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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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fomogo

Hi guys... I will see if I can get a decent contengent from turbopinto also when the time comes, a lot of my members are members here so it shouldn't be a problem.
I will do what I can to help make sure this is a meet to remember.


Jim
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r4pinto

As I mentioned before count me in. I am looking forward to going to it in three years and I also think a convoy of Pintos sounds like a great idea. Count me in on that.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
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78squirewagon

You know, since it's 3 years away, there MIGHT be another Bobcat there. I cannot and will not make promises though  :lol: :lol:
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1978 Hatchback, red (built four days after  the Squire)

75bobcatv6

thanks phil. bobcats are kinda rare lol.. seems to be more rare then the pinto. although mine isnt stock nor will it be =) going to be on 15in 5 lug torq thrust d's and look like a street rod i hope. i just hope its not in primer when its time to go..

phils toys

Quote from: 75bobcatv6 on October 16, 2008, 02:11:11 PM
if we are doing the convoy method let me know what the cost would be. i will gladly do that. I want my car to make it even if i have to get a rental to drive there or *gulp* take a plane. as far as what cars get the indoor honor why not hold a vote for that ? let the members vote for their favorite pinto's in confidentiality, then tally it all up and choose from the ones with the most votes? that would be the fair way to do it. I am really looking forward to bringing the bobcat with me to this event.
It would be Great to see another Bobcat there  I am getting lonly being the only one , And an Early Welcome  to PA See you in a couple years.
Quote from: 78squirewagon on October 16, 2008, 02:58:20 PM
It's something I would like to do if there is a truck possibly going through the Midwest. I am sure a couple of people would jump on that.
But like another person said, I cannot plan three days ahead let alone three years LOL!!! However, it's a long ways off and it never hurts to get started early
Bring the woody  I am not afraid of compition  Also i would like to see another woody  . 3 yrs and the  only woody .  But that is the Great  part   for all the time i have been to carlisle there have  not been  2  Pintos the same.  BRING them ALL  I WANT TO SEE MORE.......
I might even  have 2 running  by then.      :lol:
Phil
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Norman Bagi

Bill,

If that is the way they do it, that deffinitely sounds the fairest way of doing it, since it is their show.  So with 3+ years to go, how long do you think this will thread, any bets?  250+ pages?

78squirewagon

It's something I would like to do if there is a truck possibly going through the Midwest. I am sure a couple of people would jump on that.
But like another person said, I cannot plan three days ahead let alone three years LOL!!! However, it's a long ways off and it never hurts to get started early
1978 Squire wagon,red, 69000 and counting original miles

1978 Hatchback, red (built four days after  the Squire)

77turbopinto

I believe that Carlisle Events decides what cars are displayed indoors.

From what I remember, they will ask for people to submit applications for those indoor spots reserved for the 'celebration' for that event weekend. I think the cars that are indoors do not get voted on like normal classes.



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75bobcatv6

if we are doing the convoy method let me know what the cost would be. i will gladly do that. I want my car to make it even if i have to get a rental to drive there or *gulp* take a plane. as far as what cars get the indoor honor why not hold a vote for that ? let the members vote for their favorite pinto's in confidentiality, then tally it all up and choose from the ones with the most votes? that would be the fair way to do it. I am really looking forward to bringing the bobcat with me to this event.

Pinto1600

Rearended,
           As of now there are no inside spots arranged,however we will be talking with Carlisle Productions on this point. Here is where you,and the club will be called upon. This event will need a large sum of cars to turn out. From your daily drivers to the muesum pieces and ALL in between. If there are inside spaces offered to us,I believe and I hope you'll agree with me that the club must deside which Pintos will be given this honor. The balance of the club cars will be given(I believe) a special spot on the show field to group the cars. So as of now this is still an unknown factor. Thanks for your input,and if you'd like to volunteer for a department head I'd be very honored with your help.
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Norman Bagi

June 2011, sounds awesome, count me in.  I do like the transport idea, just the thought of a convoy of car carriers crossing the country filled with pintos, that would be a site many would not soon forget. 

Have we secured a building?

Rear Ended............

NoForKin

hello all
                i am there for the 40th ann. of our beloved pintos and i want to help in anyway i can
                          get back to me
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Pinto1600

Good day guys,
                I'd like to get a few well place people involved in planning the 40th b'day bash. What we need to do is have "department" heads,overseeing the various plans that need to be taken care of. I know we are 3+ years out,but we need to be on top of this party to make it a great success. What I propose is this....

East and West coast car transport
Lodging
Saturday night dinner party
Media display/promotion
Awards
Activities/events
Membership/vehicle sign up
Carlisle point person/persons  -- myself and/or Harley

Right now that's all I can think of. This list is open to changes as needed. We all need to work together and give our club our best efforts,to show Ford and our fellow Blue Oval cousin's we can run with the big dog's. Looking foward to hearing from all of you soon.
Happiness is..Driving a classic Pinto

CHEAPRACER

I'm already in discussion with the wife-to-be and my car will be ready. We may just make a go of it. I think this will be part of history and will get some kind of coverage which will make it even better.  I will know as time grows closer.

Jim
Cheapracer is my personality but you can call me Jim '74 Pinto, stock 2.3 turbo, LA3, T-5, 8" 3:55 posi, Former (hot) cars: '71 383 Cuda, 67 440 Cuda, '73 340 Dart, '72 396 Vega, '72 327 El Camino, '84 SVO, '88 LX 5.0

Tercin

I am interested in at least attending, can't guarantee having my car there though.I have not received a reply from my car hauling friend.

Tercin
The only Pinto I have
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dga57

Events in my life nowdays are such that I seldom know three days in advance what I will or will not be able to do, let alone three years!  With that said, however, it is my intention to be in attendance for this event.  Whether my Pinto gets there or not will depend entirely upon whether or not it's ready by then.  Mechanically it's okay but it still needs lots of cosmetic work before showing it publicly - have bought pretty much everything needed to do the job (except paint) but simply haven't been able yet to find the time necessary to put it all together.  Hopefully things will improve over the next year or two so I can get her ready. 
Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

75bobcatv6

I have actually been working hard over the last few weeks at getting funds to make my car Streetable and "presentable" for this meet. "if" i Can manage the time off to drive there. If not i will Fly in and participate anyways. if there is anything i can do i will help anyway i can. let me know

Scott Hamilton

Welcome- if you are reading this than you are in a group that has been given access to this special planning board for the 40th anniversary of the Pinto at Carisle.

As most of you already know, Phil is the Coordinator and Harley is the Co-Coordinator of this unprecedented event.

Phil and Harley will be deligating tasks to individuals as we grow and cement everything together thought the coming months. You will see members with "PCCA Meet Counsel" placards associated with their accounts here giving them access into many areas of our site so we can work together to get the job done. The Admins and Charter Members will work together to support Phil & Harley's effort in anyway we can.


MUCH has happend already- MUCH is planned- Details are VERY slim considering the time frame but it's completely safe to say---

"You want to be a part of this event!"

Sound off- Let Phil & Harley your thoughts and if you plan to participate.
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