Hello all
I Just started restoring my 78 Crusing wagon a few weeks ago.I bought the car new in July 1979 .It was at Don's Ford in Utica NY.I was planning on ordering a 1980 crusing wagon .I stopped by the dealer and found my 78 among all the 79's they had.I took it for a test drive , made the deal and had it delivered to my workplace that Friday ! Its only been driven a few winters ,so while it has rust , its not too bad.Except for July 1997-March 1998 it has been sitting for the past 17 years .It has the 2.8 V6 .I have started going through the engine first.So far I have put new valve cover gaskets on it,rebuilt the carb ,new heater core and raditor,water pump ,hoses plugs, wires.I plan to get the mechinals done first then do the body.I dont want a show car.just a nice looking driver.
:welcome: Crusing wagons are just plain cool, love the '77-'78 body style! Got any pics? ;D
Wow :surprised: A true one-owner Pinto Cruisin' Wagon WAY cool!
Dwayne :smile:
Very cool! Good to see another 78 single owner here on the boards! While I am not an original owner, I am the son of the original owner and I most, if not all, of the history of the car. Don't forget, this thread is useless without pictures! ;) :P
I am the original owner of a 1977 Pinto Cruising Wagon also. My wife tried many times to get me to sell it but I didn't give in. Ordered it new in late 1976. Mine is the silver deluxe taped one in the middle of the page. (http://www.fordpinto.com/yourwagons.htm) The mentioned restoration is currently under way. Good to hear someone else hung onto theirs all this time also!
sorry all my pics are too large to d/l on the forum.Do you know how I can reduce the size so I can post them ?
Upload them through Photobucket or a similar image hosting website and you will have the option to resize the files during the upload.
-beegle55
Here is a pic from the late 80's taken on a drained lake bed in upstate ny.
Here is one of my car in my garage starting the restore.
Even with the small areas of rust...she, is, a, BEAUTY! If you get it repainted, will you be keeping that same color and decal (tape) combination?
Cool cool cool. Good luck with the restoration and :welcome: to the forums! I would love to have a cruising wagon just like yours, but for now I will just have to admire.
-beegle55
Wow!!! :amazed: I too am a Pinto fanatic, and I really wanted a cruising wagon in the late 70's. I had one child, and thought it'd be a great car for a small family. The cruising wagon was really nice because it gave you that customized van look (which was popular in the late 70's early 80's), without the huge price tag. I did drive one at that time, which was a year old. I wanted it really bad, but settled for a 1975 Pinto Squire wagon instead, it just had more equipment, and it was going to be my wife's car. Had to keep her happy. Anyway, I'm happy to hear of you all keeping your original Pintos, no matter what the model. I wish I had the ones back I've owned in the past, just didn't think about keeping them at the time. Hindsight, Huh????? Anyway, nice car, it'll be great when you get her back to her original beauty and grace. Larry :police:
I plan to repaint it all original.Instead of tape I plan to paint the stripes on.I also had a 1975 Squire wagon.It was my car before my crusing wagon.I kept it to use as a winter car to save my 78.After several winters it got too draftey {rust holes} to drive.
Got it running yesterday!! sounds good ! Iletit run for about 30 min or so.It had a little blow by, mabe once it runs for a bit it will et less.It does sound strong and smooth.It will need some exhaust work , a crossover pipe at least , does any one know where one might be had ?
still working on it! started doing the brakes.Bought a wire feed welder to do rust repair.And got my collector plates!
So now you can cruise in that C/W, right? I should see if I can get collector plates for my car!
Chuck
Where in Wisconsin are you? If you are close to Milwaukee, you need to bring the car to the Milwaukee Mile on May 3rd for Drive the Mile. You will be able to meet up with cookieboy and one of his cars as well as both of my cars and maybe a Bobcat or two. Plus your admission will be FREE.
I cant wait to see it complete and finished.
Mark
Mark
I live in the Madison area.I dont think ill have it ready for the Milwaukee mile this year . I still may come in my 93 2.3 Mustang Convertible.
Quote from: flash041 on March 24, 2009, 09:43:42 PM
Mark
I live in the Madison area.I dont think ill have it ready for the Milwaukee mile this year . I still may come in my 93 2.3 Mustang Convertible.
COOL ;D ;D Tell your friends and neighbors to bring whatever they want because we allow ANYTHING with current registration and insurance on the track. It's open to the general public at 11am-3pm. Make sure you stop by and see at least my red squire wagon and whatever Cookieboy brings down. There might be a couple of more but we will see how things go.
