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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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This is in answer to your question on bump steer.  I do not understand this and will just try to describe what the books show to do in order to avoid bump steer.  Look at the car from the front and draw a line between the upper A-arm inner pivot and the lower A-arm inner pivot, the rack inner pivot is suppose to fall on this line.  Draw a line between the upper ball joint and the lower ball joint, the steering knuckle at the spindle is suppose to fall on this line.  In order to lower the rack, you would need a shorter rack section (distance between the rack inner pivots) and longer tie rods (distance from rack inner pivot to the steering knuckle at the spindle).  One book goes further and shows that lines drawn through the upper A-arm, tie rod, and lower A-arm are suppose to be angled so that they all intersect at the same point.  Very confusing.

Fortunately per your new thread, you will not need to relocate the rack.  Neat project.
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

Ironman

Quote from: Pintony on August 07, 2008, 10:46:19 AM
Hello Ironman,
I have ABANDONED THE fOCUS dohc IN FAVOR OF A DIFFERENT POWERPLANT..
From Pintony

Ok, I didnt know you were interested in putting one in.

I'm starting another thread to cover the installation and whatever info I come up with.

From IRONMAN
Ironman

Ironman

Quote from: Pintony on August 07, 2008, 09:19:21 AM
All the duratec engines installed in Ford cars-trucks are mazda engines... RIGHT????
The 2.3 is installed in the Focus
The 2.0 has the intake on the firewall side and the 2.3 is on the radiater side.
From Pintony

Negative,

Allthough the Duratec is a Mazda design,.. the engine is manufactured by Both Mazda and Ford for both Mazda and Ford,.. which are really one and the same. Kind of confusing huh? The engine is global, but there seems to be different opinions on what is available where. Some sources say no 2.3 in europe, others indicate it is available.

As far as the 2.0 goes, I'm still searching info. I'm not sure if there were pictures improperly placed,.. but it looks as though the 2.0 may have come both ways as far as intake/exhaust orientation. But as I said I'm still unsure.

OldKayaker,

Me and Apintonut were discussing the back of engine clearance issues last night. If it gets down to it firewall work will be the answer. I'm really hoping to plant this thing with minimal mods to the existing chassis. I'm heading to the Junk yard today with my tape measure. They have several out on the shelf. They forwarned me "there are several versions" of the engine, with intake and exhaust being on opposite sides, and other changes. What I'm hopeful of is there are two versions of the 2.0L,.. I'd much rather have the intake on the drivers side.

I'm hip to the bump steer issue,.. if there were "stantions" attached to the spindle at the point the tie rod connects that lowered the same distance the rack drops, wouldnt that allieviate any problems as long as there arnt any clearance issues?
Ironman

oldkayaker

First off, I do not have a clue if the Duratec will fit in a Pinto. 

That is an amazing video.  It looks like water leaves the Focus engine from the rear of the head which might create a interference issue with the fire wall.  Not sure how they handle this in the Ranger. 

If you end up with a balancer equipped engine, this link indicates that it can be done away with.
http://www.focussport.com/cosworth-deletekit.htm

As to lowering the rack 2", the suspension books claim this will mess up the bump steer.  This Pinto thread talks about it some.
http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php/topic,6073.0.html

Good luck and take many measurements before committing to this experiment.
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

Ironman

Quote from: Pintony on August 07, 2008, 12:09:25 AM
REALLY!!!
What do you call this????

It is a balancing device that is unique to the Mazda version of the Duratec, (2.3L only) which also has sequential valve timing. All other manufactures of the 2.3 Duratec, including European models are without this piece, or the sequential valve timming.
None of the 2.0 engines are fitted with it.  :search:

This is a common Duratec engine

http://www.truveo.com/moteur-duratec-HE-4-cylinder-PFI-de-ford/id/3418346542

Ironman

Ironman



If it becomes nessasary to dry sump the engine, I'll subtract the depth of the pan from the overall,.. and I'll have about an inch and a half clearance under my 71 hood.

Apintonut also believes the rack can be lowered about 2 inches, and I tend to agree. If it becomes nessasary I'll have to come up with some kind of adapter for the tie rods so the suspension geometry stays the same.

Hopefully between Me, Brian,.. and  imput from all you out there, this will work.  I dont see it as "impossible". Who knows,.. we might even stumble upon a new super easy conversion. lol,.. ok now I'm probably too far in fantasy land.

I guess I'll find out.

BTW
There is no "balance device" in the sump that will interefere with the crossmember.

Ironman

Ironman

Pintony,

The bottom end clearance was one of the first things I took into consideration, along with motor mounts, ignition coil mounts, intake and exhaust clearance.

I have seen the exploded view of the 2.0, 2.3, and 2.5L engines. I cant be certain without first hand experience,.. but I don't believe there is any kind of a clearance problem that cant be rectified by a dry sump. As far as I can tell the major issue with the oil sump is due to the crank being "cradled" in the block much like an FE. The engine is also designed to keep the crank out of the oil. they even went as far as to put the oil returns external to reduce drag on the crank from drain back. Hopefully this will make a dry sump a very simple matter with an almost flat pan.

I hope to have one of these engines by next week,.. Brian is going to loan me a T-5 for "fit up" purposes. The only expenditure I might have trouble re couping if it doesn't work will be the bellhousing to adapt the T-5.
Ironman

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Ironman

Thanx so very much for the Duratec suggestion OldKayaker,..

