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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Ponygal

I've followed your story along since you bought your first one and wow!! you've got luck girl!!
I was fortunate enough to find one lonely little Pinto that the salt hadn't eaten away, and here you are stumbling across all these beautiues! Good luck with your projects, I look forward to seeing pics of the progress!
PG
'77 Sedan "Gladys"
2.3L auto - swapping to T-5 2009
Dark brown, saddle interior
Supertrapp, Grant wheel, more mods on the way...

pintogirl

Quote from: pintoman71 on November 19, 2008, 04:14:56 PM
as i said i am parting out the car not offering as a whole but parts from it.

Thanks for letting me know, but the things that I know I need will cost a fortune to send through the mail!!!! Also I don't know what all I need yet, because I havn't stipped my donor car yet!!  I will keep you in mind though when the time comes! That is if you still have it by then!! LOL  Plans are to strip the donor this weekend!
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

pintogirl

Quote from: blupinto on November 16, 2008, 11:02:54 PM
Congratulations on the new arrival Pintogirl!

           Is the new baby brown or copper?  When I saw pix on craigslist (and in real life) of my new arrival I would've sworn her paint was brown. When I wiped a patch of dust off I discovered buried treasure. That made my baby that much more desirable (as if I needed any encouragement!). I'm sorry about your yellow one, though. You gotta do what you gotta do... That is a neat pic of all your babies close together. Is your new one a '72 too?

You know, I really don't know for sure!! LOL I haven't washed it yet. It looks more on the brown side though!

It is on the back burner for now. But I am now debating on R&Ring the front fender, which is straight, and putting it on my grey car. I put a not so great fender on the grey car and I want that car to be a show car one day. So putting the better fender from the brown car would give me a perfect body on the grey. But, in a way I don't want to really break up the brown car, even though it will need bondo work on the rear fender and also has holes cut in the doors for speakers. So really, it will not be a show car. Decisions decisions!!!!! LOL
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

pintoman71

as i said i am parting out the car not offering as a whole but parts from it.

pintoman71

Quote from: pintogirl on November 15, 2008, 06:35:10 PM
Yah, I don't know how I am getting so lucky!! Thing is, we were looking for parts, not a whole car!! LOL

 Yes, we decided that with the bad roof, huge dent with jagged metal edges of the rear quarter panel, and a bit more rust all together on the yellow car, it would be more feasible to use it as a parts swap car.

I tried putting the grill, that was in the back seat, on my Green Machine, but it didn't fit. It must be for a year that doesn't have the hood pull on top! To bad too, it is a fairly good grill. It is missing the top mounting peices but the rest is all there!

Now if I could only find some other needed parts, instead of a whole car!!!!!! LOL


i have a turd brown 1972 i am parting out compleetly. if ur down for making some offers!:) http://picasaweb.google.com/pintoman71/1972Pinto#

blupinto

Congratulations on the new arrival Pintogirl!

           Is the new baby brown or copper?  When I saw pix on craigslist (and in real life) of my new arrival I would've sworn her paint was brown. When I wiped a patch of dust off I discovered buried treasure. That made my baby that much more desirable (as if I needed any encouragement!). I'm sorry about your yellow one, though. You gotta do what you gotta do... That is a neat pic of all your babies close together. Is your new one a '72 too?
One can never have too many Pintos!

pintogirl

Quote from: r4pinto on November 16, 2008, 09:10:40 PM
Sounds like you got a plan going. For the radio trim if it is plastic you can use a black plastic paint to paint it to match. You could probably do the same to the steering column or probably just use regular paint.

The bezel is metal, but yah, I thought about painting them black. But I'm not sure, I may go with the brown and black scheme for now and see how it works!!!! I am also going to be pulling all of the brown interior out of the yellow car for the brown car so it it will have brown rear panels and door panels as well. May not look bad black and brown??  :smile:  We will see eventually!!!!
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

r4pinto

Sounds like you got a plan going. For the radio trim if it is plastic you can use a black plastic paint to paint it to match. You could probably do the same to the steering column or probably just use regular paint.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

pintogirl

Quote from: r4pinto on November 16, 2008, 08:10:17 PM
Sounds like things are in order for the brown car. You going to swap out the rear wheels & steering wheel from the yellow car to the brown car?

Actually I plan on swapping the whole steering column from the yellow one to the brown one.  Only bad thing is, the dash will be black, and the column brown. But who knows, maybe that will look good!! LOL It will also get the radio bezel out of the yellow car which is brown too!! LOL

Yes, I will swap wheels with the yellow car. I only have the 2 mags so I think it will look better with all stock wheels!! I will probably swap wheels with the grey car one day. As I want the grey one to be stock!! The brown car will not need to be stock, just want it to be clean!!!

Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

r4pinto

Sounds like things are in order for the brown car. You going to swap out the rear wheels & steering wheel from the yellow car to the brown car?
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

pintogirl

Quote from: 77turbopinto on November 15, 2008, 06:56:49 PM

IF someone wanted to do it, swapping out the entire dash is the best way, as the rivets are hard to duplicate.

Not to say that anyone SHOULD swap VIN tags.....

The VIN is stamped on both inner fenders, and it is also on the tag in the drivers door jamb. Yes, there might be more hidden ones.

BTW: Are you thinking of selling the rear bumper guards off the brown car?


Bill

I agree, swapping the vin tags would be to much trouble. So I have decided to just keep the browns dash intact and do my best to make it look better!!

Actually, I am going to keep the brown's bumper intact too! So I will be keeping the bumper guards. I just bought a set on ebay recently. I haven't recieved them yet! But you may look there for a set or two! If I do decide to get rid of some I will keep you in mind though!

