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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Needing a rear end...which one?

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Father Guido

Sorry to be so late with this post folks,been gone for awhile, My rear came from a mustang II,four bolt pattern direct bolt in. My pinto already had mags on original diff when i grenaded it,so not sure about original wheels but the mags bolted right up. Hope this helps someone.
71 Pinto,302,C4,8" rear,too many mods to make it all happen.

apintonut

Quote from: pintoguy76 on January 26, 2009, 09:23:33 PM
Mine is a 4 cylinder, not sure why it got the 8" axle but it did. Just have to ask if they have any pintos and go back and look at them and see if the axle has bolts in the back cover or not. Mines a 4 cyl with the 8" and ive heard of V6's with 6.75s. I saw a post where that was mentioned just a few days ago.
the rear ends can be a week link in these cars and if they are abused they go out and some one replaced them with what was at hand so over the last 35 years its not unreasonable to believe even a 8" would go out
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pintoguy76

Mine is a 4 cylinder, not sure why it got the 8" axle but it did. Just have to ask if they have any pintos and go back and look at them and see if the axle has bolts in the back cover or not. Mines a 4 cyl with the 8" and ive heard of V6's with 6.75s. I saw a post where that was mentioned just a few days ago.
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apintonut

i have a 8" out of pinto if u get back over to wa but if ur driving ur pinto that i think u had a trunk it wont fit ud need a hb or wagon to hall so we'd hafta put it in wail u were here i paid 175$ from a yard but im wanting five lug and already have the front five lug stuff im looking for a 8.8 a out ranger i think is the way to go as i have a new detroit looker for one that would have been 800$ had i not gotten it for free!
but i had a 88 ranger 2wd sport that had a 7.5 it looked to be a bolt in but would leave u with five lug and ud hafta find mustang fox axles and have them cut down to fit or have the ranger axles re drilled  but just hoping to give u some more options
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73 sedan soon to be painted
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79 pinto wagon & beentoad
wtb 75 yellow w/ black int. (rally?) like profile pic.

dave1987

I guess I'll see how much a local yard wants for an 8" off a 76 Pinto with a V6 in their yard.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

pintoguy76

My 76 came with an 8" from the factory  and it uses the same wheels as my other two pintos with the 6.75 axles. Use a pinto 8" and your wheels should fit just fine. I have used the wheels from my 8" pinto onto the other two and they all fit just fine.
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1996 Chevy C2500 Suburban with 6.5L Turbo Diesel/4L80E 4x2

1980 Volvo 265 with 1997 S-10 4.3 and a modified 700R4

2010 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x2 5.3 6L80E

71pintoracer

The 8" in my car came from a '68 Mustang (wrecked  :accident:). It had all new bearings and seals, 3:55 gears and an Auburn locker, $400.00 drum to drum. I swapped in 4 lug axles from a Maverick rear so I could use my wheels. The whole swap was a simple bolt-in with no modifications needed. I really didn't know there were so many different variations of the 8" rears. I guess I got lucky!  ;D
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Pintosopher

dave1987,
The conversion of the 8" axle with 4 lug 4.25" ford pattern will require wheels with a larger center hole. My 72 was upgraded to a 8" traction Lok and then we discovered the 13 X 7.5 steel wheels had the centers from the 71 to 75 pinto with the smaller holes. Judicious use of a pneumatic grinder opened the holes to the proper diameter, leaving just enough of a raised lip to support the hole opening. If you have wheels with the larger hole, you're home free.
BTW , look into axle accessories for Street rods using the 8" rear axle, it'll make you drool thinking of the possibilities! :amazed:

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dave1987

Still looking for an 8". Got another question though. I want to keep the four lug bolt pattern so I can still use my steel styled rims. Is this at all possible when upgrading to an 8" rear? Or should I just stay with a 6.75?
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

licketysplit

I have a complete 8" rearend out of a 79 Pinto wagen for sale in Bakersfield Ca. if someone needs one? It is complete drum to drum and it also has the E-brake cables on it! Howard 1-661-654-0762

popbumper

Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

71HANTO

Quote from: popbumper on September 16, 2008, 10:21:06 AM

Thanks for your help, if you can get measurements for me, that would be great.

Chris, the Pinto rear measures 57" wheel flange to wheel flange. The Maverick measures 56" (one inch NARROWER). The spring perches on the Pinto are 42.5" center to center. The Maverick's are 43.5" (one inch WIDER). These were HAND measured so a potential fractional +/-.

