the light/wiper switch removal, dropped the column and there are 5 bolts that hold the bottom of the dash in, 1 at each end, 2 above the console and one small one directly above the steering column. That's pretty much it.

I'll take a few pictures so you can see the bolt locations and what you can expect with the dash out and apart and then out and together.

Mark

Mark:

  I DO plan to remove my windshield as well to change the gasket, so it will be convenient to remove the dash at that time. If/when you can share pics I would greatly appreciate it - that would be very helpful. Glad you are making such awesome progress!!

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

Mark78cat

Tigger,

Thanks for the pictures and the comments, both were very helpful.

Mark

TIGGER

Below are pictures of the carpet that is attached to the back of the rear seat.  The top of the carpet is attached into a punched out channel that is in the seat frame.  There is a piece of plastic that is sewn to the back of the carpet that fits into the channel.  The lower portion is screwed down.  There are also some plastic pieces that are sewn to the back for the lower portion.  The first two pics are of the replacement piece that Dave1987 sold me.  The third and fourth pic are of what is left of the original piece that came out of my CW.  The last one is a closeup on the lower plastic piece.  I hope this helps you.
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

TIGGER

Mark here are some pictures I took today.  The cargo mat clips on back of the filler plate via a plastic channel that is sewn to the carpet. See the pictures below.
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

75bobcatv6

the local "hot rod" upholstery shop here will do my Seats how i want them for 150 a Piece. and 225 for the rears.  new carpet all the way is another 200 or so. I would shop around for a better price. No matter how good he is thats a rip off imo.  There are people who do the same quality work for alot less.

TIGGER

Mark, I have been under the weather lately so I have not had a chance to take the pics you requested.  I did find an older pic of the cargo mat after I cleaned it up.  I will get you the others hopefully tomorrow.
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

77turbopinto

2K including NOS fabric/material for quality work for all 4 seats sounds very reasonable to me. Some of the cloth sells for $75. and up (way up) per linear yard.

Just my $.02  (hey, now all you need is $1,999.98)


Bill
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dave1987

$2000 for having the seats redone sounds very excessive!

I got a quote from a upholstery shop a town over and he does a lot of hot rod and classic interior restoration. He quoted me $300 for both of my front seats, but it could be a little more since I would have to order the center inserts (which I would order from SMS fabrics). I would look around a bit and see if you can get "samples" of another shops work.
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Mark78cat

Chris,

I pulled the entire dash and pulled the dash pad off. It was easy but with one caveat and that is that I pulled my windshield out first because my gasket was completely cracked and dry rotted. This gave me easy access to the top of the dash where a few small screws hold in the top of the dash. I don't know if you can get to them while the windshield is in the car by lifting up the bottom of the gasket. They are small, hex headed screws and there are five or six of them.

The rest of the dash is pretty straightforward and I can talk/walk you through it when you are ready if somebody else can answer the question about the windshield gasket. I pulled my gauge pod out which helps with the light/wiper switch removal, dropped the column and there are 5 bolts that hold the bottom of the dash in, 1 at each end, 2 above the console and one small one directly above the steering column. That's pretty much it.

I'll take a few pictures so you can see the bolt locations and what you can expect with the dash out and apart and then out and together.

Mark

popbumper

A few comments.....

1) $2k for seats? Pass....I was fortunate enough to buy a car that already had the front seats redone. Of course, for what I paid...never mind....

2) Repainted dash - tell me more, tell me more! Did you >remove< the entire metal dashboard and redo it? If so, can you elaborate on the difficulty of it/where the tricky part(s) were, what you had to do? I want to ask because I am very much wanting to pull my own dash and redo it...

Of course, if you mean the dash CAP - I have done that alreday.

Thanks! This group is GREAT for sharing info.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

Mark78cat

Chris,

I have samples from SMS for the seats but my upholstery guy told me around $2,000 to do the seats!!!!!!!!! I told you he was high end   :) I hate to go elsewhere because he has done great work for me in the past but the Bobcat simply can't afford new clothes that pricey.

I haven't shopped prices around here in NW Chicago yet for redoing the seats but I am going to have to make a decision soon because the car is almost done. I plan on reinstalling the repainted dash this weekend and then have the window reinstalled with the new gasket.

Mark78cat

Tigger,

I would really appreciate the pictures along with close ups of the way the carpet is attached to the seat back and the little filler panel. Also the way the hinge piece is sewn together.

Thanks!

Mark

TIGGER

My dad's 79 wagon came with the rubber mat in the cargo area.  My CW has carpet.  The carpet is actually in three pieced but two of them are sewn together.  There is one piece that goes on the back of the seat.  The other piece attaches to the filler panel and is attached to the cargo carpet via ~ 1.5" piece of vinyl that acts as the hinge when the seat is up.  All the pieces have an edge that is sewn around the carpet.  I can take some pics of if you want?
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

popbumper

Mark:

  It would have been plush; loop was in the early 70's. Check out SMS auto fabrics (smsautofabrics.com); I know you may already have material but these guys have all original material, vinyls, headliners, carpet, windlace, etc.

Good luck!

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

Mark78cat

Chris,

Thanks for the suggestions. If the carpet required binding, I planned on having my upholstery guy do it. While I know he is knowledgable with higher end cars, I don't know how familiar he is with the Pinto/Bobcat and without a template to work from it might be problematical for him. Still, it's worth a shot.

Do you know if the original material for the 1978 Pinto/Bobcat is plush or loop? I bought the plush because I like it better but I'm curious about which was stock.

Mark

popbumper

Hi Mark:

  I won't be alot of help here other to confirm that I am up against the same issues with my 1976 Pinto wagon. My suggestion to you (as I am going to do this myself) is to visit an upholstery shop and let them tell you what you will need. I am purchasing all of my carpet from SMS auto fabrics, and then handing the stuff over to a shop - where I know it will be done correctly. Best wishes on your efforts.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

Mark78cat

My 1978 Bobcat wagon did not come with cargo area carpet (at least I don't think so - my seat back is covered in black rubber) so I need some basic help in getting it installed correctly. I'm  looking for confirmation/suggestions on the following: First, it appears from pictures that the carpet is in three pieces - one for the cargo floor, one for the back of the rear seat and one for the filler panel between the floor and the rear seat when the seat is folded flat. Second, it also appears that all three pieces have edge binding on them but I can't tell for sure and with what material. Third, I need to know how the carpet is attached to these three areas.

Auto Custom Carpet does not make a kit for the wagon so I bought a large piece of material to have it done by a local shop if necessary.

Thanks in advance,

Mark Wall