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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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 A Sense of indignation roils across the Bunk House. The ranch is under assault with ever present Weather challenges, and the Ponies and the Hands are more than irritated. With the diversion of the racing world Speed weeks past, Now the anticipation for the pounding of the hooves across the prairie is kicking at the stalls. The use of the GranTurismo is reaching overload, Sneers have been traded as the attempts to dominate the terminals, leads to wry looks and more than a few cars taken to the lifts to burn off steam..
Soon the signs of spring will be ever present, Life will stage burnouts everywhere, the spirits of motorheads past will descend on the populace.. Serene driving style will follow and show circuits will begin..
Send the Pair o Dux out into the weather, the stable is for ponies , high and Dry 8)
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Another Winter Weekend, More flakes are falling in some land on the prairie ..
We'll be watching as the ranch hands welcome the Racing season, new motivations to prep the ponies for a season of optimism. The benches are full of new tools and the crates of parts are awaiting the talents of the stable masters everywhere. The load of barrels of solvents and the other sundries are on pallets in the back of the barn. Coffee brewing on the Bench, and a few Service manuals open to the science of the fuel mix. Knowledge will pour like an expresso into the hands of the motivated, work shall be done.
Time for planning trickles in while the Tube dispenses Rolex updates, the Barn is in Zen mode, all is well.
Pintosopher, A student of the unknown, inserting the DVD of enlightenment ;)
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Temps are Dippin' , the riders are Trippin', tires will be slippin' as the winter cycles through the ranch and the valley
In the Barn , the ponies are being groomed and prepped for the first signs of  spring. All things possible, but the reality of frost is ever present.
An new stove arrives and now the Barn heats up with Pellets and a fresh layer of tiles to keep the Hooves off the slab.
Another Service cart from a now defunct racing team rolls on the floor, moving to it's new home in the center of the barn. Loaded with Tools to keep the Hands busy in their maintenance of the Ponies, the gleam of new plating and Blued tempered steel has them mesmerized in awe.
The Cook hits the triangle and calls the crew to breakfast, the smell of Waffles , fresh Bacon & Eggs and Coffee is intoxicating. Cool, dry weather, means a busy morning, as the next storm arrives on Sunday.
USPS will be bring more parts and the future looks bright for the Shop Hare, a perpetual occupant in it's hutch in the back stall.
All quiet, for a weekend .. The hands will feast and plan the week.. ;)
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"Do I win something? ??? "
I'm sorry Wittsend, the contest ended January 15th. ::)

Quote from: pintosopher on January 16, 2018, 05:36:55 AM
Hmm Perhaps a lifetime subscription to "Heavy Metal" and some Dramamine?
LOL, NASCAR, 1950's to small block rule...Best heavy metal ever! 

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Quote from: Wittsend on January 15, 2018, 09:26:08 PM
The "S" turns just prior to going up the hill to turn 6 at Riverside? Yes, No? Do I win something? ???

Yes, turn 6 Riverside Raceway. My favorite spot to sit. I think Dan is in turn six at this point in the picture, it's been a while.

Pintosopher

Another frigid one and the riders are restless, ponies kickin the stalls... The stove roaring to heat the barn, many ideas circulating the rumor of a stampede in the Snow. The ranch foreman has ordered the Best in Rally rubber and the tire guy is siping the tread blocks for added traction.
Oversize flaps to protect the metal, and skid plates brought down from the loft, the rumor becomes reality. Compressors light up and the off road wheels are being mounted with fresh Grippy tires. Soon a pile of tractive rotating devices to be installed, are in the lift area.  The burp of Air guns and it begins to sound positively NASCAR in the main stable.
The snarl of Rally engines and smell of race fuel has filled the driveway, and the snow drifting begins. Roostertails pummel the windows of the Bunkhouse, and Heavy accents dominate the conversations. the main gate is open and the Haldas are reset for a Stage Stampede! Over a hundred miles of juice to burn up in sideways nirvana, the world is complete.. ;D
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Quote from: Wittsend on January 15, 2018, 09:26:08 PM
The "S" turns just prior to going up the hill to turn 6 at Riverside? Yes, No? Do I win something????
Hmm Perhaps a lifetime subscription to "Heavy Metal" and some Dramamine?
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The "S" turns just prior to going up the hill to turn 6 at Riverside? Yes, No? Do I win something????

