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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

What got you into Pintos/Bobcats?

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hellfirejim

Actually there are varied reasons.  the first is they made very cool pro stock race cars back in the day.  Secondly i had a late model big back window that was a great car and i put 35,000 miles on it the year i drove it. and thirdly i like that ablility to drive down the street and not see myself coming at me.

But most of all they are simply fun once you get them running..... :lol:
It's a good day to be alive!
PCCA Pinto Number #385


popbumper

[almost 10k worth of stereo later the car hit nearly 155 db and recieved lots of trophys. my current pinto is an orange 78 coupe.soon to have a 302 in it. just seems fun. i guess i have liked pintos all my life. my granny had that car as long as i can remember, then i ended up with it. go figure!
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NICE!!! I was into car stereo back in the day, I still have a handful of Punch 45 amps that I'll never get rid of. The thought of piling the back end of a Pinto wagon with amps and woofers always sounded like a LOT of fun. I'll bet that car was awesome. What ever happened to it?

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

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Enter Pinto #2, an AK Miller Turbo Charged 1971 4-speed 2.0 trunk model Pinto with a tired engine again on E-Bay and in CA.. He purchased yellow #2 Pinto
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I would be VERY interested in learning ALL that you may recall concerning this yellow Ak Miller turbo car.
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

orangekrush

my grandma gave me my first pinto, a maroon sunwagon! i was working at a job at a stereo shop, one of my buddys told me the next SHOPCAR should be my pinto wagon. so i offered it up as a guinnea pig! almost 10k worth of stereo later the car hit nearly 155 db and recieved lots of trophys. my current pinto is an orange 78 coupe.soon to have a 302 in it. just seems fun. i guess i have liked pintos all my life. my granny had that car as long as i can remember, then i ended up with it. go figure!
lifes too short to drive a boring ride!

beegle55

Fast forward till 2008. I had always still had a fondness for a Pinto and decided I wanted another one. In searching for one on eBay, I came across our old '78. Needless to say in the fall we bought it back because all the good feelings it gave us came back when we saw it for sale.

Now it's Feb. of 2009 and I found my daily driver, a perfect, mostly restored, one owner, orange, 1979, 2.3L, Pinto for a steal. That's the great pumpkin I now own. It is identical to the first orange '79 I had except for the stripe and its a 4spd whereas the first one was auto. And this one is in wayy better shape.

I love these cars because I have been around at least one of them most of the time in my life. Now on my 18th birthday I'm going to drive mine to my birthday dinner and I have memories in it already that I will never forget; it gives me a great feeling no matter what is going on in the world and I love it...  ;D Sorry so long,
     Sincerely, beegle55
2005 Jeep GC 5.7 HEMI
1993 Ford Mustang
1991 Ford Mustang GT
1988 Ford Mustang
1980 Ford Pinto Cruising- Mint, Fully documented
1979 Ford Pinto Trunk- 2.3L 4 speed
1978 Ford Pinto HB- 302 drag car
1976 Ford Pinto Runabout- 40,000 mi, V6
1972 Ford Maverick Grabber (real)
1970 Ford Mustang 302

beegle55

In between those year, a gas station we always stopped at had a couple houses beside of it. When I was around 12/13, my dad noticed a '79 Pinto (ORANGE w/ a STARSKY STRIP ON IT) setting behind the house. It had been there for a while and throughout the years hadn't moved. His first car was a Pinto so he wanted mine to be a Pinto too. He bought the car which was found out to only have 65,000 miles when we bought it after the owner parked it due to a cracked block because they left antifreeze out of it and it cracked. We cleaned it up a little and put a 2.3 out of my second Pinto, a '79 Robin Egg Blue Bobcat (which was almost nicer than my '79) After that, the car sat until it was to be painted. It never would happen. After three years, a busted window, and major rusting the car was scrapped (long story.) My/our third Pinto was a '79 Metallic Blue with a V8 and a 5-spd (should have kept that one) It had cool blue shag carpet and lots of cool stuff in it.
2005 Jeep GC 5.7 HEMI
1993 Ford Mustang
1991 Ford Mustang GT
1988 Ford Mustang
1980 Ford Pinto Cruising- Mint, Fully documented
1979 Ford Pinto Trunk- 2.3L 4 speed
1978 Ford Pinto HB- 302 drag car
1976 Ford Pinto Runabout- 40,000 mi, V6
1972 Ford Maverick Grabber (real)
1970 Ford Mustang 302

