I've been looking over "Bobbie" real close the last 2 days and I have my doubts...
I was going to strip this Bobcat for parts but....
has some rust, some of it serious... floorboards and the frame section under the front driver side are my main concerns. I have 121 pictures on the page I have linked below. It runs and drives good, real good, but the body and rust have me concerned....
I just hate idea of stripping this 1980 Mercury Sport! with Ford Factory! Front and Rear Spoilers :o
for pictures click here ~~> http://s438.photobucket.com/albums/qq103/cookieboystoys/1980%20Sport%20Bobcat/2010/ (http://s438.photobucket.com/albums/qq103/cookieboystoys/1980%20Sport%20Bobcat/2010/)
take a look and let me know... what do you think :-\
anyone wanna buy it? I don't really need another project :lost:
Brian was that used as a boat anchor :lol: drive it over here I have plenty of rust free with clear titles. Fred :)
it's a Minnesota car, flavored with salt. Better yet, send me a good body w/title, want a '79 ;D
Brian
Fred is right. Get a rust free body from him and clone
this car. It would be a sweet car, but not worthy of
all the rust repair. You did a remarkable job on your
HOT PANTS car, so cloning this car should be a cake
walk. It would be a shame to loose this great car to
rust.
Bill
Bill, my thought all along has been to clone it but... finding a body has been the hard part. I have 3 - '80's
One I drive all the time and has it's own rust issues, two is for parts only and the third is Bobbie. I was going to use my '80 Pinto that I drive and call it a Pincat Rallye Sport, use some of the badging from both Ford/Mercury and combine to confuse the masses.
By the time I get a good body from Fred, have it shipped and the cost for that, I'll be well... more than I could spend on this project and we will not even mention time required. I have to many projects already, this one... I can't justify unless I find a better car to start with cheep and close to home.
Bobbie will live on in the many parts I can pull but even that is work and such a pitty to loose this car to the rust gods. Likely you and Fred are correct and it will be scrapped, just wanted to see what others thought.
Cookieboy, yes she has rust issues but I've seen worse. I hope you reconsider parting out Bobbie. Clones are clones- not the real deal. If there's any way to preserve herI hope you do it. I know floors can be welded on, and I suggest maybe yearly cleaning-painting of the undercarriage (like the Navy does for their ships! Except they paint ALL of the ship! lol. ) I guess what I'm getting at is follow your heart. If you feel Bobbie is worth saving (I know I do) then do it! I'll be cheering you on. I know it's a big project but you asked for my opinion so here it is. If I had the means I would save Dave's '76 Runabout Squire (in the junkyard) AND Opal, the '72 Sprint I would LOOOOVE to adopt. Money is an object to me, but I'd find a way. Good luck Cookieboy!
Personally, I'm scared of rust and would part it out. The scariest part is the cross member from what I've seen. Rocker panels, body panels and floors can be replaced/repaired and control arms and shackles and the like can be replaced. Honestly, knowing you DO have a budget like the rest of us, it's to far gone to justify it. However, it all depends on how fond you are of the ralley Pintos. I'm a huge fan of the squire runabout and would love to pull the one from the Junk Yard here for $450, but replacing the roof would require more money than I can afford.
Like i said earlier keep the parts bud till you can use them. If not you can send me that spoiler it would look real slick on my 78! :lol:
There isnt anyway i would ever sell that car i would keep it till i could use the parts i wouldnt mess with the rust i know where 1-79 and 1-80 pinto is right now but really does it need to be an 80?
Couldnt ya just swap on the 79-80 front end and dash and tail lights to a rust free shell thats 74 or newer?
Thanks, blu, dave and timmay...
ever since I got this car I have considered nothing else except a parts car. I just think the rust is to much. I have and seen others save worse but... I know that cost.
I bought it because of the front and rear spoilers, the drive train and interior parts were a surprise, had new tires and the leaf springs are spoken for. It's a treasure trove of parts but wanted to see what others thought...
The front valance and the rear spoiler would be great candidates to put on a better car! And the dash pad looks to be in immaculate shape, ready to go into a show car!