Pintosopher

 Fog has settled in the Valley,
All quiet on a Sunday morn
Stableman counts the ponies, ever looking at the tally
A rustle in the back, as a newbie lights up
More coffee in the hand's morning cup
It'll be a mid January story, as the country tries to thaw
More cold is coming though, and the wind will be raw
The parade of lights has lit up the stalls,
Trickle chargers glow, and heat up the walls
A burp of the coffee signals a new day,
The bunkhouse hands , have Gran Turismo to play

Pintosopher.. Pickled this season, but sober as a Judge eating fudge
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The Skies are in flux, temps driving the ponies to huddle in the stable, windows hazed over cold due
All will be quiet, and the chimneys puff wood combustion, the costs we rue
The burp of an air gun has bounced the silence, wheels removed for Snow tire replacement
The cold on the kneecaps , is proof of cement
The clink of chains signals traction must be sought
And there's Pizza  for dinner, ready to be bought
The stars will gleam and the chill resurged
All the horses warm and the stall manure  be purged
Riders in the bunkhouse, we'll watch for their presence
The Suds will coat the tables, with cheery effervescence.
Pintosopher, Cookin Humor by the hour ;)
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Pintosopher

Quote from: one2.34me on January 04, 2018, 02:19:51 PM






Mmmmm...Bomb Cyclones!!!
Very Clever, Now where are the Donuts?  ;D
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Pintosopher

As the frozen grip of the Bomb Cyclone seizes the East, We offer a bit of interest and fantasy for the Riders in the Bunkhouse...
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Pintosopher

The frozen dawn greets a New Year, crackling are the sounds of ponies on the gravel driveway. A rustle in the hay signals the ranch is coming to life. Vapor rises as the stablemaster pours the first bucket of Wash soap. The stove heats yet another pot of Coffee. All the signs that renewal can be just a few months away, and the shop lights flicker as the ballasts surge with current.
Time is moving, but the still of the day's dawn appears suspended, a pause of infinite consequence. Another opportunity for the herd to gather and storm the prairie awaits, and the gates will be opened for the restless ponies again. So as the sky warms the roads of life, may your rides be long ,exhilarating, and safe.
Be wary, the feed truck comes this week , and the manure spreader is under repair :D

Pintosopher, Scribe to yet another tale of equine nirvana, gear changes at your pleasure ;)
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An aerial shot of Gearhead Stables best supply house.. Swipe that card and tip a few!
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Quote from: Reeves1 on December 30, 2017, 09:15:01 AM
Tooting your horns, I see  ;D

My pair are sitting , collecting dust this Xmas break.......took a "stumble" and damaged my left shoulder joint.
Take it easy, heal & back to work in a few days !
I hear the Trumpets a blowin' ( Honkin?)and the Saints aren't marchin' in yet ;D Hope you recover quickly.. Those Ponies need tending!
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Tooting your horns, I see  ;D

My pair are sitting , collecting dust this Xmas break.......took a "stumble" and damaged my left shoulder joint.
Take it easy, heal & back to work in a few days !

Pintosopher

Ahh the New Year Cometh..
The Young Colts are kickin the hooves of change, but the alpha Stallion gives no room in the Stable. Change will come, and the stable master will keep the peace in the ranch. The elves left on a hay wagon with a Hangover cure strapped in a barrel to the tailgate. Their job done for now, and the Bunkhouse is alive with New Years expectations from the Hands.
A semi pulls into the driveway.. The forklift powers up and the renaissance begins..
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Pintosopher