I can expect to maybe see the CW at the Power Tour right ? ;D
let me know where and what time to be there.Are your wife's/girl friends going to be there? I asked my wife to go , but she is afraid is a "guy thing".Should I preregister on line , or just show up?The web site says its $10 to preregister and $15 that day. I will be at the Spring Jefferson swap meet April 24th-26th. What is "Power Tour '?
got the brakes all done today!I may put the wheels back on and take ut for a short ride before I start the body work.
First time my Pinto has seen the light of day in 11 yrs! The body man who will be painting my car wanted to look at it to give me a few tips on fixing the rust.I plan to do all the metal work and stripping , and let him do the final prep and paint. My wife's car needed some paint work so while I was dropping off her car I thought he should look over mine. So this moring I put back on my wheels and took my car off the jack stands. The exhaust still needs to be fixed , but I though my tempoarcrossover repair would hold for my short trip to the body shop.Well you probily know how that worked out! The body shop is about 35 miles from my house.About 20 into my trip my tempoary fix failed and the exhaust was dragging . The only thing had in the car to tie it up was some nylon rope.I tied it away from the broken open crossover so it would not melt.I made it to the body shop and there uded some mechanics wiire to tie it up a little better for my return trip home.The body shop man was suprised that my Pinto was not in all that bad of shape for sitting so long.He gave me some pointers and We left for home a bit loud, and with the windowe down so we would not die from the fumes !Made it back fine .The engine ran great andthe Tranmission shifted fine .Only other thing I found that the car need in universal joints. There was a virbration at times. Feel good to get it back on the road again.
Put exhaust on it, get the u-joints fixed and drive it to Milwaukee May 3rd LOL!!! It will look GREAT sitting next to my rusty 78 coupe and red squire wagon.
ill give it some thought.As long as there is another rusty car there I just might lol.I plan to start working on some of the holes this week.My wife will be gone for a few days so I will have to find something to do .
Did you see the pictures of my red coupe ;D ;D Just make sure it has current registration and proof of insurance if you are going out on the track. even though I am helping out with the show, I have to do the same thing ;D if you let me know for sure by the 15th, I will cover your cost. The only catch is you have to be here by 7-9am. The Pintos take to the track at 10-10:30 with the rest of the Losers Car Club.
I might be coming to Madison for the Hot Rod Power Tour but we will see...
mark
:o Alright! Another Pinto out and about! :o
Your body guy is right, it's not in that bad of shape. I do like the stripes on that one! 8)
Chuck :afro:
ill let you know by the 15th If Ill have my pinto there.Right now I am thinking YES. I just want to get the exhaust done.I also want to finish welding up the floor .I started this afternoon.The drivers side is fine except some surface rust from the inside back.The passenger back is almost all gone.The from had a small hole , which i welded a patch in today.I found a new u-joint in the back of the car.Turns out it is the front one that I bought who knows when.All I need to do is pick up the rear one and that is good to go.
COOL!!! That might give me enough motovation to get a water pump in the white one and start getting the brakes fixed on it. That way I can have three over there. We just might have to have a mini PCCA gathering ;D
sound great! Count me in!Ill be there!I am sure I can get the work I need to drive it to Milwaukee in the next 4 weeks.I am an early riser , so I can get there early.Its just over an hr drive for me.My wife and I will be at the Brewers game Friday night May 1st.
I will have a spot saved for you and will get your registration in this week.
Shoot me an e-mail at 78pinto@wi.rr.com
Its been a long night.I spent a bout 5 hours tonight working on my car.I Maybe a new floorpan for the passenget side rear.Its tacked in on two sides.I still need to do some trimming , but it about there.I also dropped the exhaust and rear air shocks. Then I did some grinding on the rr wheel house and up over the axle.I AM BEAT!.There was a bit more rust that I thought there was , but Ill just take it one panel at a time.
The right rear wheel house and right side floor are done!Moving to the left side. I am working to get the underside done before May 3rd Milwaukee meet.
If you can drive it or trailer it to Milwaukee, your registration is turned in. You are parking with the Losers Car Club (the one I am in) so bring it as it is. I might be limping my white wagon over there if I can get the water pump in it before then. we are talking no brakes (to speak of) and no front floors ;D. But it's a V-6 squire wagon with a red plaid interior and wood grain everywhere ;D. I will be there with at least two cars and Cookyboy is bringing one.
This sounds like lots of fun. Some year I will be able to go there with my 77 sedan. Looking forward to pics.
No trailerqueen here! If its there it will be under its own power.I think I may have located a NOS crossover for it. If so I hope to have the exhaust in it next week.
Well I am one step closer.I picked up a NOS crossover pipe today.I searched on line for a new one.I sent several email's to different exhaust sites . I got a responce for an ad in Hemmin gs .The person did not have one in stock , but located one at a muffler shop close to me.It was an old time muffler shop.Just the kind of place to find what I needed.When I got home I thought I would try to remove the old , original ,pile.I sprayed the nuts with penitrent, and All FOUR CAME OUT with no problem!!Now all I have to do is put the new one back in , get an exhaust pipe made , and get a new muffler .