I would love the mudflaps! :D
yah that driver side sub frame would be the nail in her coffin for me but i feel ur pain i cut up a 76 mpg squire runabout it was ruffler than urs but less rust
Just a question,would those doors fit on a 78 wagon?
Dave, I pulled the spoilers right away to save for something better. I do already have a request on the mud flaps (he's missing 1) but if not or if he only wants 1 I can send the other 2. Dashpad does have a couple cracks on top, just can't see in the pics, good canidate for a cover.
when I start to strip the car... complete interior is spoken for, so are the rear leafs
Tonij1960 - doors for hatchback/sedan are different than wagon. Do you need wagon doors? where are you?
Brian this is an 80 rust and dent free with clear title for $200.00 has extra red seat to replace your driver 1. Have 2 engine hoist and plenty of tool's so drive on over and start swaping out. Fred :)
LOL! Fred.... I wish that was a possibility but... you to far away! LOL! would cost me far to much to get that car home, then it would be more work than I have time for...
I'm thinking to strip and scrap... just needed a kick-in-the-rear to get me back on track
The red in this bobcat is different than any Pinto I have seen, darker... It was mentioned to me once that Mercury used slightly differnt colors for interiors vs. their Ford counter parts. maybe I can send you a cutting from the front seat to see if you really do have a matching seat, I would only need the back, rest is fine
Brian you look at it the wrong way it's a vacation like I did last summer delivering part's for free and besides when car is done I will take you in boat up river to see the naked lady's :hypno: Fred :)
Fred! naked ladies... almost had me there.... LOL!
PM me your mail address, I will get you a sample of the torn seat to see if it matches color
Cookieboy it's a Canadian car!
Pitony seas that they are the best Pintos.
Leonard, mine is a canadian too :D
Hey Fred, what would it take to get you to make an eastern swing with parts? :-)
Seriously, I miss living in Phoenix, especially when it comes to cars and rust. Never had a rusty car there, here it is the norm.
Cookieboytoys, I just had to scrap a 1976 Mustang II that I had really tried to save, but it was just too far gone. When I discovered that the crossmember had rusted out where the upper control arm bolts on I had no choice. I couldn't pay to get that fixed, and it wasn't something I could do myself. Hurts a bit, but it will live in in a way in my Pinto, since I am using lots of the stuff from it on the Pinto.
Russ
FRED , you never said any thing about "naked ladies "on the river when I visited!
Russ I could actually over and back for $1988.00 in fuel. Last trip did a lot of back and forth drove over 9000 miles $3336.89 fuel. Joy and I last couple a day's been talking about Carlisle PA in June would need to sell 1 of my Pinto's to help cover fuel cost. Hey what can I say you do the math 7.4 miles to a gallon. Fred :)
Quote from: russosborne on June 28, 2010, 04:02:03 PM
I just had to scrap a 1976 Mustang II that I had
Hey Russ, me too this year... a 1976 Ghia that sat for to many years.
I think this is the summer of scrap for me this year, no fun, just scrappin
I have the bobcat and 2 Pinto's that need to go before summer is done....
That was what mine was!!!
Yeah, it sat out in a field. Apparently much longer than the seller told me. But it was my fault, I didn't go over/under it very well because I didn't want to get muddy. stupid me.
Really wish some of you guys/girls were on this side of the Mississippi.
A rust free car for $200. Fred, you are killing all of us in the rust belt.!
:-)
Russ
Thanks for the imput everyone, made the decision easier I suppose...
I have started...
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(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq103/cookieboystoys/1980%20Sport%20Bobcat/2010/day%201/bobcatday1teardown010.jpg)
tomorrow I should be able to finish the interior, then move on to engine and tranny...
Fred, I have an envelope ready to send you ;)
I guess I shouldnt've bothered putting my 2c worth in... it was blown away anyhow.
I suppose this sounds like sour grapes but if you were going to piece it out anyway why ask for our opinions? I'm bummed another Bobcat... a rare one at that... is going to the trash heap like so many others. I'll get over it... but I'll be less apt to put my 2c worth in when it'll be avalanched anyway. :(
sorry you feel that way blu, wasn't my intention.... like you I started this thread because I hated to see it go. Unfortunatly this car really isn't worth saving as a whole. Tears me up to but... it will live on in other cars if that helps. I know it doesn't but best I can offer.