I'm stoked!!  I was outbid on the 4X4 Cosworth Head,.. ( luckily ) I see a trip to the junkyard to find a Focus.

Also appreciate the link to the bellhousing, makes putting a 5 speed behind it very easy.

Been doing some reading today, and It seems 200hp plus a couple is very doable from this engine without any internal mods. Man I'm ear to ear grin.

The sweet part is there seems to be some very active development for racing this engine, and parts will be readily available in the USA.

I included this excerpt from a web page at SB performance.


Tuning

You'd expect there to be plenty of scope for tuning the Duratec. Well, good news - there is. Up to a point anyway. Put simply, you don't have to do much to wring out the power, as SB Developments has done back-to-back tests all on the same day, after extensive preparation. By junking the standard induction system, which is intended for serious emissions control only, and replacing it with traditional induction methods, you can achieve truly staggering results.

With a pair of 45 DCOE side draught carbs and managed ignition they got 170 bhp - that's 25 bhp over standard. By taking them off and fitting parallel throttle bodies the figure then went to 195 bhp. Then, after replacing them with SBD's own tapered throttle bodies, the power increased to 208 bhp. This, of course, is all on a completely standard engine with no other mods. The Duratec engine we have run has been testing in two forms, parallel throttle bodies which produced an output of approximately 195 bhp and then running the engine on tapered throttle bodies produced 203 bhp (this was used in the American SAE corrections). The implications of this are obvious. The engine is effectively a plug and play unit. If you want to compete in motorsport and are looking for an efficient unit then the Duratec could well be an option. With secondhand low-mileage units retailing at around £700, all you need after that is £1781.90 (plus VAT) of induction. It's kit that's unlikely to break or wear out in a hurry either.

If you're unfortunate enough to blow the engine then all you need do is unbolt it and replace it with another. Compare that to tuning a traditional Ford engine such as a Pinto. To get in excess of 200 bhp you'd need eight grand-plus. And, if all you wanted was a good high powered plant, you could do the dirty and switch to H**nda power - then all you'd need is 'only' around five grand for a basic V-Tech unit. Put in these terms, the Duratec seems like a cheap motorsport unit.
Ironman

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One of the most over looked engines the Lotus/Ford 1.6  twin cam. If you look there's a few of these engines out there cheap.







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oldkayaker

Ironman,

If it is just a twin cam engine you are after, there are alternatives.  Below are a few other Ford possibilities.

The 89 to 91 Volvo B234F twin cam head can be modified to fit the Ford 2.3 engine.  I believe I have seen some Pintos set up with this head.  You have to join the Yahoo group to look through this link.
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/2300-16V/

The Ford Duratec and Zetec are also available state side.  I have not seen this swap in a Pinto yet.  This link may help with a swap.
http://quad4rod.accountsupport.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=3&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=31
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

Ironman

Hey Pintony,..

Are you lookin for an entire Cosworth engine or just the Head?

I'm bidding on one right now.
Ironman

Ironman

Thanks Paul,..

There is an Aluminum YB block still available from Cosworth USA,.. but the wallet couldn't bear that kind of project. It also seems the cylinder head is no longer available.

Please post pics of your Coswoth project when you get it together,..Or even before its together.  I'd like to see it.

I'd love to put together a twin cam sedan,..I think it would be very sexy.

I read an article about naturally aspirated Cosworth on the Burton site. Looked like 225 hp was not difficult. What floored me was they have Sierra's with a stage chip that are buzzing around the streets of England with 340 HP.  I'm a little in my own fantasy world here,.. but I'm envisioning an 1,900 pound Sedan with 300 hp at the rear wheels. Thats kind of scary,..... in a very appealing way!  :smile:

BTW Pintny,..

I found 1 complete cosworth RS for sale in the UK for around $2000.00 dollars.

I have no Idea what it would cost to ship,.. but that issue is moot at any rate because the seller has it as pick up only.

Ironman

cossiepinto

I bought a complete normally-aspirated Cosworth YB from Cosworth in Torrance, CA.  It came ready to assemble, complete from carbs to pan.  I bought the ignition (mech advance distributor, coil, amplifIer) and a Tilton flywheel at the time of purchase, but I think everything else was standard issue.  I don't think Cosworth supplies that engine as a complete kit any more, since they've been concentrating on the Zetec series engines.

But, you can still find them elsewhere, like on ebay.  I found one from an SCCA racer (coincidentally in my area) that was reasonably priced.  I didn't buy it, but now I wish I had, just for a spare.  It was on Webers, like mine.

You can also find them turbocharged, like they came originally in Cosworth passenger cars (Escorts and Sierras).  Make sure you get the wiring harness if you go that way.  There are US suppliers of YB engines and parts apart from the Cosworth folks, but you need a fat wallet.  Search for "Cosworth YB" on the 'net and ebay.

Incidentally, mine is finally going to be on the road by next spring/summer.

Paul (cossiepinto)


Ironman

I been snooping around the UK net, and it seems there are quit a few Cosworth "YB" engines and parts around.

My understanding is the Cosworth head is a straight bolt on for the 2.0.
Does anyone know about such things?

I've been told that the Capri XRTI also had the Cosworth package, and that car was sold stateside. So maybe some of that stuff is around.

Anyone know?
Ironman