beegle55

With me, it started in 1996 when my father purchased our '78 off of a Dodge dealership that he worked for. The '78, as some know, has been a drag car most of it's life and only has 1500 original miles, excluding maybe 100 from the years at our local 1/8th mile drag strip. I remember helping clean the car and riding in the back with my brother when we first bought it. My dad did some engine build-ups and other work, and the car remains as it was after that. We retired that car around 2005 when we built a '92 Mustang that was bad-butt to say that least. We quit racing one year after that in '06 as my dad lost interest in all of our classic/collectible cars and sold out. At that time we had the '78 Pinto, '73 Corvette Stingray, '94 Mustang Cobra 1 of 7,500. 66' Chevelle w/ a 454. '85 Mustang GT Pro/Street, '92 Mustang LX drag car... All now gone except the '78 that we bought back...
2005 Jeep GC 5.7 HEMI
1993 Ford Mustang
1991 Ford Mustang GT
1988 Ford Mustang
1980 Ford Pinto Cruising- Mint, Fully documented
1979 Ford Pinto Trunk- 2.3L 4 speed
1978 Ford Pinto HB- 302 drag car
1976 Ford Pinto Runabout- 40,000 mi, V6
1972 Ford Maverick Grabber (real)
1970 Ford Mustang 302

Pintosopher

Cars like this, and the people and history behind them....

See attached....

Pintosopher
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

71HANTO

Same story...but I will add that my cousin had a 76 V6 "Woodie" wagon that I rode around in on a couple of trips to visit. I was impressed enough after driving it, to buy the 80 "Woodie" NEW!

I came to Pintos as an original owner of a 1980, 2.3. Auto Trans., Pinto "Woodie" Wagon. It had almost every option available. The car ran flawlessly for the four years my wife drove it. Even with it fully loaded, we towed a small ski boat on weekends.  I traded it in on a (GULP) Chrysler La Baron turbo for the wife (LEMMON-but that's for another forum). I only received $1000 trade in for the 80 Pinto and only 27K miles on the clock. Which brings me to the next Pinto chapter.

I have been racing a 1966 Lotus Cortina for several years at vintage car track events. That fun ended when I rolled it into a little ball of metal after a rear axel failure going about 60. Me and the engine drive line are the only things that survived largely un-touched. Fast forward a couple of years. My son always wanted a MK1 Cortina as a driver/racer but they are scarce in the US, parts are hard to find and are often many times the price for a similar Pinto part. Plus most suffer from terminal rust issues.

I suggested that he look at the American version of the Cortina. A car that comes with a Cortina engine, has a lower center of gravity, a much wider wheel track, weighs about the same, and has a better parts availability that cost WAY less..... A 71 PINTO!!   He soon found a largely rust free CA car, less than 50 miles from our house, with the original green fading paint,  a 1971 trunk model with a 2.0, C4, front Discs, Air, Fold Down rear seat with 22k original miles on E-Bay for $1,300 (first owner was a disabled woman hence the low miles). He drove it off and on for about a year adding another 2K miles. From the start he wanted MORE POWER!

Enter Pinto #2, an AK Miller Turbo Charged 1971 4-speed 2.0 trunk model Pinto with a tired engine again on E-Bay and in CA.. He purchased yellow #2 Pinto and I then bought his green one. In our deal he ended up with the low mile 2.0 engine out of the green Pinto to use as a base for a new turbo motor. I decided to fill the hole left under my green hood with my full race 1600cc Lotus Cortina Twin Cam engine (bored out from the original 1588cc).


71HANTO
"Life is a series of close ones...'til the last one"...cfpjr

dga57

Becky, there's nothing dumb at all about your reasons for liking Pintos.

Robert, I knew there was a reason I liked you (besides the fact that you fed me breakfast when I was in North Carolina)... my first Pinto was burnt orange with a black interior also!!!  Great minds must think alike! :lol:

When I was sixteen and itching to get a car of my own, my Dad decreed that it had to be new :rolleye:... wasn't going to let me buy somebody else's problem.  That severely limited my choices because, even though I was working part-time, minimum wage was only $1.65/hour in those days.  At the time, I was dating a slightly older girlfriend who owned a Pinto so I was fairly familiar with them.  Also, my Dad had always been a Ford man so I really never looked beyond the Pinto.  He helped me make the deal and I special ordered a 1974 Runabout with the 2300 cc/4sp. combination.  It had an AM radio, tinted glass, bodyside moldings, wheel lip moldings, bright trim around the windows, standard hubcaps with beauty rings, and white sidewall tires.  In my eyes she was a beauty!   Had lots of adventures  :evil: in that little car!