I don't name my cars, I just refer to them by color and year, Bobbie will be remembered :(
Hey i just noticed your sport has the same interior as my 78 well except for the dash. :lol:
Red interior definently looks better with a red car then my red interior with a silver car! :o
So many good parts! YAY parts!
Hey Becky it could be worse he could be like the idiots around here and instead of saving parts they just scrap the whole car in one piece!
Quote from: Bigtimmay on June 28, 2010, 10:39:37 PM
Hey Becky it could be worse he could be like the idiots around here and instead of saving parts they just scrap the whole car in one piece!
I have talked to to many durby guys around here that will just strip everything they don't need and just thow it in the dumpster. Don't even bother to part it out or sell anything :o
and they only want the rust free cars! if floors are rotted, they don't want them. One guy I talked to last fall had 3 Pintos, stripped to the bones for durby, no motors, trans, interior, ect... all for sale because he didn't need them :o :o
My first pinto which was a v6 79 i paid 300 for it for the price of scrap because the guy was gunna crush it and the only thing wrong with it was it needed a new rear brakeline. It only had 30k miles on it when we got it and when we sold it it had over 100k.
Some of the stuff people around here crush is just insane i seen a 70 challenger that pretty much just needed paint and a motor get crushed and a 59 convertible impala that still ran.....
Quote from: lencost on June 28, 2010, 03:02:17 PM
Cookieboy it's a Canadian car!
Pitony seas that they are the best Pintos.
That could help explain why my old '80 was so good!
Brian all my car's are CA AZ desert car's no rust. I still think you should drive it over here and swap part's out oh yea I will give you that wild rail ride. You can also take these new tire's and 14" 4 lug if you want. Fred :)
is that a good deal or what
Quote from: Fred Morgan on June 29, 2010, 10:17:31 AM
I still think you should drive it over here and swap part's out
Fred, you have no idea how
much! I would love to do that and come for a visit. I'm still sorry I didn't get out your way when I was in California :'(
but the time off to do something like that... just doesn't happen anymore for me, 6 days a week, 52 weeks of the year and the only time off is the long holiday weekends.... and I still have to many projects going on right now to consider another... currently have 9 Pinto's in my yard ???
Dave that's because it was winter time. The west coast girl's can't keep their bikini's on out here maybe it's to hot for them. Fred 8)
whats wrong with those girls...it was as warm as it is here in the summer!
Hey Fred, you have rails too??
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Quote from: flash041 on June 29, 2010, 08:00:24 PM
whats wrong with those girls...it was as warm as it is here in the summer!
Dave, you have to understand the west coasters... when I lived out there 20+ years ago....
60 degrees they turn on heat, and wear hats, gloves, coats...
I was in shorts and tank top... they thought I was weird...
(OK... maybe not 60, but 50 is freezing to them)
Brian hey look exact match. Keith yes I do have a rail. Fred :)
Quote from: Fred Morgan on July 01, 2010, 12:58:49 PM
Brian hey look exact match. Fred :)
OK Fred, I want it! If the back is Perfect? (for 30+ years old) with no rips or seams coming loose? I Just need the back, not the bottom and Oops! I forgot to look at the rail for the seat, I will tonight.
do you think it can be boxed and shipped thru ups? will it be to big? you have my zip right?
I don't see any tears. To keep ship down what if I took cover off then it could go in small box with very little weight. Fred :)
let me take the cover off mine, I want to see how easy it will be to swap just the cover.
do not remove the one you have yet, please.
Quote from: Fred Morgan on July 01, 2010, 01:33:30 PM
To keep ship down what if I took cover off then it could go in small box with very little weight. Fred :)
Fred, I'll take the whole back and pay the shipping... I found a good seat rail so I won't need one of thoes.
Just the complete seat back, I'll PM the ship to address :-)
Whoo Hoo!
Quote from: Fred Morgan on July 01, 2010, 12:58:49 PM
Keith yes I do have a rail. Fred :)
I may have to visit you with one of mine one day. Id love to hit the dunes out there. Ive got a set of paddles I bought for Silver Lake, MI. so Im all set.