hi im alex,i was wondering if anyone has stuck a supercharged 3.8 into a pinto???if so what all did you have to modify to get the motor to work??
Hi alex, Havent heard of anyone doing it as of yet, That is what I wanted to do with mine but I dont have time right now to even attempt that one. When i do have time I will be doing this swap.
im looking for a 71-72 runabout to do that to.ill have to get a job as i lost mine in aug.i was just wondering is all.i love pintos and mark vii's
supercharge a 4 cylinder....
Quote from: RSM on November 16, 2010, 10:12:16 PM
supercharge a 4 cylinder....
lol ive seen it done,but i havent seen a supercharged 3.8 though
I haven't either. I did a little research last night and didn't find anything. It's not that it can't be done but it would be pricey to say the least
i know i just want something different.and ive been stuck on it for close to 2 years or more!!!!
A Friend of mine that has done a 302 Swap into his Pinto many years ago told me that the Essex 3.8 is basically a 302 minus 2 Cyl. If that is the case, then his Argument with me about using the 2.3l Leftside long mounts would allow installation into a 75+ Pinto/bobcat. but as to a 71-72 I have no Idea. im not a wealth of info I just have Speculation on the Subject. Hopefully that will change next year.
Quote from: 75bobcatv6 on November 18, 2010, 01:35:56 AM
A Friend of mine that has done a 302 Swap into his Pinto many years ago told me that the Essex 3.8 is basically a 302 minus 2 Cyl. If that is the case, then his Argument with me about using the 2.3l Leftside long mounts would allow installation into a 75+ Pinto/bobcat. but as to a 71-72 I have no Idea. im not a wealth of info I just have Speculation on the Subject. Hopefully that will change next year.
yeah its basically a 302 i believe???but if i need a welder i got one already if its necessary.my dad was a welder for 22 years so i think he can do it!!!!
well i just grabbed my hand dandy chitons and its not. its bore is:3.910,and its stroke is:3.390,the pistons are the same diameter as a 318 mopar lol.but dont know about compression height, or piston pin.just somethin i thought of.
EDIT: its 3.81 not 3.91 my eyes zoop sorry guys
hell im 30 and my eyes are crap. lol. As to the measurements i have no idea. Im starting from scratch here on that one. i know some stuff but not everything. im still learning as i go with some stuff. I really enjoy workin on the bobcats we have here at home. my 75 and my fiancee's 78. I am still planning on using a 3.8l and an AoD trans for it, but i am waiting to hear from my dads friend to see when he will be down here next so we can talk some shop and get it going first. I should have a mock block by then. and hopefully some space at another friends to do the work at.
i need to find a pinto or bobcat first.i currently own a 1989 lincoln mark vii lsc.its too slow for my taste.i want to run a t-5 behind the 3.8 with a 8" or a 8.8 with 3.55 gears.if everything goes as planned i will have a car with cage and thru the floor sub-frames.ive had this in my head for 2years plus!!!!so ive went threw a lot of ideas.
Why not take the 5.0 H.O. out of the Lincoln and drop it in the Pinto? Factory headers and everything!
I've owned a '90 Mark VII, a '84 T-Bird, and a '80 Pinto in this life. The austerity Pinto was a lot more solid car that rusted and broke down far less than the luxury coupes were. The Mark VII was nicknamed the Sinkin Lincoln because it was prone to air suspension problems.
Quote from: dholvrsn on November 20, 2010, 05:36:38 AM
Why not take the 5.0 H.O. out of the Lincoln and drop it in the Pinto? Factory headers and everything!
I've owned a '90 Mark VII, a '84 T-Bird, and a '80 Pinto in this life. The austerity Pinto was a lot more solid car that rusted and broke down far less than the luxury coupes were. The Mark VII was nicknamed the Sinkin Lincoln because it was prone to air suspension problems.
if i get a pinto im going to give the mark to may dad after i redo the exhaust.
A super coupe swap would be really cool. I would try to find a donor car so you can get everything you need and just swap it in. I'm sure there aren't many around if any!
Ive ran into a few at the local yards here. sometimes I run into the Mercury version as well. next time I am there or if i can find one on Craigslist for a decent price ill get it, and pull what i need im sure AMJ will be doing the same =) once he gets a pinto that is
One thing I was thinking about is that if the 3.8 is shorter than the V8, that maybe you could mount it an inch or two farther forward and solve a few of the clearance problems with the bell-housing and the firewall.
why use a 3.8 they were never really a power house motor, even with a supercharger, i would v8 or 2.3 turbo it all the way!!
i had a mustang 3.8 and it was a dog, slow stang all the way, my 5.0 was a screamer!! i can respect the use of a v6 being that my bobcat has a 2.8 v6 but if i was going to but all that work and time into something i would make it worth while!!!
just my 2 cents
Alex,
If you want fast, I would agree with the 2.3 turbo. But if you want something different, go with your original plan. I would love to see that, it is what keeps the hobby interesting.
P
What about an explorer 4.0 v6.They make the explorer move pretty good.
those motors are terrible to work on...i just put a rebuilt engine in one. I wouldn't even consider it...JMO
I had a 3.0 that moved my '93 Aerostar pretty good also. I could only imagine what it would do in a car half the weight, and with a little tweaking. My '78 Runabout has the 2.8 and it isn't too bad on power for being stock. I still agree with the 2.3 turbo if you want a screamer. V8s make the car TOO nose heavy. You have much more to modify than just the engine mounts for a V8 of any kind. Unless your looking to build a drag car, stick to the smaller lighter engines. My 2.8 is heaver than a 2.3 and have trouble taking off without spinning the tires at many stop lights.
That is my two cents also.
Question....what do you plan to do about the front sump oil pan on all of the aforementioned engines?
just asking...
The oil pan was the problem that I didn't want to deal with when I was considering that swap.
Hey Alex - any progress ? (This summerI will be building one like this )
The V8 Pinto has been done to death.
A turbo 4 would be fun but . . .
While not capable of huge power numbers, the supercharged V6 should be a lot of fun in a 2,000 lb car :)
- LJ
I am anxiously awaiting that project too. My friend has a T-Bird SC with a beefed up 3.8 with headers ported blower, cam, ported heads, full exhaust, and a lot of other mods. I think it made 320-330 HP at the wheels. The blower whine at WOT is wild too. Sounds just like the 03-04 Terminator Cobras :)
pattywagon1977
QuoteV8s make the car TOO nose heavy.
Not true of all V8s. The Rover 4.0 or 4.6 V8 weighs just 320 pounds or so(about 20 pounds LESS than a 2.3). That was the endpoint of my search for an engine, the 4.6 can easily reach 300 hp. Does it count that the engine was made by them when Ford owned the company?
Grumpy 8)
I would think about using an aluminum 351w, but that would take cubic dollars that I do not have to do.
This would be suitable rans plant into a Pinto. The following specs pertain to a car weighing almost 75% more than a Pinto. Considering this for my 73 wagon.
89-93 Engine Specifications:
Type: Supercharged OHV V-6
Bore x stroke, mm: 96.8 x 86.0
Displacement, cc: 3802
Displacement, ci: 232
Compression ratio: 8.2:1
Bhp@RPM, SAE net: 210@4000
Torque, lb-ft@RPM: 315@2600
Fuel delivery: Multi-Port Electronic fuel-injection
Fuel requirement: unleaded, 92+ octane
Exhaust-emission control equipment: 3-way catalytic converter,
exhaust-gas re-circulation, air injection
i saw a couple wagons the other day and asked about parts the guy has a3.8 in his cruzing wagon he is building i didnt look at it close but ill try to get ahold of him and get some info for you