I think my next Pinto will be a 77/78 Cruising Wagon. Glad to see another one put back into commission and I wish you the best with your restore!
-beegle55
Got the crossover in.Tomorrow I get the Muffler and exhaust pipe! I ordered the muffler from Autozone , and had the pipe custom made by a customer of mine. New U-joints are in and it is insured.Ill be ready for Milwaukee in 2 weeks.The interior is gutted right now , so ill have to put in at least the driver's seat back in to drive it.
COOL!!!!! I just put a water pump in the white wagon so I am hoping to be able to at least drive it across the street (about 2 blocks) for the show. It might now have fllors or brakes but I am not going on the track anyway ;D I just have to figure out how I am getting three cars over there at 6:30 in the morning ;D
ONLY TWO WEEKS AWAY!!!
got the pipe made and installed! but the muffler has not arrived . :'( Oh well maybe it will be here Monday. Got the left side wheelhouse mostly done today. Got just a few small spots to do..So right now most all the holes on the bottom are sealed up!
I plan to get the rear seats and side panels back in Tomorrow . The floors are all done! The insulation on one of the rear side panels is gone . Mice thought it would be better inside the rear quarter LOL !Does any one know where to get replacement insulation like the original ? Its about about 1/2 thick with plastic on one side.
Still waiting for the muffler.The parts store said it was lost in shipment.Not sure If I buy that , but they have orderd two this time!One should be in soon !I will be at the Spring Jefferson car show Tomorrow and all weekend in Jefferson WI .78squire , ill be in Milwaukee next Sunday.I have a customer with a 78 trunk model with a V8 !I told him he should be there , but he is busy and his car need a lot of work , including a csrb. Oh well I thought we could get another Pinto there.
COOL!!! I am going out to Jefferson on Sunday (rain or shine) to hand out flyers. I had thought about going tomorrow but I have stuff to do around here before Brian gets here next Friday. if you want, I can give you a call on Sunday and maybe we can meet up somewhere. I will be there at 6-7am and if it's nice, will be there until 1 or so. (MAYBE)
I have floors (patches) in the white wagon and a friend of mine is putting a brake line on for me next week. Either way, all three of my ponies will be at Drive the Mile. The guys I sold the Bobcat to are also bringing something so we are up to six.
I will be selling at Jefferson all 3 days. I am in the yellow field just south of the grandstands.Right now it looks like rain Saturday night into Sunday. I got my entry for Milwaukee today.It says groups should meet outside and drive in together.Do you plan to do this ?
We are meeting for breakfast somewhere that morning. I will let you know as soon as I find out where and what time. Either place is not too far from the track and easy enough to find. If we meet it will be EARLY (about 6am) because we have to be at the track a little before 7 we (Losers) are volunteers.
I am probably going to park one of my cars just outside the gate before I go to breakefast so that I can get all three of them in there LOL!!!
I will try and find you on Sunday morning (Jefferson) as soon as I get there. If it rains, I am bring my Jeep. If the weather holds, then I might bring the red wagon. What kind of stuff do you sell so that I will have an idea of what to look for ;D
See ya Sunday
I sell Lawson Products .Look for the brown Bolt bins and assortments.I have a small popup camper and a silver 04 Explorer. If my wife stays Saturday night, 93 silver Mustang convertible parked some where near by.My space number is YB168.Its just south of the grandstands , on the same road that passes by the front of the grandstands.
talk abut a comedy of errors at the parts store!I order my muffler last Friday , to be in the following day, Saturday.It did not come in.I went to the store Monday no muffler, Wednesday , no muffler . I called the district manage for the store since the store could not tell me where my muffler was.The store manager called me Yesterday and said he odered another muffer , and that in fact it was at the store.I went to the store to pick it up tonight , and...... they gave it to another customer that had also orderd a different muffler .They called that other person and he says he will return it tomorrow.So Hopefully I may get it tomorrow!!
Perhaps it's time to try a different parts store???
Mike
Dave it was good to finally meet you today. The pictures of the restoration look pretty cool and I cant wait to see the car next week.
Now dry out, clean the mud off of everything and take a break for a day.
For the rest of you, he just spent the last two days at a swap meet that pretty much turned into a swamp meet. A lot of outside vendors got flooded out last night and left early today. It was pretty bad when I met up with him this morning but it was fun to talk Pintos with someone and meet another member of the group.
