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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Pinto5.0

Quote from: Fred Morgan on July 01, 2010, 12:58:49 PM
Keith yes I do have a rail.  Fred   :)

I may have to visit you with one of mine one day. Id love to hit the dunes out there. Ive got a set of paddles I bought for Silver Lake, MI. so Im all set.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: Fred Morgan on July 01, 2010, 01:33:30 PM
To keep ship down what if I took cover off then it could go in small box with very little weight.  Fred   :)

Fred, I'll take the whole back and pay the shipping... I found a good seat rail so I won't need one of thoes.

Just the complete seat back, I'll PM the ship to address :-)

Whoo Hoo!
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

let me take the cover off mine, I want to see how easy it will be to swap just the cover.

do not remove the one you have yet, please.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Fred Morgan

I don't see any tears. To keep ship down what if I took cover off then it could go in small box with very little weight.  Fred   :)
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Cookieboystoys

Quote from: Fred Morgan on July 01, 2010, 12:58:49 PM
Brian hey look exact match. Fred   :)

OK Fred, I want it! If the back is Perfect? (for 30+ years old) with no rips or seams coming loose? I Just need the back, not the bottom and Oops! I forgot to look at the rail for the seat, I will tonight.

do you think it can be boxed and shipped thru ups? will it be to big? you have my zip right?
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Fred Morgan

Brian hey look exact match. Keith yes I do have a rail.  Fred   :)
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Cookieboystoys

Quote from: flash041 on June 29, 2010, 08:00:24 PM
whats wrong with those girls...it was as warm as it is here in the summer!

Dave, you have to understand the west coasters... when I lived out there 20+ years ago....

60 degrees they turn on heat, and wear hats, gloves, coats...

I was in shorts and tank top... they thought I was weird...

(OK... maybe not 60, but 50 is freezing to them)
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Pinto5.0

'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

flash041

whats wrong with those girls...it was as warm as it is here in the summer!
1978 Pinto Cruising wagon (I am the original owner ! ) Built Aug 15th 1977 in NJ
1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

Fred Morgan

Dave that's because it was winter time. The west coast girl's can't keep their bikini's on out here maybe it's to hot for them.  Fred   8)
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Cookieboystoys

Quote from: Fred Morgan on June 29, 2010, 10:17:31 AM
I still think you should drive it over here and swap part's out

Fred, you have no idea how much! I would love to do that and come for a visit. I'm still sorry I didn't get out your way when I was in California  :'(

but the time off to do something like that... just doesn't happen anymore for me, 6 days a week, 52 weeks of the year and the only time off is the long holiday weekends.... and I still have to many projects going on right now to consider another... currently have 9 Pinto's in my yard  ???
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Fred Morgan

Brian all my car's are CA AZ desert car's no rust. I still think you should drive it over here and swap part's out oh yea I will give you that wild rail ride. You can also take these new tire's and 14" 4 lug if you want.  Fred   :)

is that a good deal or what
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dholvrsn

Quote from: lencost on June 28, 2010, 03:02:17 PM
Cookieboy it's a Canadian car!
Pitony seas that they are the best Pintos.

That could help explain why my old '80 was so good!
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Bigtimmay

My first pinto which was a v6 79 i paid 300 for it for the price of scrap because the guy was gunna crush it and the only thing wrong with it was it needed a new rear brakeline. It only had 30k miles on it when we got it and when we sold it it had over 100k.

Some of the stuff people around here crush is just insane i seen a 70 challenger that pretty much just needed paint and a motor get crushed and a 59 convertible impala that still ran.....
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: Bigtimmay on June 28, 2010, 10:39:37 PM
Hey Becky it could be worse he could be like the idiots around here and instead of saving parts they just scrap the whole car in one piece!

I have talked to to many durby guys around here that will just strip everything they don't need and just thow it in the dumpster. Don't even bother to part it out or sell anything  :o

and they only want the rust free cars! if floors are rotted, they don't want them. One guy I talked to last fall had 3 Pintos, stripped to the bones for durby, no motors, trans, interior, ect... all for sale because he didn't need them  :o  :o
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Bigtimmay

Hey i just noticed your sport has the same interior as my 78 well except for the dash.  :lol:
Red interior definently looks better with a red car then my red interior with a silver car!  :o
So many good parts! YAY parts!