Kim
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

pintogirl

Quote from: dave1987 on November 15, 2008, 07:54:32 PM
Dang, I wish I could fall into a hand full of Pintos like you! :D

Just curious.....where are you storing all of these cars at??!?  :laugh:

Like this!!!! LOL


What you don't see in the pic, is to the left of the green machine, is a 30ish foot motor home and a Daihatsu Rocky sits in front of it! LOL  It appears there is room behind that little white car next to the house, but we need room to drive cars in and out of the 2400sqft garage that is actually in front of the green machine. I am standing in the roll up door way to take the pic!

I told hubby that if he would park his tow truck (not the one in the pic) out on the street, I would have room for 2 more!!!! LOL And if my kid would find an apt., we could get rid of the trailer that is to the right in the pic!! That would clear up a lot of room!!!! LOL

Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

dave1987

Dang, I wish I could fall into a hand full of Pintos like you! :D

Just curious.....where are you storing all of these cars at??!?  :laugh:
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

77turbopinto

Quote from: pintogirl link=topic=11074.msg70588#msg70588...I don't know how hard it would be to swap vin plates?



IF someone wanted to do it, swapping out the entire dash is the best way, as the rivets are hard to duplicate.

Not to say that anyone SHOULD swap VIN tags.....

The VIN is stamped on both inner fenders, and it is also on the tag in the drivers door jamb. Yes, there might be more hidden ones.

BTW: Are you thinking of selling the rear bumper guards off the brown car?


Bill
Thanks to all U.S. Military members past & present.

pintogirl

Quote from: Reed on November 15, 2008, 06:21:28 PM
To pull the dash you have to pull the front window.  There are about eight phillips-head screws tucked under the windshield gasket that hold the dash on.

I don't know how you are so lucky!  You need to start a thread for each of your PIntos....

Oh, thanks for the tip!!

The only bad thing is, the vin number would go with the dash and I would think that would cause problems!! Usually cars have a hidden vin, and if for some reason they ever tried to check it, they wouldn't match up!!  I don't know how hard it would be to swap vin plates?

Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

pintogirl

Yah, I don't know how I am getting so lucky!! Thing is, we were looking for parts, not a whole car!! LOL

 Yes, we decided that with the bad roof, huge dent with jagged metal edges of the rear quarter panel, and a bit more rust all together on the yellow car, it would be more feasible to use it as a parts swap car.

I tried putting the grill, that was in the back seat, on my Green Machine, but it didn't fit. It must be for a year that doesn't have the hood pull on top! To bad too, it is a fairly good grill. It is missing the top mounting peices but the rest is all there!

Now if I could only find some other needed parts, instead of a whole car!!!!!! LOL

Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

Reed

To pull the dash you have to pull the front window.  There are about eight phillips-head screws tucked under the windshield gasket that hold the dash on.

I don't know how you are so lucky!  You need to start a thread for each of your PIntos....
Looking for:  Rear and side window louvers for a 71 sedan, 15 inch aluminum slotted mags and tires (Ansen sprint style), and an Offenhauser dual-port intake for a 2000cc motor.

r4pinto

Kim,

How can you be so lucky to find so many in such great shape? Sounds like you have a good plan to save this brown one & get rid of the yellow one that needs more work.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Pintosopher

Kim ,
This is just silly :amazed: How can you be so damned lucky? I bought my '72 From a Pinto / Mustang II/ Capri Salvage yard in Napa in 1985. The owner brokered the sale as the car came from San Diego.
  I never saw that many clean  early cars in the whole yard. Later the city and county ran him out of business a few years later. He took his stuff that wasn't wholesaled out for scrap and moved to Sacramento.
 
Well , at least you'll do the right thing for the Legacy of these cars...

Hey, let's get the Rights to repro the Pinto Stuff from IECO!
 
Now I have an Imprint of my hand in my forehead :drunk:

Pintosopher
Yes, it is possible to study and become a master of Pintosophy.. Not a religion , nothing less than a life quest for non conformity and rational thought. What Horse did you ride in on?

Check my Pinto Poems out...

pintogirl

Hubby and I ran over to pick n pull to check out a supposedly green pinto! We looked through every area to no avail!! So on the way home he called a guy that deals with Ford cars, mostly Mustangs, but he has others too. Asked him if he had any Pinto parts. He said no, but his buddy had a complete car he wanted to off load!! Needless to say, we didn't find any parts on this Pinto that I could use. Instead, we bought the whole car and now it will become a restorer!!! Bad new is, I"m going to use my yellow car for parts now! The brown car is in much better shape then the yellow, and I plan on putting all the interior from the yellow into the brown car! The interior for the yellow car is brown!!! LOL

I want to pull the whole metal dash out of the yellow car! Is that possible? I havn't looked that close yet! The brown cars dash is pretty rough!

Here are some pics of the brown car!


This is the worst damage on the car! Alot better then the yellow car!!





Here is the inside. Needs some work, also, look at the grille I know have for the Green Machine!!!! :) The brown car already has a good grille!!! Now I have all 3 cars with good grills!!!!


As you can see, this dash has been gutted, it also has some holes that someone drilled to maybe hold a cb mic or something. That is the reason I want to switch the complete metal dash out of the yellow car! Besides the yellow cars dash is emaculate!!!! Well, expcept for the pad!


All I wanted was to find a Pinto I could find for parts!!! I keep finding good Pintos!! LOL  I will take everything I want off the yellow Pinto, put the parts I don't want off of the cars I'm keeping, back on the yellow car. Then I will sell the yellow car as a whole, to my neighbor who wants one to hot rod!!! So it is still going to live on, but in many different colors!!! LOL

Kim, the pinto fanatic!!!!! LOL
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA