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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Quote from: dave1987 on October 14, 2009, 07:04:52 PM


Emissions testing is due this month again, wish me luck!

Good luck!

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A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

dave1987

How ironic. I think I have found my issue with a lot of stuff, like failing to pass emissions last year.

I have had the distributor hooked up to the manifold vacuum all along!

Emissions testing is due this month again, wish me luck!
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Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Right now I've plugged the vacuum port on the EGR valve as well as at the T connection on the vacuum line that continues up to the choke vacuum valve. It seems to have eliminated my idling issue!

I popped the carb off the car again since I didn't do any adjustments to it when I rebuilt it, due to the rebuild happening on a day that I had to put it back together quickly after replacing everything since I had some unexpected emergencies come up that day.

The float drop setting was off by about 1/4 inch. The setting when the float bowl is full was only off by a very small fraction of an inch. Everything else was okay though. How does the float drop setting effect the operation of the engine/carb?
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Lost Coz

If the engine doesn't have to go thru a smog test,  I would just replace the EGR gasket with a metal plate and just block it off.  You won't need to remove anything else and just block off the vacuum line going to it.  I know that the California models had all kinds of vacuum lines and thermo switches that could always cause vacuum problems.  If you never have to smog test the car,  I would just eliminate as much of the garbage as I can.  That would really make tuning alot easier
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dave1987

Thank you for the picture. After seeing that it reminded me that I saw it once before in one of my shop manuals. I went through my Clymer manual and sure enough, it shows exactly where it would be bolted in.

I do not have a decel valve on my intake or anywhere else. I have a plug in place of it's mounting position.

A few months ago I was having trouble tuning the car and was looking into blocking off the EGR mounting port, skip the EGR vacuum and go straight to the choke vacuum. Would this make a difference in the performance of the car at all as far as tuning goes?

If I go and remove the EGR valve, do I need to remove the entire pipe that is connected to the block on the other side of the engine as well?

Why are EGR valves so expensive? I'm looking at $90+ for a replacment!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Lost Coz

Dave,

I might have confused you with the term backfire valve.  The tecnical term is called a deceleration valve and it is located just under the carb attached directly to the manifold.  It will have vacuum line attached to it.  There is a diaphram in that unit that will burn out if the engine backfires. I have attached a picture to give you a better idea of what it will look like.  Sorry for any confusion!
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dave1987

Is this the backfire valve you are talking about?

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I've seen it called a thermactor valve before, and it goes in line between my carb base and my air pump. It is located on the left side of my engine above the exhaust manifold.

I pulled the carb off last night and took it apart entirely, cleaned it all out really well, tightened down screws, and reset my float setting.

The baseplate for the carb comes apart into two pieces, where the crank case vent EGR valve output goes into the base of the carb. I split the two piece base by removing the two allen screws and used carb cleaner to clean it out, but it wasn't cutting it so I used brake cleaner which did a bit better. It was so caked with oil and grease and fuel that it was difficult to clean it even with a screw driver! I let to soak in gas for about 30 minutes which softened it up a good deal, enough for me to clean it out and allow more flow through it.

The car is running much better now, but I still have that concern that it may come back up at any time.

Still smells like gas though...
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Lost Coz

If the motor has a rectangular module hanging off of the manifold just under the carb, that might be where the intake leak is.  It is a backfire valve and if the motor has ever in its life backfired, it has burned the diaphram in that module and will cause a major vacuum leak.  I had a 76 wagon that  was famous for that problem.  I just pulled it off and sealed the hole with a plug.  The thing ran like a top after that.  That is just a thought as the Pinto's with all of the smog crap thru the late 70's were bad as far as vacuum leaks.  Hope that will help!
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FCANON

yeah... I build racing engines for over 20 years.. completing one a week  over 5 years...I still f*<k thing up once in a while....the cam is one of the easiest things to screw up in a rebuild honestly....

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dave1987

I am highly doubting it is the cam as i have a less than 2 year old cam in there which has less than 8k miles on it.

My cousin rebuilt the entire engine with me. I am not thinking he did to much wrong seeing as he has build racing engines and raced cars for 30+ years. However, sometimes people miss things.

I will try a basic tune again.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Pintosopher

Greetings,
It sounds like you have adjusted the Carb to a rich mixture to compensate for a lean condition. And then had to adjust idle speed to stop the engine from shaking.
First, make sure that you have no visually obvious vacuum leaks( hoses unhooked, Missing EGR screws, loose carb flange nuts, etc) , then get the  engine speed down to correct RPM for idle, slowly lean out the mixture, recheck idle RPM. If it won't hold a smooth idle, then get the closest correct idle speed. Now shut off the motor, find a intake manifold vacuum port between the carb base and the cylinder head (use a T fitting to splice in to a hose if necessary) and attach a Vacuum gauge. Restart the motor, check the Vacuum gauge reading at idle. It should read a steady 15 to 17 inches (or HG ) on the gauge dial. If the needle is wildly swinging high and low, you have a vacuum leak , very poorly adjusted or worn-out carb, or a mechanical issue ( blown  head gasket, stuck lifter, bad cam, burned valves or worse). Each of these has a testing procedure or inspection process.
Always start with the tuning, unless you know about the existence of a mechanical problem first. Look now , spend money later..

Good Hunting..

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Pintony

Hello dave1987,
Have you done a compression check???
YES! you should hear a high-pitched noise while the engine is at idle especially if the it is running fast while the butterflys on the carb are closed.
I suspect  a bad cam or siezed rings or blown head gasket.
I have NEW 2.3 cams you just pay 20.00 for the shipping.
I have 80+ new 2.3 cams and they NEED to go!!!!
From Pintony

dave1987

I can't seem to get the 78 Sedan tuned enough to not smell like it's burning a lot of gas, but still idle low enough without the engine shaking like crazy.

Is it normal to hear the sound of a vacuum "leak" coming from the carb barrel?
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!