M
Mark
It was great to meet you . I am looking forward to next Sunday In Milwaukee.I am beat! Three days at the swap meet gets tireing.I am going out to the garage now and put in some speakers I bought there so If Dont get my muffler I can turn up the radio lol !Again nice to meet you .
see you Sunday
Dave
Got the rear shocks and muffler in !! I still need to get the short tail pipe and there is an exhaust leak somewhere on the drivers side, sounds some where near the exhaust manifold , cant pin point it yet but its not bad enough to keep me from going to Milwaukee this Sunday.I took it out for a little ride , and It ran great , but I may have to get new tires.I think they flat spotted while sitting the past 11 yrs LOL.There is a bit of a vibration .
A little more tweaking fo the show in Milwaukee.I polished the wheels and cleaned the glass, thats about all there is that shines right now in its current state lol .Tomorrow I am going to the shop that I had bend the exhaust pipe.It needsan adjustmet to get it fit just right.I took it for another little ride today.I am getting more confident in it every time I drive it.
IT MADE IT TO MILWAUKEE AND BACK PLUS DID A FEW LAPS ON THE TRACK!!!
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Thank you Mark for the invite.I am glad I came , even though my car needs to be painted.It pushed me to make the mechinal repairs I needed to make it road worthy.Driving home I rembered why I have kept my Pinto for 30 years .. Its just plain fun to drive!! I stoped by the bone yark to pick up some pieces thet I needed.My main thing to find was a radio.Mine has the am/fm stero .I did not find one in any pinto , but in a T-brid I did.it looks just like mine except it has 4 speaker output insead of two.I hooked it up to the two speakers and it soundes Great !I will add two speakers in the rear at some time.I did have to make a custom bracket and do a few other mods , but except for the knobs it looks as it did before.
tonight I put overload coils on the rear shocks. The rear end was saging a bit , but not its up where it should be.One more thing put of many ,,,done.
Not much going on as of late.too much other stuff to do this summer. Three graduations starting this weekend going into June.Then summer vscation and convertible tour.For now I will drive it as is untill I can get more time to work on it.Next thing to do is starting to strip the outside body panels , and when I start that I would be able to drive it.I will have a little fun with it for now,,,Driving it!I have gotten lots of smiles waves and thumbs up !
Summer is over Winter will soon be here.Almost time to get back to work on my project! There are still a few mechinal issues deal with {oil leak, trans shifting problem} , but I would fill the tank and drive it anywhere.So it time almost time to start the out side body work , after My last show with it at Solid Gold McDonalds On the 21st.First thing to do is left side quarter.Ill post pics as project progresses.
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Wife was gone for the evening...time to work on the Pinto!Started removing the left rear quarter.Its almost have it off.Just a few spot welds in the wheel opening.
it's a long winter... will you be ready for "drive the mile 2010" ?
Quote from: Cookieboystoys on November 04, 2009, 02:38:26 PM
it's a long winter... will you be ready for "drive the mile 2010" ?
If it happens. No word yet if the track will even be open. If not, road trip to Volo !!! ;D www.volocars.com (http://www.volocars.com)
Like you said its a long winter.Ill have it ready by spring.Worked on it a little today and got the quarter completly off.It will take some prep time to put to new one on.
what you accomplished this last spring and bringing it to the mile was amazing. I look forward to more get togethers this next summer and seeing the progress, even if it's not at the mile. I have my projects for the winter all lined up, may even get started soon, taking a bit of a "projects" break lately.
Thank you Brian.Just as I got movated to get it back on the road for the mile I am motivated to do the work this winter to complete it.It was a lot of fun going to shows,crusises, and just driving it around town.I want it to look like New!
Got a little bit of work in today,too many other hosehold duties .Here is a pic after I got to quarter off.There are a few spots on the inner fender that need new metal, but not too bad.Arouund the filler tube and behind the wheel.
an hour her 10 mins there andI am making progress!Got the quarter rough fitted.Looking GOOD!
Excellent work, keep it up! That's a big job....!
Chris
Ive got to keep it up , it needs to be ready for Carlisle 2011 !
looking good, carlisle is good motovation keep it up
2 1/2 straight hours work tonight! mainly grinding rust,drilling holes in the quarter for the spot welds.I have a new deadline to meet.January 2011 Word of Wheels car show in Milwaukee ! We ,78squirewagon and who ever wants to join us , will have a special display for the 40th birthday of the Pinto.
Finally started attaching the quarter! I finished the innerfender work and I am ready to weld.Yesterday I used a two part adhisive around the wheel well and gas filler area. it will be almost as strong as welding, and will be less likley to rust in the future. Those were the main troble spots on the original quarter.
gas filler
Dave
That is such a good idea to use panel adhesive. I hadn't
thought of that, but that is the way I'm going to do mine
also. No warpage either!!!
Bill
Started to weld tonight. I was down to my last seven spot welds and I RAN OF OF WIRE! Oh well I ordered more yesterday , ill get it tomorrow.It is looking good.I put the cruising panel in place , it fit perfectly! I am really getting excited now!
