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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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77pintocw

Quote from: Pintony on May 06, 2005, 11:21:01 PM
Hello 77pintocw,
Do not spend money on an EGR valve.
I have 80+ NEW Ford units that need a good home.
Please contact me before purchase.
5.00 + shipping
Remember these are noS Ford pieces.
From Pintony

Hey Pintony:

Send me your address when you get time.  My e-mail is c2804gem@hotmail.com

Thanks!
1977, Pinto Cruising Wagon, White with Blue Graphics

77pintocw

Hi CHEAPRACER:

I sent my original carburetor that was destroyed by the Ford dealership to
Pony Carburetors, Inc. in Las Cruces, NM.  They did a fantastic job restoring
it back to the original condition.  I have not put it back on the engine yet,
but they said they actually tested it on an engine and it works just fine.  I will
let you all know what happens.

Thanks for the input!
1977, Pinto Cruising Wagon, White with Blue Graphics

CHEAPRACER

I've also seen NOS carbs on ebay lately.
Cheapracer is my personality but you can call me Jim '74 Pinto, stock 2.3 turbo, LA3, T-5, 8" 3:55 posi, Former (hot) cars: '71 383 Cuda, 67 440 Cuda, '73 340 Dart, '72 396 Vega, '72 327 El Camino, '84 SVO, '88 LX 5.0

77pintocw

Hey Pintony:

Thanks for the offer.  My e-mail is c2804gem@hotmail.com

Also, I read that you are a parts dealer.  Do you have a list of
the type of parts or do you have a website?  Or do we just
give you a call with what we need?

Greatly appreciate the help!
1977, Pinto Cruising Wagon, White with Blue Graphics

Pintony

Hello 77pintocw,
Do not spend money on an EGR valve.
I have 80+ NEW Ford units that need a good home.
Please contact me before purchase.
5.00 + shipping
Remember these are NOS Ford pieces.
From Pintony

CHEAPRACER

  Another "no respect for the Pinto" story. They probably laughed and joked about it while working on it.

No need to just change an EGR valve, just look at it, make sure it's not stuck open and see if it holds vacuum by sucking on the hose with something. My guess would also be a vacuum hose and or carb issue.
Cheapracer is my personality but you can call me Jim '74 Pinto, stock 2.3 turbo, LA3, T-5, 8" 3:55 posi, Former (hot) cars: '71 383 Cuda, 67 440 Cuda, '73 340 Dart, '72 396 Vega, '72 327 El Camino, '84 SVO, '88 LX 5.0

77pintocw

Good suggestions.  I will replace the egr valve and oil.  I know the vacuum lines are hard and have
not been attached to the right locations.  That's why I asked for the vacuum line diagrams so I
can do it myself.  In fact, the reason I took it to the Ford dealership was I didn't have the time,
what a mistake.  Now, I get to spend the summer fixing the problems that they created.  However,
I will get to know my Pinto better. :)
1977, Pinto Cruising Wagon, White with Blue Graphics

dirt track demon


7.  Metal tube attached to manifold damaged by corrosive compound.
8.  Corrosive compound sprayed in engine compartment that removed the blue paint from the rocker arm
     cover and manifold.  In fact, it removed the paint from the Motorcraft oil filter.


In light of what you said here It sounds like egr valve to me,  whatever they sprayed probably glued the egr valve open.  I would strongly recomend changing the oil, too. 

Take these morons to the cleaners. 
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wagonmaster

In California, unless you say otherwise, they have to save all the old parts taken off. If they don't, that can open them up for a lawsuit and, if it happens too many times, they can have their license yanked!

From what you've described, it is very possible that some of the smog vacuum lines or valves were damaged. Unless all the original vacuum lines were replaced, they could be hard and brittle and get a crack in them that may not be noticed causing a vacuum leak and/or a vacuum operated valve to not function properly or at all.
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77pintocw

Hi:

Believe me, I have the highest respect for competent auto mechanics.  However, this person that worked on my Pinto does not fix in this category.  Here is a brief summary of some of the things that this person did to my Pinto.

1.  Suction line accumulator was removed from the A/C and thrown away.
2.  All original screws holding the air duct system were taken off and thrown away.
3.  Original like new carburetor completely destroyed and turned into a rusted mass.
4.  Original like new carburetor tag ripped off and thrown away.
5.  Original like new aluminum air cleaner housing was destroyed by being hammered on and cut with tin snips.
6.  Corrugated tubing attached to the air cleaner housing removed and thrown away.
7.  Metal tube attached to manifold damaged by corrosive compound.
8.  Corrosive compound sprayed in engine compartment that removed the blue paint from the rocker arm
     cover and manifold.  In fact, it removed the paint from the Motorcraft oil filter.
9.  Original tower heater hose camps removed and thrown away.
10. The original 1977 carburetor was removed and replaced with a 1979 rusted out Pinto carburetor.

All of this work (what a joke) was done without my knowledge and/or approval.  Also, I explicitly told them not to discard any parts which was completely ignored.