I moved up to a larger car in 1976, but never quite forgot my Pinto.  After many years, and numerous collector cars, I decided in late 2007 that I wanted to find another Pinto.  That happened in early 2008 when I latched onto my 1972 Sedan.  It runs great but needs cosmetic restoration - spent all last summer accumulating the things I needed and intend to finish her up this year.  She's brown at the moment, but when I finish she will be orange, much like my original '74.

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Carolina Boy

Ever since they came out, I have loved the Pinto. My first love was Burnt Orange with black interior w/ black rubber mat. It had two options, an AM radio and 2000 cc Vega killer engine w/ the 4 speed. I feel they were the American's version of Germany's VW Bug. They run forever.
I have had many in my long years and have a 78 that the engine just died a couple days ago. I am going to resto-mod and do a 5.0/T5 swap. I started the major bodywork.
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

blupinto

Mine's kinda dumb... be warned.
As a little kid I always liked the cars with animal emblems. Mustangs, Pintos, Broncos, Mavericks, Impalas (the old ones) etc. Also, as a litte kid whose mother drove an (ugh!) Renault LeCar I was intrigued by the Pinto sedan's shape. I favored small cars with small or smallish rear quarter windows (unlike the LeCar). (ugh!)

         As I got a little older (11 maybe), a chum down the street (whose Mom drove a 2-door Maverick) said there wouldn't be a Pinto in existence by the time I was of driving age. I took that as a dare, but I always wanted a Pinto anyway, so my honest-to-goodness-running-first-car was a '72 in Grabber (Ford) blue trunk model with black interior. Mr. John Everett, where are you? ::) :showback: :drunk: :P :cheesy_n:

       Losing her to actions beyond my control devastated me. So from late '94 to late '08 I was Pintoless. I almost got a '73 green gold metallic w/ metallic green interior Runabout in '95 but I think I was still broken-hearted about the '72 so I stupidly passed her up. What was I thinking!?!

       Now I'm the very proud owner of two beautiful (to me) Pintos that are both fun to drive and unique pieces of car history. I need to look up John Everett and ask him if he remembers those Famous Last Words he told me so long ago... :lol:
One can never have too many Pintos!

r4pinto

In 1977 my parents bought a 1977 Ford Pinto Squire wagon from Graham Ford in Columbus. When I was younger that was the family car & the car I wanted to be my first car. I was 11 when the car died and got hauled away to the junkyard. It had more rust on the rear quarters than my current 77 Pinto sedan! At that point I decided I wanted to get a Pinto, and in 2004 I accomplished that with the purchase of a 1978 Pinto Runabout. I paid $350 for it. The car was a mess but I got all the extra parts the previous owner had, including rear hatch, two doors, two fenders, spare battery side cover, voltage regulator, oil pan, and some odds & ends. He even filled up the tank, but told me there was no way the tank was full. I found out it was when I went to a gas station and tried to fill the tank. That car was a real mess with major rust on the rear quarter panels, a bad oil buring engine, and serious electrical problems. I bought Harold II, my 77 sedan from a couple in Grove City Ohio for $400 with a bad tranny. Turns out it was just out of fluid. I drove the car to Carlisle for the 2nd Pinto meet and at a tool booth the tranny started to slip. about 1500 miles later the tranny finally died. I am learning so much from her, including how to rebuild an engine while still in the car, and soon welding. I love this car & will be fixing her up. The car originally was medium saddle metallic with tan interior, but I will be painting the car a shade of blue yet to be decided, with blue interior, accented with black dash and rear panel.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

billnall

My first Pinto was a 71 red sedan rebuilt total that I bought from a local body shop owner that I knew and trusted. It left me with my first wife. In 79 I ordered a new blue Runabout 2.3L auto loaded top of the line. In 1988 I bought a White 77 Pinto wagon from my sisters husband who had bought it new. I still have it but have not driven it in about 10 years because the #3 cly of the 2.3 has a problem and it knocks. My plans are to rebuild the 2.3 as soon as I have time. Also plan to install power brake booster. Maybe even some custom body work and new paint.
Ford Parts Man
Bill