Its time to get on my back and get dirty.I want to get the gas tank back in.Before I do I needed to get rid of the rust above where the tank goes.Below are a couple of pics before i started to sand/wirebrush it off.I did not find and new holes.I stripped off the loose rust and paint then treated it with rust converter.Tomorrow Ill put on a coat of paint and the next day undercoat it.Ill have more pics Tomorrow.I am too beat right now to take them!
LOOKING GOOD!!!! Now when you are done, I have a certain white Squire wagon that needs the treatment ;D
The "treatment"hu.. I think ill need a little break when mine is done!Well the tank area is treated and painted.Now I have to warm up the garage again to undercoat it.Then get the gas tank ready to go back in.
Started grinding on the gas tank today.It did not leake before....now I have TWO HOLES LOL. They arent too bad and I think I can epoxy them.They are both on the top one next to the return line the other on the flat where the spare goes.The tank is not the original , I replaced it about 12 years ago, the last time it was on the road.I wont work on it any more this weekend,got a fun weekend with our convertible club.(convertibles optional it was minus 5 this morning ! )
In case you're interested, I'm restoring a 78 Cruising Wagon as well. I am going to see a graphics company Monday to have them recreate the original stripe package for my car. It is the same tri-stripe you have on your photo. Need a set? I'll know where to get them soon enough!
Yes I now plan to get new decals too.I was going to paint them on , they would sure last a long time.But it would just not look right.I have a local company that is going to give me an estimite for making them.Let me know how much you are being charged.Tell them you may have a second set sold if the price is right.The person here was going to use soild vinyl instead of dyed , so it would last a lot longer than the original.l
I did quickley look at the colors of vinyl , and found that violet lookerd really close to the correct color fir the 3rd stripe.I always thought it was purple.
I'll let you know as soon as I know.
thank you!
got the tank area undercoated and ready for the tank.Where the tank was leaking I used aproduct called Grapple ( I sell it )I put a layer on the leaking areas and any place that was pitted , to prevent it from leaking in the future.
I took the partial stripe kit I have and numerous photos and measurements folks have sent to me down to the graphics shop. They will do it all for under a thousand dollars. With one kit it is a bit more expensive, with multiples the price will come down. However, they also said they could produce the sets in a fashion that would allow them to be mailed to a graphics shop elsewhere for installation. I'm excited about it; I know I'm going to do it. So if you or anyone else is eventually interested, I can fix you up. Good luck on your project.
se how much it would be just for the kit.I woul install it or have my body guy do it.In the mean time ill check with a shop here to see what it would cost .
Sounds good to me.
Got the gas tank back in along with new fuel and vapor lines.Got it started, first time since fall, it sounds GREAT!
Cant post any pics it wont let me upload them says its full.
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It Finally quit snowing for two days! The roads are clear and I am driving the Pinto to a graphics place so they can take some pics of the car to get an estimite for recreating the stripes.Then I will take it to the body shop for some advice on getting it ready for paint.I have started to sand the paint off .
Got our in the nice bright sun (about 11 above this morn) for a little cruise today!Wen to the graphics place.Have not come up with the estimite for the stripes yet , but matched the colors as best we could from an unfaded area where the stripe wraped around the door. We came up with 3 colors, 3 mfgs.Avery Plum #9440-0 , Orical orange-red #047 , 3M chrome yellow. Has any one else done this , and do you have the colors you used.Or if painted the paint codes.
Wen I got home I thought id try to get the tach working.I got two spares.Itres them both , one WORKED! Tach again! Also ive started to sand the old paint off.
spent three hours grinding old paint off! Got the roof done , parts of the hood and front fenders.Tonorrow I will take final pics and measurments of the stripes , then remove them.Getting an estimite to have the paint work done. I showed the work I have been doing to a body man I know and he thought I should paint it myself.I would but not sure about the overspray in my atached garage even with an HVLP gun.
Yesterday I spent five hours, mostly griding paint off and removing the front bumper,front inner fenders, grille and headlight buckets.At the end I finished sanded a small section.It came out nice and smooth!! Today I will do my last trace of the stripes,on the front fenders. Then its off with the stripes!
Flash on your templates you make.. record where the seams in the vinyl go as well!! Put a pencil line through the template where the seam joints are and write on the template lap joint here !If you don`t have any seams in your stripe`s forget this part ... Cut capital letter T`s from bristle board and line the top of the T with the moldings and mark where the stripe`s original placement was with a pen on the T,,,,make a pile of them to go around the hood and back and one side,,,And number them 1 through 25 I put one T every foot on my car..Then when the stripe`s are applied they will know exactly where they went ....This stopped all the guessing looking at old photo`s as a reference P.S record where the first T was placed and keep a record of the measurements between each T this will help when you put the T`s back in place to line the stripes too......\ Some of your T`s will have long bottoms,,,where the stripe`s dip down low on the wagon `s body
I used tracing paper and laid it on the car and pencil traces the stripes.I also pencil shaded the body lines door and hood gaps to know where they go.I have just six sheets of paper.I traced all the lines together so I have all the size and spacing of the stripes.