Needless to say, I am very upset over the damaged that was done to my pristine Pinto.
1977, Pinto Cruising Wagon, White with Blue Graphics

CHEAPRACER

 Being a mechanic myself, please don't accuse until you determine what is acutually wrong. They could have very well screwd something up or they could be telling the truth. I took my 88 Stang in for an ignition switch recall and when I drove it back home the door wouldn't open. It wasn't their fault. It's an old car, have it checked out somewhere else and if they screwed up then take them to small claims. Trust me, I know a "certified" mechanic that I would't trust putting gas in my car so I really don't stick up for too many mechanics.
Cheapracer is my personality but you can call me Jim '74 Pinto, stock 2.3 turbo, LA3, T-5, 8" 3:55 posi, Former (hot) cars: '71 383 Cuda, 67 440 Cuda, '73 340 Dart, '72 396 Vega, '72 327 El Camino, '84 SVO, '88 LX 5.0

wagonmaster

From what I've seen so far, it almost sounds like a vacuum leak problem. I would tend to agree with you that a carb rarely goes bad instantly, unless you get some bad gas or end up with water in the gas. If they were converting to R134a, as you stated, did they disconnect any of the AC hoses in the engine compartment to replace the seals? If they did, maybe they broke or pulled off a vacuum line without realizing it. The electronic distributors of those years rarely give any trouble. Back when, the control modules would cause the engine to die suddenly. Usually all you had to do was turn the key off for a moment and then restart the engine and it would be okay again for a while. I haven't heard of any replacement control modules doing that for quite sometime.
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'85 LTD LX
'85 LTD Squire wagon

77pintocw

Yes, I agree, not having all the information and details makes it very difficult to guess at what might
have caused a problem, sorry about that.

How about if I approach it this way.  My carburetor is a Motorcraft (Holley) 5200, 2 bbl, on a 2.3L
engine with factory A/C and manual transmission.  The carburetor was running perfectly.  The Ford
service department says it just stopped running correctly and I believe there was nothing wrong
with the carburetor and it was an electrical problem.  Have you ever experienced or heard of a
carburetor running perfectly and then just all of a sudden start running poorly during normal operation?
From my experience cars suddenly start running poorly for three main reaons, bad gas, vacuum leaks, or an electrical problems.  Carburetors tend to gradually get worse over time and not just suddenly start acting poorly.  If I am wrong in this thinking please let me know.  I am not expert but do need to be educated on the subject before I go to court.

Greatly appreciate the help.

Thanks!
1977, Pinto Cruising Wagon, White with Blue Graphics

dirt track demon

This is not an easy question to answer,  is the car running right yet?  The high voltages could cause damage to the duraspark ignition module, the coil, the pickup in the distributor,  various electric emissions components.

  Do you know anything about working on cars yourself?  Have you looked at your spark plugs.  Sometimes you can pinpoint your problem by how they look.  High ignition voltages could have ruined the electrodes. 

  We would need to know what all the dealership did to your car while "trying to fix it". 

  Also, is the egr valve still on the car, sometimes they stick from age and deposits, and will cause a car to do strange things.  Without being able to look at your car and hear what it is doing, it is very hard to answer your question.

  If you know what the egr valve is and where it is at, if you have a hand operated vacuum pump, hook it up to the egr valve vacuum fitting and start pumping and see if it moves,  there is usually only about 14 lbs of vacuum, so if it takes more than that to move it it is probably defective, if it doesnt move at all, it might be stuck open,  then try pushing it closed. 

  As far as the choke goes, if it isnt closing right, it wont run right until it warms up.  It it isn't opening right it will start up ok, but not run right trying to drive it.
  You can start the car, get it warmed up to operating temp, and wire the choke in its open position.  Go for a short drive if it wont run this way, or has no power, the problem lies elsewhere. 

  What kind of carburator is it.  Different carbs have different problems associated with them.  I cant help you much more than this without furthur info.
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Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

77pintocw

Hi:

I need to provide more information on my question about the electric choke.  My local Ford dealership’s service department has damaged my 1977 Pinto by misdiagnosing a problem.  I took my perfectly running 1977 Pinto in to have the A/C converted to the R134A refrigerant and by the end of the day the service department tells me my car is no longer running properly.  After many months and much damage to my car I am forced to take the Ford dealership to small claims court to pay for the damage.  The service department claims my carburetor just stopped running correctly and as a result they completely destroyed my original carburetor.  I believe there was nothing wrong with my carburetor and that a malfunctioning voltage regulator caused my car not to run properly.  Can anyone tell me if a malfunctioning voltage regulator can cause my Pinto to run extremely rough?  By the way, the Ford dealership charged me $616.00 to destroy my Pinto’s engine.

Thanks!
1977, Pinto Cruising Wagon, White with Blue Graphics

dirt track demon

You could also check the wire to the choke with a voltmeter to see if it is getting power to the choke as well.  Have you replaced the voltage regulator yet.  As far as the 19 volts goes,  it might have damaged the duraspark module, coil, or possibly the plugs. 
Favorite place to race:on the xbox

Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

CHEAPRACER

 My '74 choke was tied into the alternator and only sent power to the choke when the engine was running. If you fried the heat coil, it might be staying on choke even when the engine is warm. Take the air filter assembly off and see if it's staying closed. You can shut it off by rotating the choke housing, after loosing the screws, until it is fully open. Of course that will be just fine here in Ca. but maybe not in colder climates.
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77pintocw

Hi:

My question is about a manual, ‘77 Pinto, 2.3 L, A/C with the original fully electric choke on the carburetor.  If for some reason the voltage regulator were to malfunction and allow the electrical system to put out high voltage (19 volts to the battery), could this cause the fully electric choke not to work correctly, which would in turn cause the carburetor to function improperly and make the engine run extremely poorly?

Thanks!
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