gordie

I was a car dealer for almost fifty years and have owned over 10,000 cars.  I kept a few good collector cars when they came along and never had the money or space to keep them all but when the Pinto's came out in late 1970 I knew I had to have one, especially when the '71 Runabouts appeared.  My first Pinto had the small engine and the huge black rubber floormats but it was cute and fun to drive.  Eventually I probably had a couple of hundred of them over the years and my kids and I all had one for daily drivers even though we had a choice of driving something fancier.  I drove a lot and my favorite '71 Runabout was bullet proof and never seemed to get parking lot dings. I finally upgraded to a '74 runabout which to me seemed to be the ultimate Pinto with the better bumpers, locking hood and it still burned unleaded gas.  This was a long time ago!  I try to visit the huge Carlisle and Hershey swap meets every Fall and a few years ago I discovered a 1975 Pinto at the Carlisle Meet with 609 original miles on it.  The original owner had passed away shortly after he bought it and the car sat in a garage most of its' life.  Well of course I had to buy it and it has been in my garage ever since and it still has the same mileage.  It is still a brand new Pinto and I don't want to drive it and put more mileage on it but what fun is that?  Pinto's are made to be driven and enjoyed but this one belongs in a museum and maybe someone will come along who wants to conserve it as it is.  I need to find a nice '71 Runabout again as I sure had many great times in the ones I had and it is time to make more fun Pinto memories. I have been looking!

78txpony

My story can be seen at http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php/topic,11964.0.html.
Being that this car has been so reliable and easy to maintain and repair, I saw no desire to get rid of it. I wanted it a daily driver.  It has been in the family since new, and we have all the documentation, including the original title and even the pre-sale brochure! 
I never had any plans to restore it, just drive it.  However, those thoughts are beginning to change the more I hang around on this board.  I have to say that Pintos are much more attractive then the little foreign junk that is selling for high $! 

-Rob Young
1978 Pinto Pony sedan (Old Faithful) a.k.a. "the Tramp"
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1986 Cutlass Supreme Coupe - "Pristine"
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Maybe done to death already, maybe not. Given the population here changes somewhat frquently, I'm curious to what folks have to say. Everyone has a reason for liking the Pinto/Bobcat.

Me? My Grandmother bought me a brand new '77 sedan when I was in high school. Sure, other guys had Mustangs, Camaros, whatever - I had a >new car<  ;D. Loved that little guy, always washing and waxing it.

In 1981, I moved to Philadelphia - my Mom had taken over the sedan, and I needed a car. My Grandfather (same side) had a '79 wagon, and he gave it to me. Now that car? Loved it even more - it was always immaculate, I put big tires/wheels on it, a header, a supertrapp muffler, a better stereo, window accents, fog lights, better carb, etc. The girlfriend and I at the time actually used to go CAMPING in it!! The car was really well taken care of, and super reliable.

After I left Philly, I moved to West Virginia, leaving the Pinto behind. My brother drove/abused it, but I was too busy restoring a 1957 Chevy; besides, I had a company car, and was not needing transportation. The car was used for a few years while he was in school, then got parked, enduring humid summers and snowy winters outdoors.

In 1990, I returned to school, and needing a car again, I went back to the Pinto wagon. It had held up surprisingly well, and was bulletproof - a simple oil change, freash battery and flush, and it was up and running!! It became my daily driver. Still having the 1957, I met a guy who had a body shop. I decided to turn the wagon into a cruising wagon, and went junkyard hunting. We completely repainted the car, shaved the emblems/door handles, frenched the antenna, added the side panels, welded in a fuel filler door, and painted it bright white - with big red, pink and purple tipped FLAMES - on the BACK of the car!!! ??? In fact, while the car was being "restored", I picked up a BEAT 1980 sedan as a daily driver. One day on the way to school (about two weeks before graduation), it died on the highway. We left it there.

Sadly, I never got to finish/drive the wagon. School was over, and I was looking for a job. Texas called. We left the car behind, with the guy who owned the shop. I was heartbroken, but we only had so much room to carry stuff to Texas.

Fast forward to 2008, when the but bit again. You now know the "rest of the story", and my '76 wagon restoration is well underway. It is officially the FOURTH Pinto I have owned. That makes it '76, '77, '79, and '80!!  ;)

What's YOUR story?

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08