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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

5X4.5 Front Rotors-Exactly what will work, and what mods if any are needed?

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licketysplit

Hey Russ, The nice thing about the Ranger rearend is lower gears! I have a 93 Ranger with a 2.3L, 5 speed and it has a 8.8 rearend with 3.45 gears in it and it seems to be a limited slip! THINK SON - THANK????? Howard

russosborne

Thanks. I thought so, but I don't have much luck when I assume anything. :-)
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

Turbo Toy

Quote from: russosborne on September 25, 2008, 12:45:33 AM
I saw these. They look good, but do they fit the stock Pinto calipers? The ad specifically stated spindles.
Thanks,
Russ

YES!

russosborne

Quote from: licketysplit on September 23, 2008, 02:16:11 AM
As for the rearend, a Ford Ranger is 5 lug and there 56" wide, the Pinto is 57" wide on the hub face.  Howard

Thanks, Howard.
I already have a Mustang rear that I hope to use. It is from a 1968, so it is a bit wider, but that shouldn't be a problem. Just have to go with more backspacing.
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

russosborne

Quote from: Turbo Toy on September 23, 2008, 04:41:35 AM
These are the best buy on the market.

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/1964,271_5-Bolt-Mustang-II-Rotors.html

I saw these. They look good, but do they fit the stock Pinto calipers? The ad specifically stated spindles.
Thanks,
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.


licketysplit

Hey Russ. There are after market 5 lug rotors that will fit your 79 Pinto that the street rod guys use with the Mustang 2 front ends. As for the rearend, a Ford Ranger is 5 lug and there 56" wide, the Pinto is 57" wide on the hub face. The only thing is you will need to watch your back space on the rear wheels to run the Ranger rearend! You will need to run no more then a 3" back space on your rear wheels. Howard

russosborne

Well, what I read on this site says that they are 57 inches wide drum face to drum face. I haven't gotten adventurous enough yet to get under my 79 and measure.
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

popbumper

Hey Russ:

  What is the drum face to drum face width for the stock Pinto rear end? (in this case, a 1976 wagon, with a factory rear end, I think 6.75").

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

russosborne

Thanks.

So from all of the  links you provided I gather that there is no rotor I can go to the local parts store and buy and install.I am just looking for a stock sized rotor, from what I have read here that would be a nine inch diameter.  I will look on Ebay as you suggested, but I won't be buying from there. I no longer support Ebay at all. So if you know of any other place I would appreciate hearing about them.

I got the wrong Mustang II info from here, shows that you can't believe everything you read. Which I already knew. I am still learning who's posts here are worth the electrons that were used to post them. :-)

The faq on the rear end swap did help me decide to go for a Mustang rear end. I know about the rear, it is a 68. The 67 to 70 are narrower than the 71 to 73. The widths for that year aren't that far apart from the Pinto, one inch wider on each side if the information I have found on this site is good. The reason I got it for that price is that the guy had it in his basement but hasn't had a Mustang for years. He had put a 9 inch in his Mustang and had this one left over. 8 inch rears in Mustangs aren't that popular, performance people upgrade to the 9 inch. A 65/66  rear would have been nicer, but I can't afford to be that choosy at this point. If one turns up before I put this one in the car I will use it. I have an offer of one, for free, but the guy is still using it in his Mustang, and isn't sure when he will be doing the 9 inch upgrade.

For anyone who needs the info, here are the early (65-73) Mustang rear end widths, note that these are drum face to drum face. Subtract 5 inches for flange to flange
65-66... 57 1/4"
67-70... 59 1/4"
71-73... 61 1/4"

measurement is drum face to drum face.
And the spring perch width is 43 inches for all those years. 

Thanks,
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

77turbopinto

Quote from: russosborne on August 31, 2008, 04:52:58 PM
Not having much luck with the searching here.
1979 Pinto.
Someone mentioned using Mustang ll's with some work, but at least on Autozones site they only show 4 lug and that was when I said it had a V8.

Someone else had a set of Granadas but wasn't sure if they were stock.

Are there some that will just bolt on and work with the stock Pinto calibers and spindles, or if not just what do I need to do? I just picked up a Mustang 8 inch rear end, so the rear is covered. It was only $20, so I couldn't pass it up.  :amazed: Sometimes it helps knowing Mustang people.  :lol:

Hopefully someone can give me an exact answer so I can at least start planning on what I need. This car is a daily driver, so I will need to have everything ready to go when I am able to do this.

Thanks,
Russ

"5 lug" search results:

http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php/topic,1103.0.html

http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php/topic,953.0.html

http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php/topic,5954.0.html

http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php/topic,1645.0.html

http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php/topic,8523.0.html

http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php/topic,8345.0.html

http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php/topic,6213.0.html

http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php/topic,7534.0.html

The Mustang II has 4 lug (ALL).

Granada rotors came on Granadas, and Mavericks.

There are companies that sell a stock sized 74 and later "PINTO" rotor with 5 on 4.5" that will bolt right on a Pinto, but thats IT. Ebay is a good place to look.

There are NO 5 lug Mustang rears that will 'DIRECT-BOLT' into a Pinto (NO modifications). If you got a 5 lug rear from a Mustang for that price, it was MOST likely a 67-73 rear which is significatly wider than the Pinto rear (I HAD one, did not like it). The early Mustang rear is only slightly wider, but is still not a "bolt-in."

Bill

Thanks to all U.S. Military members past & present.

russosborne

Not having much luck with the searching here.
1979 Pinto.
Someone mentioned using Mustang ll's with some work, but at least on Autozones site they only show 4 lug and that was when I said it had a V8.

Someone else had a set of Granadas but wasn't sure if they were stock.

Are there some that will just bolt on and work with the stock Pinto calibers and spindles, or if not just what do I need to do? I just picked up a Mustang 8 inch rear end, so the rear is covered. It was only $20, so I couldn't pass it up.  :amazed: Sometimes it helps knowing Mustang people.  :lol:

Hopefully someone can give me an exact answer so I can at least start planning on what I need. This car is a daily driver, so I will need to have everything ready to go when I am able to do this.

Thanks,
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.