More grinding and sanding . ill be gald when this step is over! It is getting closer to paint each day,
Paint is more that 3/4 off!Tonight I decided to remove the paint from the right rear quarter.I wanted to replace it , but now I am going to repair it.It has two holes in the bottom and some rust scabs.I ground and blasted the scabs, and they are not all the way through. Also the wheel lip is all intact .So I will weld in new metal in the holes and seal where the scabs were.
Got the doors off today.The bottom on one was worse that I thought.Nothing that a little new metal wont solve.It was a warm and sunny day so I backed it out to clean the garage a bit.My wife cam home and said it looked sad.Have to remove the paint from the jambs, then all the paint is off!Then finish sand and fill, panel by panel.
Today cut the bottom three inches of the outer door skin off on both doors. I was going to just glue a new piece on , but decided to do it right and get rid of any rust in the bottom lip.As you can see the inside of the door skin is mostly rust free except on the lip.The out side also had pretty bad scabs up to three inches up , but not comming from the inside.
LOOKING GREAT!!! Now hurry up so I can get the red coupe out to you to work on next ;D
more welding , grinding, filling sanding...Will take a break from it next week then get back at it.My goal is still to have all metal work done by the end of April , paint in May.
keep up the good work... looking forward to seeing the result ;D
Today I replaced the door hinge pins and bushings.I figure since the doors are off it a good time to do it.I used Lawson Products part numbers 29823 door hinge pins and 96096 door hinge bushings.They are listed for Ford trucks 1985 and up.First I groung off the peened ends of the old pins.I drove them out and then drove the old bushings out. The new bushings have a larger outside diameter that the old ones. You can see the old and new side by side . It took a 15/32 drill to make them fit.I figure it a good thing to have the bushings be a little bigger if your hinge metal is a little egged out.I then drove the new bushings in, they are nice and snug!Then drove the pins in.For a little added insurance I put one spot welded on each pin to ensure that wont back out.
the rest of the hinge pics
Now putting on the lower door skin panels.Rember I cut off the bottom three inches of the outerskin, and repaired the inner flange that was rusted.I bought universal door skin patch panels.Thet were 60 inches long x 5 inches wide , with the bottom edge already folded.On the existing skin i used a air flange tool to make a crimp in the panel so the two panels would fit flush and require miniumun body filler.Like the quarter wheel lip I used structrial adhiseve.I then put in a few spot welds at the crimped jount for good measure.Before folding the edge tight I filled the viod with seam sealer.Then a little fill and sanding and its done!
The wagon is coming along AMAZINGLY!
I can't wait until brownie has a freshly rebuilt engine in her and all nice and drivable as a daily driver so I can do this to my 78!
Fantastic work and progress. Congrats on a fine job, keep it up! I love the seeing major projects come together!
Chris
Got an estimite for doing the stripes.Betweeen 700 and 800 to have the stripes made and put on.I have a little while to decide.It would save me a lot of time masking and painting each color.
got the doors done today!Now just waiting for the sheetmetal from Fred (not here yet ,coming pony express?lol) then put that in and do final prep for primer!
Got the last piece of sheetmetal today from Fred Morgan , thanks Fred.Its a rr quarter section.I made one , but was not entirely happy how it came out. I will cut that one one and fit this southwest sheetmetal in. This will be much better!
Ok spent a couple of hours tonight working on the rr quarter.First I cut off the patch I did a few weeks ago.Then I removed the inner fender and extra metal from the panel I got from Fred.I did a first fit and already feel much better!The patch I did was just not quite right.Afew more hours of grinding fitting , and welding and it will be done!
Got the panel part way on tonight.On the top I used the punch/flange tool to make a recessed edge for the new metal.I decided to glue the top like I did the door edge to lessen warpage.Tonight I will let the adhiseve cure and tomorrow weld the rest of the panel in.
Finished spot welding the panel in. Filled in the seames and then some sanding.I drenched the inside with undercoating till it ran out the drain hole and small cracks so it in all sealed up.
Got my primer and paint,ordered a new paint gun set, and a new carpet.Hope to be painting within a few weeks!
Looking good man. Was nice to meet you when you were here.
It was nice to meet you too.
Helped a friend last night get a spray booth out of storage he bought five years ago. I will help him put it up , and I can use it to paint my car in. Hopefully it will be put up by next week.
