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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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gordie

You are absolutely correct!  I did not specify that I meant American manufacturers.  The Citroen was the car that really started it all and was the idea for the Kaiser.  Henry Kaiser owned a Citroen and liked the front wheel drive.

dholvrsn

The first "modern" FWD was supposedly the Citroen Traction Avant back in the '30s. The first "even more modernly modern" FWD with transverse engine supposedly was the BMC Mini of the late '50s.
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gordie

Henry Kaiser tried to manufacture a front wheel drive car when he first started to make cars with Joe Frazer in 1946.  The unit was manufactured by Borg Warner and was very noisy and would have required power steering which was almost unheard of in 1946.  To make the unit functional was going to cost around a million dollars and add a lot of cost to the Kaiser car which was originally targeted to enter the low price field.  Kaiser gave up on the front wheel drive idea and went with the conventional three speed Borg Warner transmission as used on the Frazer cars.  I think that it was Oldsmobile in 1966 with the Toronado who finally made the front wheel drive idea work followed by Cadillac in 1967 on the El Dorado.

Srt

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gordie

I do not know who made the first front wheel drive cars nor when but the most famous ones were the ones made by Cord in 1929 and again in 1936 and '37.  There was no power steering in those days and the Cords sure needed it badly.  They steered like a truck and did not handle well at all.  A famous western movie star was driving his Cord phaeton in Oklahoma and hit a mud puddle and the car flipped over killing him.  My point is that there was a time when rear wheel drive ruled and the front wheel drive cars were the exception and were not good handling at all.  How times have changed!  That Cord survived and was restored and spent many years in a Southern California collection.  It still survives but I do not know where it is now.

75bobcatv6

Quote from: 75bobcatv6 on May 19, 2008, 01:08:46 AM
in ernesty i think all people should go to somesort of School for Driving, i see alot of Idiots on the road and that scares me.
Ive done Bondurant's full course Schedule, as well as years of driving on dirt roads, i dont know everything mind you but i know how to drive, to use my signal and to wait and make sure that i have the room. Ive also learned to watch how people react, and or watch and try to predict what they might do and act accordingly to that.  im not even 30 yet and i drive better than half the people here that are 40+ and all the teens ive seen driving shouldnt have a license. my 2 cents would be to send em all back to school to learn how to drive. the safer the car the worse the driver.
mind you SRT im only 28

Srt

Quote from: 75bobcatv6 on May 19, 2008, 01:08:46 AM
in ernesty i think all people should go to somesort of School for Driving, i see alot of Idiots on the road and that scares me.
Ive done Bondurant's full course Schedule, as well as years of driving on dirt roads, i dont know everything mind you but i know how to drive, to use my signal and to wait and make sure that i have the room. Ive also learned to watch how people react, and or watch and try to predict what they might do and act accordingly to that. 

very good points
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  My friend had a 94 Auto Corvette. It had the traction control deal. He and I got in an argument about whose car was better. My "Primitive tech" 92 5.0 5-Speed LX Mustang "With no traction control or anti-lock brakes" or his super Vette that couldn't lose control due to high tech B.S. I told him all that "padding" made for a worse driver. He actually laughed in my face.  Three weeks later he gave my friend (Female and hot) a demonstration of his bad butt Vetts power. It wouldn't peel out so he turned the traction control off did several burn outs, said good bye, pressed his foot heavily on the pedal as he left (Across a dip filled with water, turning left) as he did almost always when accelerating the Vette. Of course spun his tires, failed to realize what spinning Vette tires felt like, didn't back off in time and slid his then 1 year old car into a curb sideways at about 30 MPH. He was fine and my other friend and I collected some shattered pieces of his aluminum independent rear that was scattered around the scene and made a pendant for his necklace. He was not amused


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75bobcatv6

in ernesty i think all people should go to somesort of School for Driving, i see alot of Idiots on the road and that scares me.
Ive done Bondurant's full course Schedule, as well as years of driving on dirt roads, i dont know everything mind you but i know how to drive, to use my signal and to wait and make sure that i have the room. Ive also learned to watch how people react, and or watch and try to predict what they might do and act accordingly to that.  im not even 30 yet and i drive better than half the people here that are 40+ and all the teens ive seen driving shouldnt have a license. my 2 cents would be to send em all back to school to learn how to drive. the safer the car the worse the driver.

apintonut

they should make it illegal to scrap a pinto and maybe fox mustang's before it has been ran on a track for at least  year so that some teen's can get some real driving lessons
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Crunluath

Fortunately.... In the United States we are protected from ex-post-facto laws.  That's why a 1909 Model T or Curved Dash Olds can't be banned from driving on public streets. The same as the government cant force pre 1955 vehicles to have turn signals.
The most fun in a Pinto, is seeing the look on a passengers face, and you hear the gas sloshing around in the gas tank after taking a turn.
Propaganda is for the ignorant.

Smeed

Quote from: Tercin on April 04, 2008, 01:39:33 PM
After riding with my 19 year old daughter, my 2 boys will not have a radio or be allowed to use a phone while driving. I may also take them to some sort of performance driving school to get the feel of how cars react. Drivers ed just teaches you to pass a test. Rear drive cars are not the problem, it is a lack of training. Read all the articles in AutoWeek about teen driving, those should be available on their website.

Tercin

Just let them watch "The Fast and the Furious" and they should be pro drivers.... at least thats what most kids feel like.