71HANTO
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dick1172762

Quote from: 71HANTO on September 16, 2008, 01:43:46 PM
If by chance it is an 8 inch with a Posi/Limited Slip, $350 is dirt cheap!
The going price for a late "ribed", third member, with new gears and a new posi, all set up and ready to install is $500 to $700, with a traction-lock at the low end and a Detroit locker at the high end cost.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

71HANTO


Quote from: Wittsend on September 16, 2008, 12:12:33 PM
You might want to print that and show it to the guy who wants $350!

If by chance it is an 8 inch with a Posi/Limited Slip, $350 is dirt cheap!
"Life is a series of close ones...'til the last one"...cfpjr

Wittsend

>>> On a side note, are the brakes/backing plates the same on the 6.75" and the Pinto 8"? <<<

I can't account for the backing plates, but I can definately tell you that the drums are different (regardless of having the same diameter).  The 8" drums have a larger center hole.  When I got my 8" I was SO glad I spent the extra $10 to get a "drum to drum instead" of an "axle to axle" rear end!

By the way the cost "out the door" (original price, sales tax, core charge, admission tax, and environmental surcharge) was $118.  Had I found one at their 50% of sales it would have been about $60.  You might want to print that and show it to the guy who wants $350!
Tom

popbumper

...darn, and I would BUY it from you! Oh well, such is our hobby, we are pretty spread out!! I thought the rear would be disc - though I >believe< from your correction that rear discs on a Maverick did not happen until '76 or '77 - but I may be incorrect there, too.

Thanks for your help, if you can get measurements for me, that would be great.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

71HANTO

Popbumper,

I have a maverick 8 inch rear that I pulled at a Pick-Your-Part when I was looking to move up to 5 lug. The reason I didn't go that route is because the rules for vintage racing do not allow significantly upgrading brakes so I stayed with the four lug. By the way, the rear brakes are drum type not "discs". I am happy to do some measuring for you if you wish when I get home from work. The center section has 3.00 gears. Too bad your in Texas because I'm in California. I would sell the drum to drum setup for $125.

71HANTO
"Life is a series of close ones...'til the last one"...cfpjr

popbumper

71HANTO:

  Really? The Maverick rear end is only 1/2" narrower on each side? Wow, I would have never guessed that they were narrower. I assume that moving the perches would require some cutting/welding work, yes? It seems like it would be a good retrofit on a rear end, and like you said, you get both discs and a five bolt lug pattern. I have been SO toying with pulling my rear end and dropping a better one under it.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

71HANTO



Don't over look Maverick rear ends. They are slightly more narrow at -1/2 inch on each side (approx) and the perches may need to be relocated. Most have 5 lugs and the bigger brakes. I happen to like the look of a deeper offset wheel in the back on cars. IMHO

71HANTO
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tbucketjack

Getting on here a little late, but if you're still looking for a rear end. The Ranger p/u may be a good choice, especially the 8.8 or the 7.5. You'll have 5 bolt axles and much bigger brakes. Good luck.

douglasskemp

Quote from: dave1987 on August 05, 2008, 01:55:31 PM
I am thinking of possible a Fairmont, which is probably the 6.75 rear that I have on the car right now, however I am not sure.

Unfortunately, the Fairmont is built on the Fox platform (same as the 79-93 Mustangs) which means you would have about the same luck putting one in from a fox Mustang.  The Fairmont probably has the 7.5" diff in it.  I do believe the Farimont one is wider too, but I may have my bases way off.

On a side note, are the brakes/backing plates the same on the 6.75" and the Pinto 8"?  If so, swapping out would be a breeze.  IIRC the drums are the same on my 87 Mustang 7.5" as are on my 77 Mustang 8", but the backing plates are probably different. (to accommodate the difference in Salisbury vs. Hotchkiss axleshaft mounting)
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bob55

Where are you located?  I've got an 8" housing, and can put together the brakes, drums, 4 lug axles, and a center section with (?) gears, no problem.  The only question is how much for shipping, if I got $50 in my pocket after shipping I'd be pleased.

I'm leaving tomorrow for a two week Navy Reserve "vacation", so email me at bob_10@comcast.net if you're interested. 
In a quandry......

75bobcatv6

i can ask around out here and see if any of the local yards have a v6 model pinto they came stock with the 8" rear end

dave1987

I'm in need of replacing the rear end/differential on my little Pony, and I'm curious as to which ones will bolt in.

I am thinking of possible a Fairmont, which is probably the 6.75 rear that I have on the car right now, however I am not sure.

I would like to put an 8" on the car but there are none in the yards around here except for one, which wants $350 for it!  :o
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Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!