The Day after the food coma.. More elves crashed in the New shop,  hanging from the lifts and cord reel drops. Overdosed on peppermint schnapps and stuffed with Christmas cookies. They all passed out in a spiritual nirvana. The Ponies were rubbing the tires on the curbs and doing donuts in the snow. One cowboy with a Hoonigan sticker was catching long drifts while circling the ranch driveway..  All was as it should be, and the echoes of the Big Man were still ringing in the stable and bunkhouse.
A spiritual renaissance for all the riders and glee for the ponies as they rec'd the new fluids in the shop.. New Years was looming and the ponies were a grooming..
Silent and holy night indeed ,for all the residents of the Ranch..
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The Night was the longest, Day shortest..
The chill was evident coast to coast, But the Fragrance of good will and pine was everywhere. A semi pulled up and began to unload a pair of hoists for the Stables. The herd were out to pasture while the Elves began to assemble the Lifts of good composure and repair. The next truck brought the Building in a KD form from the Land of Tuff and it was laid out to
assemble around the slab with piles of fasteners and supplies. More elves arrived with a forklift and Boom crane. A massive catering van showed up and the Smell of Southern Breakfasts was wafting through the valley. Hot cocoa was steeping, coffee a brewing, and the cinnamon was intoxicating. A song was ever present on the lips of the elves " Building to the Maxes , They lowered my taxes!" .  Now as the day slowly warmed , the head elf went half buff and the lady elves sat stunned at the gazebo :o Life took a turn on this spiritual cascade of good will, and the many were comforted.
Another day , celebrating what can be , and what should be.

Pintosopher, Dreamin on the seasonal energy, wishing on a Star
Merry Christmas to all :)
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Quote from: dick1172762 on December 20, 2017, 10:47:51 AM
Standing on the corner in Winslow, Az when a girl (Jennifer?) came by in a flat bed truck. One of really great songs ever!!!!
I'm not sure, but at least she's driving a Ford product ;) Great song , legendary group , Foundation for my Philosophy of the music in my life.... :)
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Standing on the corner in Winslow, Az when a girl (Jennifer?) came by in a flat bed truck. One of really great songs ever!!!!
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

Pintosopher

The Corral is quiet, the frost on the Fence rails crackles in the thawing dawn. The sounds of the Wild Turkey in the woods, the orange blur of the Red fox as it pounces on a Mouse. All the sounds of the deepening of the winter days, and a season of restful reflection. A shimmer in the air as the fireplace chimney vents its heat to a vapor plume ,wafting across the valley sky.
Deep in the bowels of the Barn, the ponies are feeding on the sustenance of the many Trickle Chargers glowing in the shadows. In the upstairs loft, the stable master works feverishly on a new idea for the Herd, drafting a design for the resurrection of the Metal, horsepower to the wheels, and swift transit across the landscape of the world. More than the crowds can fathom, a passion of incessant activity to improve, upgrade and add value. Only the informed understand , and will follow every achievement.
A near scriptural reset of a myth that could revive a breed of compact equine motoring enthusiasm... ;)
Welcome to the land of the PCCA, Noble vehicle of swift horses, all welcome who ride! :
Pintosopher, Monk to the Following, written in the dust of the western wagon trails ;D
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If she runs for something on the national level, I'll vote for her!


Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

dick1172762

She would be the only one with any sense for sure!
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

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Quote from: cutelitlputtputt on December 19, 2017, 12:56:37 PM
This thread is a gift that just keeps on a givin"!!

Lucky I don't plan to run for public Office!!!!
My budding career would be cut short
One
Picture
at
a
time!!!  LOL!
I volunteer to form a committee to draft you for leadership on the Sacrament Oh Chapel of Stability ;D
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This thread is a gift that just keeps on a givin"!!

Lucky I don't plan to run for public Office!!!!
My budding career would be cut short
One
Picture
at
a
time!!!  LOL!
Anything to keep her runnin'!

Pintosopher

Quote from: dick1172762 on December 19, 2017, 12:24:53 PM
A lot of Pintos end up racing in mini-stock when they were the car to race. Use to see 20 or more at the local dirt track. Now the racers have moved on to later made cars and in lots of cases, ricers. I'm afraid there is really not very many Pintos left in the country. I'll guess that there might be 500 Pintos left but not all are road worthy. Just more reasons to keep your Pintos in good shape and do the car shows to spread the word. They should be a collector car along side Mustangs.
To be clear, I wish we could have a 3D specialist scan the Pinto and allow the stampings to be redone for all the sheet metal. Or as a ultimate tribute do the same as Revology did for the 65 Mustang shell and concept :D
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

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A lot of Pintos end up racing in mini-stock when they were the car to race. Use to see 20 or more at the local dirt track. Now the racers have moved on to later made cars and in lots of cases, ricers. I'm afraid there is really not very many Pintos left in the country. I'll guess that there might be 500 Pintos left but not all are road worthy. Just more reasons to keep your Pintos in good shape and do the car shows to spread the word. They should be a collector car along side Mustangs.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.