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Tercin

After riding with my 19 year old daughter, my 2 boys will not have a radio or be allowed to use a phone while driving. I may also take them to some sort of performance driving school to get the feel of how cars react. Drivers ed just teaches you to pass a test. Rear drive cars are not the problem, it is a lack of training. Read all the articles in AutoWeek about teen driving, those should be available on their website.

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earthquake

OK got me,Good one Bill.It's pathetic to say but with all the liberals in office it was believable.Hey blacksheep22,don't be upset with Bill,be mad at the politicians that made the joke possable.Where would we be without them :lol:
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Srt

Bill (and others), here is a link to SEMA' legislation &   regulations page on their website.  SEMA, (specialty equipment manufacturers association (was the speed equipment manufactureres asociation years ago)), is a large & effective auto aftermarket equipment industry organizatioon and lobbying organization. 

They can help.

http://www.semasan.com/main/main.aspx?id=60081
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77turbopinto

Thanks for posting, see you again next April 1st.


Bill
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D.R.Ball

So what's the matter, these people do not know how to drive.....Somebody find a tall tree and short piece of r@#e......I mean come on what's next..Teach these idiots how to drive and maybe even think....BTW howabout our GREAT INNER CITY SCHOOLS with only a 50% Grad rate........No wonder why OBAMA is winning....As  for smog laws go  by the little town of Arwin CA , outside of Bakersfield , it should change the way you think about smog laws or at least your health.......I really do not like to see what I'm breathing....

crazyhorse

I LOVE the fact that my Pinto has no power steering, or brakes. It does exactly what I tell it to do, right wrong, or indifferent. My other car is the one of the last of the hi-po sports cars without electronic nannies. My Subaru SVX, while being AWD, and having ABS, is still controlled by steel springs, and rubber bushings. Again, it does what I say, when I say.

I've driven cars equipped with stability control. Notably a Caddy CTS. It felt so slow, while actually travelling faster in the same situations as my SVX. I felt like a driver could be tricked into an invincibility complex. That's NOT a good situation.

Now as to retrofitting an older car to have stability control, THAT opens a whole new can of worms. To calibrate it to the "Anycar" would invite disaster. Beyond that, if I fit tonewheels and pickups to my car, run wires into blind cubbies, and put a "Trac" light on the dash. What inspector will know the difference??
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Ponygal

uh-oh, soapbox time.

It sickens me to death the automation of everything in our lives today. Instant this, automatic that, disposible everything.

People have become so complacent with things, they are used to being spoon-fed everything. It frightens me that a COMPUTER has more control over driving a car than a person does sometimes. They need to look at the DRIVERS of these cars. it's like saying guns kill people; last time I checked it took a finger and a brain to pull a trigger.

I love my rear wheel drives. I take pride in the fact that I drive something that takes some thought and attention. I believe it makes me a more alert and conscientious driver.

I'll step down now. thanks.
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Blacksheep22

Sounds like they need to actually look at all the vehicles that wreck and put it in a percentage of 2wd 4wd fwd rwd awd and look at the numbers. Bet ya fwd would lead the pack. Why? because of that ive got abs and fwd or awd and traction control mentality and driving faster than they should or not paying as much attention. Most of us rwd people know better than to take off like we are at the dragstrip and then run 90 mph around the corner when the conditions warrant. Personal opinion here but if parents nowadays did like our parents did there wouldnt be quite as many dead teenagers. Most of them get a nice new fast and furious sportscar or musclecar and havent driven a lick and have no correcting skills whatsoever! Give them something not so dang powerful and great handling. When I was growing up we had go-karts in big grass fields learning how to "hang" it out there and learning that also taught how not to over-correct so much. Those precious "Fun" days playing on the karts actually taught us some good driving skills. I used to run wreckers and saw enough (You know what im talking about) that my 8 year old has already got his own stock 72 Pinto sedan to fix up and has driven it at the local school and my straight drive wagon with him in the drivers seat and me in the passengers seat. (Gotta love the E-brake setup!  :lol: ) I want him to know as much as possible before he ever gets on the road. Just my 2 cents worth.
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Our immigrants and infidels.
They say there is strangeness to danger us
In our theatres and bookstore shelves,
That those who know whats best for us
Must rise and save us from ourselves"
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-Rush, Witch Hunt

Says a lot doesn't it? Especially considering it was written in 1981.
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Pintosopher

 Greetings,
Well I would guess that if it was your local news, you are seeing the response of some overzealous politician or citizen who was viewing a "lack  of traction event" on slick roads by a rear wheel drive car driven by someone who loves to Drift or is clueless about the risks.
The reality is that most performance cars with traction control and RWD have a disable switch for "performance driving mode" so even that isn't a realistic solution for enforcement. Someday , if you live in the snowbelt, you won't have the option of operating  non- traction controlled vehicles in the inclement weather, even worse , all motor vehicles will have to be AWD or traction controlled without disable mode.
Our government will take away all our cares and worries, all we have to do is give them the power & tax money.

From the front lines of Automotive socialism,

Pintosopher
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77turbopinto

On the news this morning they were talking about the "DANGERS" of rear wheel drive cars that don't have stability control, traction control, or ABS. The law-makers are now talking about making the owners of older rear drive cars either update their cars or take them off the road!!

How, or can we fight this??

Bill
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