Let the painting begin! I started the painting process tonight.I etch and fill primed the side panels , hood and hatch.Tomorrow I will do the doors and the rest of the car.I am doing the priming now in my garage and will do the color in the spray booth when its done.
Pics
Now that I have wiped the drool off.....
...WOW....
....I can't WAIT to be where you are in your process. You are gonna have one awesome vehicle. Nice, nice work. A sealing primer, I assume?
Chris
Two part ,an Etch primer , then a filler primer.Yea I am getting excited too!!
Four stright hours of work and the body and doors are primed! Now I have to wait three hours to sand the jams so I can paint them and mount the doors , hood , hatch, and panels.
Guess what he gets to paint next ;D Hmm, I have a red/rusty coupe that I want to rat rod and since somebody close to me can paint, well ;D ;D
GREAT JOB SO FAR!!! All Ford show is the middle of July so you have a couple of months yet
We will see Mark.Ill need a break after this.Painted the jams , looks really nice and shiney with the clear !
Did you spray your primer in the garage? HVLP? What kind of primer?
How did you do your jambs? What kind of paint? With HVLP or spray cans?
Curious since I'll get to this point in a few months myself.
Chris
I sprayed the primer and jambs in my garage.I got the supplies at NAPA The product line is ACME Finish 1 . Ive never painted a car with a spray gun before. I just studied it and Ive been in and around the auto repair business for over 30 years.I bought a inexpensive spray gun lit on ebay. $72 for the set of three guns. they seem to work very well, and yes they are all HVLP guns.The etch/sealer primer is the first one to put on. Its a thick primer , i had a couple times where it came out of the gun blotchy, I think because it was a bit cool here this weekend. The filler primer is much thinner . There is very little overspray with the primers.The base /clear is a different story.I used the touch-up gun and thought I would not have much over spray , but after a bit I had quite a cloud !I plan to paint the rest in a spray booth.
Quote from: flash041 on May 08, 2010, 09:52:02 PM
I sprayed the primer and jambs in my garage.I got the supplies at NAPA The product line is ACME Finish 1 . Ive never painted a car with a spray gun before. I just studied it and Ive been in and around the auto repair business for over 30 years.I bought a inexpensive spray gun lit on ebay. $72 for the set of three guns. they seem to work very well, and yes they are all HVLP guns.The etch/sealer primer is the first one to put on. Its a thick primer , i had a couple times where it came out of the gun blotchy, I think because it was a bit cool here this weekend. The filler primer is much thinner . There is very little overspray with the primers.The base /clear is a different story.I used the touch-up gun and thought I would not have much over spray , but after a bit I had quite a cloud !I plan to paint the rest in a spray booth.
If you've never painted before, you'll be amazed at what a difference the spray booth and its down-draft makes. Good luck!
Dwayne :smile:
Quote from: flash041 on May 08, 2010, 08:42:43 PM
We will see Mark.Ill need a break after this.Painted the jams , looks really nice and shiney with the clear !
I was goofing around ;D We are going to paint the coupe in my drive way with grill (as in BBQ) paint ;D Say it with Krylon baby :lol:
Worked last night putting up a spray booth at a friend's , who is letting me use the booth.It should be done by next week. My car will be the first car sprayed in it! So I am looking at the end of next week at the earliest,the week after at the latest.
Got the side panels on and second coat of primer ! Ill do some more wet sanding this weekend and another coat of primer.
It is simply AMAZING!!!! the progress you have made with this Pinto...
I am really looking forward to seeing it finished!
Whe is your next trip down here ? You are past due! I plan to have the paint on it some time next week or the week after. l am still undecided on the multicolor stripes , paint or decal. Either way ill have the silver , black , and clear done .
Use paint to stripe it. Mask each section individually & use the same number of coats for each color to keep the surface level & then clear it. If you do it right you will have a level surface under the clear & once its buffed you will never think of doing it any other way.
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/DSCF0749.jpg)
Thats a shot of this tecnique used on my '07 Stang
Quote from: flash041 on May 15, 2010, 03:21:00 PM
Whe is your next trip down here ? You are past due!
I know... I know... I need to hang out w/my "loser" friends...
...but "the big move" has me "busy" all the time trying to get organized in the new place. This year I will only be able to "road trip" on the holiday/long weekends and this 1st one it is unlikely I will be able to get away >:(
I hope soon... just don't hold your breath as it could be awhile :'(
When ever you can make it. Got really busy sanding the second layer of filler primer today. After that I spot primer the spot i spot puttyed.The I had a " critical eye" look at it ( my wife) to point out the flaws.Then more spot putty. Looking good! Just about ready for final sanding before paint!
Quote from: flash041 on May 16, 2010, 05:03:58 PM
When ever you can make it.
