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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

2.8L V6 - Pros and cons

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69GT

       There are 2.8 cams, aluminum intakes, and headers out there if you look hard enough. Schneider cams used to and maybe still carries a few performance cams. Many years ago my friend had a 70s 2.8 Capri with a 4-speed. Had headers, big solid cam, intake and ported heads. He had 4.10 gears and when racing shifted at 7500 RPM. Says the car was awesome fast and really fun to drive. Good part was out running a mid 80s Z-28 Camaro. Bad part was getting 70s V-8 gas mileage from a 2.8 :(   

That being said I'd do a 2.3. I don't think they have made any new upgrade parts for the 2.8 in 20 years.

Nwstal

Ok ive read about all there is to read on the cologne v6... The 3.0 isnt one for starters its a vulcan.  Not even similar way more refined and different bellhousings. Tom Morano is about the only performance parts in the U.S. 2.8,2.9, and 4.0L are cologne engines the 2.8 has an offy. intake manifold available.  I "built" the 2.9 in my bronco 2 not worth the money but it does burnout and does alright it would raise hell in a pinto.  Use hollow pushrods to help the top end oiling and a high volume oil pump.  The europeans have a broad aftermarket for these engines since they got more of them and they were built there.  I have been looking at all my options for my pinto and have pretty much come to the same conclusion as everyone else 2.3 all the way cheap parts lots of them.  If you have the cash stroke it to a 2.8 :-)

skunky56

Here is my .02 , I own 6 Pintos 3 runabouts 3 wagons 2-2.0, 3-2.3 and a 2.8 in one wagon. It seems the V6 has more torque, better pull through the canyons,up hills etc. You drive them differently you spin the 4cyls and lug the V6 (not as much as a V8)but it rolls the freeway at 70-75 real nice. I am going to replace the timing gears this winter along with valve stem seals and all gaskets,I have no oil leaks and have about 40-45psi at idle, ;D 72k on the clock, Yep the V6 works well...Go for it
77 Starsky/Hutch 2.3 Turbo A4OD Sunroof
78 Wagon V6 C3

flash041

My 78 Crusising Wagon has the 2.8 V6 in it.It is not a lot faster that the 2.3 but is a lot smoother. There is a lot different feel when driving it as opposed the the 4 cyl.Also at cruse it maintains speed better when going up hills.You should drive one to see if you like it or not . The thermostat is not all that hard to change after youve done it a few times.But really how often do you change it? I have never had my heads off , I am the orignal owner,with 123 k .It does have a few oil leaks, but it has deen sitting 18 yrs.About the only thing ive done is change the timing gears.The original nylon one bit the dust early , I replaced it with steel gears.I have adjusted the lifters a few times its not too bad a job and does not need it that often.I dont know of many performance parts for the 2.8 so if thats what your looking for id be inclined to stick with the 2.3.
1978 Pinto Cruising wagon (I am the original owner ! ) Built Aug 15th 1977 in NJ
1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

78cruisingwagon

In a test of the then new 79 Mustangs by the little old blue haired ladies at Consumer reports, the 2.3/4-speed was a whopping two full seconds faster to 60 than the 2.8/Auto combination. So no, without modifications you won't gain any extra performance. Plus you'll have to adjust the valves every so often. Plus from the factory the 2.8 were only sold with Auto's. They were afraid of the lighter Pinto out accelerating the Mustang II with a four speed.

pbean09

My 2.8 is out of a 75 mustang and will burn the tires off, but the heads are new plus have been worked.

Pintosopher

PopBumper,
GAA Cosworth answers all the questions. But how big is your wallet? Seriously, there's bunch of power available in a 2.8-3.0L Cologne V6.

Lack of Bucks? Kick your Gov't harder ;D

Pintosopher, not quite (in the) stable ,but Stabil is a great way to save your gas...
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

FCANON

PintoPower has a 2.8 in a wagon as well.... might PM him a question.

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popbumper

Thanks all, you have pretty much made my decision against the swap, and I appreciate the inputs.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

turbo74pinto

Quote from: popbumper on April 19, 2009, 10:13:19 PM
Knowing some of the history of the fabled 2.3, and the wide range of equipment and mods available

i think you summed it up in that statment. id keep the 2.3, back it with a t5 for overdrive, change the exhaust, intake, carb and possably throw a roller cam in it.  at least thats what id do if i didnt like fuel injection  ;D

bob
Take a job big or small, do it right or not at all.

r4pinto

I have also heard there aren't as many options to modding the 2.8 V6. I'm not even too sure there was that much of a performance gain from the factory when comparing the two engines...

One good thing is that atleast it ain't a computer controlled car, where you would have to fab up a wiring harness to get it to go.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Srt

My only experience with the 2.8 is th one I stuffed into the engine bay of a '74 Ford Courier agter I fried the stock 4 banger on a return trip from the salt flats in Utah with my wife.  I had to build a set of headers for it and I swapped the 4 spd trans that came with the motor (out of a Capri)at the same time. 

That being said;  the motor seemed to lack the top end that I was used to in all the other cars that I owned up to that point. The headers were a beeatch!

I would have much rather preferred the 2.6 and a turbo at that time.
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

75bobcatv6

you could Just up the Ante a bit and go with the 3.0 Ive heard its got similar mounts to the 2.8 but thats all ive heard.

popbumper

Bump - c'mon guys, please ante up.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

75bobcatv6

its got its perks but as another stated the thermostat is in the worst place, and even with regular maint you might run inot Plugged oil galleys or low oiling up top. you dont realyl get much of an upgrade for Hp either.

firepinto

I've never been a fan of the 2.8 because of the thermostat being on the bottom side of the engine.  At least on the early Rangers they were, the later ones had them moved to the top.
'79 Pinto auto hatch back with an '80 2.3L and 4 speed transplant.  A 2.3 Turbo and T5 are waiting for the next transplant.

Plans changed, going V8 with TKX!

popbumper

...hit me....

I really want to know if swapping out the 2.3L for a V6 really gains me anything. Knowing some of the history of the fabled 2.3, and the wide range of equipment and mods available, I am inclined to keep the 2.3 (and option it accordingly), but I still would like to hear from anyone who can say "yea" or "nay", and why. Thanks!

Chris

PS - this would be going in my wagon....current setup is 2.3L with 4 speed....
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08