Hey Becky it could be worse he could be like the idiots around here and instead of saving parts they just scrap the whole car in one piece!
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

Cookieboystoys

sorry you feel that way blu, wasn't my intention.... like you I started this thread because I hated to see it go. Unfortunatly this car really isn't worth saving as a whole. Tears me up to but... it will live on in other cars if that helps. I know it doesn't but best I can offer.

I don't name my cars, I just refer to them by color and year, Bobbie will be remembered  :(
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

blupinto

I guess I shouldnt've bothered putting my 2c worth in... it was blown away anyhow.

I suppose this sounds like sour grapes but if you were going to piece it out anyway why ask for our opinions? I'm bummed another Bobcat... a rare one at that... is going to the trash heap like so many others. I'll get over it... but I'll be less apt to put my 2c worth in when it'll be avalanched anyway. :(
One can never have too many Pintos!

Cookieboystoys

Thanks for the imput everyone, made the decision easier I suppose...

I have started...





tomorrow I should be able to finish the interior, then move on to engine and tranny...

Fred, I have an envelope ready to send you  ;)
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

russosborne

That was what mine was!!!
Yeah, it sat out in a field. Apparently much longer than the seller told me. But it was my fault, I didn't go over/under it very well because I didn't want to get muddy. stupid me.

Really wish some of you guys/girls were on this side of the Mississippi.
A rust free car for $200. Fred, you are killing all of us in the rust belt.!
:-)

Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: russosborne on June 28, 2010, 04:02:03 PM
I just had to scrap a 1976 Mustang II that I had

Hey Russ, me too this year... a 1976 Ghia that sat for to many years.

I think this is the summer of scrap for me this year, no fun, just scrappin

I have the bobcat and 2 Pinto's that need to go before summer is done....
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Fred Morgan

Russ I could actually over and back for $1988.00 in fuel. Last trip did a lot of back and forth drove over 9000 miles $3336.89 fuel. Joy and I last couple a day's been talking about Carlisle PA in June would need to sell 1 of my Pinto's to help cover fuel cost. Hey what can I say you do the math 7.4 miles to a gallon.  Fred   :)
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flash041

FRED , you never said any thing about "naked ladies "on the river when I visited!
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russosborne

Hey Fred, what would it take to get you to make an eastern swing with parts? :-)
Seriously, I miss living in Phoenix, especially when it comes to cars and rust. Never had a rusty car there, here it is the norm.

Cookieboytoys, I just had to scrap a 1976 Mustang II that I had really tried to save, but it was just too far gone. When I discovered that the crossmember had rusted out where the upper control arm bolts on I had no choice. I couldn't pay to get that fixed, and it wasn't something I could do myself. Hurts a bit, but it will live in in a way in my Pinto, since I am using lots of the stuff from it on the Pinto.
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

Cookieboystoys

It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

lencost

Cookieboy it's a Canadian car!
Pitony seas that they are the best Pintos.
1975 Wagon 8" C4 2.8 V6

Cookieboystoys

Fred! naked ladies... almost had me there.... LOL!

PM me your mail address, I will get you a sample of the torn seat to see if it matches color
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Fred Morgan

Brian you look at it the wrong way it's a vacation like I did last summer delivering part's for free and besides when car is done I will take you in boat up river to see the naked lady's  :hypno:  Fred   :)
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January 20th 1951-January 6th 2014

Beloved PCCA Parts Supplier and Friend to many.
Post your well wishes,
http://www.fordpinto.com/in-memory-of-our-fallen-pinto-heros/fred-morgan-23434/

Cookieboystoys

LOL! Fred.... I wish that was a possibility but... you to far away! LOL! would cost me far to much to get that car home, then it would be more work than I have time for...

I'm thinking to strip and scrap... just needed a kick-in-the-rear to get me back on track

The red in this bobcat is different than any Pinto I have seen, darker... It was mentioned to me once that Mercury used slightly differnt colors for interiors vs. their Ford counter parts. maybe I can send you a cutting from the front seat to see if you really do have a matching seat, I would only need the back, rest is fine
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Fred Morgan

Brian this is an 80 rust and dent free with clear title for $200.00 has extra red seat to replace your driver 1. Have 2 engine hoist and plenty of tool's so drive on over and start swaping out.  Fred   :)
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Beloved PCCA Parts Supplier and Friend to many.
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