I hope soon, maybe show off the new toy (you'll like it) check my facebook (not another one :o )
a set back tonight.I got two part seam sealer for the drivers side drip rail.It came out of the tube really hard, and lumpy.I tried to smooth it out but it would not.So after it dried a bit i started to grind it out, and I got black gooey specks all over the car! I cleaned up the mess and proceded to chisel it out of the chanel.Re sanded the area , and will try again later this week.On a good note I orderd my new tires! got Cooper Cobra's 205 60 13 .They are discontinued but acan still get them.
A better day today! Made a new sheetmetal support piece for the rear bumper rubber filler.The old one was about gone from rust. Also got new insert molding for the bubble windows.
I have front and rear sheet metal supports for the 77/78 rubber rock guards if you want original Ford parts. They might be spendy to ship though, due to their length.
Good progress, that new chrome strip is going to look great against the new paint! :D
thank you dave , but the part i made fits perfectly
great progress.
the full sized gun makes way less over spray and fog no matter what you are spraying. Noticed the same thing when i was doing the small parts on mine with a touch up gun. had a massive fog in all 3 bays even with the fans on and the doors open for some airflow. When we pounded on the rest of the body with the big gun it was far less hazy.
Nice score on the tires too. coopers are great. we used to run em back in our teens. cheap, sharp lookin w nice white letters. cool you found some.
OhSix'
Thank you Oh . I am on track to do the base silver , black , clear next week!!Got a different adhisive for the drip edge.I used the same stuff I used for the quarter.My first though was to use that, but I got impatent and tried the other stuff and made a mess. Just goes to show you go with your instinct and take your time!I plan to do the headlight buckets and bumper fillers with the tough up gun mabe tomorrow to have them done.
I got the tires today .They look good.I like the wider tires.I had 70 series before.
almost ready! Redoing the LH drip rail.got it primed and spot puttied today.Its the last area to do.
Drip rail done! Now i am ready for paint.Ill do the final light sand with 600 just before I paint it some time next week.
Barring anything unforseen Ill be painting Friday! By then it will be less humid and in the mid 70's.
Man I can't wait to see this already!
Got the base silver on !! now waiting a few hours and will do the black, then clear !
Got the black done! ran out of time for the clear.Worked 15 hours straight yesterday.The painting takes only minutes its prep , masking , and taping that takes Hours! Will get back at it this morning , or mabe tomorrow.Ill post Pics as soon as I can.
Four Pics.Primer,silver,black.Today i hope to shoot the clear.
Nice handsome '70s colors. 8)
As opposed to all those kitschy '70s colors..... :P
today the clear.tomorrow more SANDING and buffing.
Looking good! :surprised:
Dwayne :smile:
The last 2 days I wet sanded , cut and buffed .I got it pretty good but buffed through the clear in one spot.After that I decided to work on some other things.I put on the , door handles, luggage rack, radio antenna, cb antenna, hatch lock, hatch rubber , hatch lift knob , side marker trim and lights, hatch window, and bubble windows.
man that looks great.
Impressive! I bet you are thrilled to have it taking shape back to what it was in it's glory days! :D
Dude, Nice.
Thank you all! I am feeling much better that it is getting close to the end.I cant wait till I take it out complete to the local car shows and cruise nights.
Cant wait to see it done.
one piece at a time. I put the bubble window insert that I bought , that fit a 78 Bronco. It fit geat and looks Great!
got the door rubbers on and dash cap.
WOW, really, really nice. Man, I have a long way to go - your car/effort is inspiring.
Chris
Sanded teh anodize off the rear bumper and polished then put it back on.Also the Pinto emblem!
What did you use to sand the bumper down with? Electric sander or by hand? I did my front and half the rear bumper by hand. Got worn out doing it and stopped. Rear bumper looks kind of funny half done...
I started the same way by hand and got wore out as well! I then used a 1/3 sheet vibrating sander, worked much better.I started with 80 grit then went to 600 then 1200.then I sprayed the whole bumper with oven cleaner.the spots that I missed stayed silver the rest turned black. I then resanded it and then polished it with a buffer and compound, then mag wheel polish.
I really need to get an orbital buffer....lol
Front bumper , lights, spoiler on, and the lights all work!
Next the interior. Put in a new molded carpet, It fit perfectly! I started at the rear and worked forward.The carpet had marks on the back where to cut for the e brake shifter and consule.I fit it to the back feet area and rolled it forward. Also for now I put on a pair of slipon seat covers.
I got the stripes to do and a few more odds and ends and it will be done!
David
Where did you get your carpet? Most of the carpet I
see is two pieces. yours looks to be all one piece. That
is what I'm looking for. By the way, your car looks killer.
I can't believe you got all that done in such a short period
of time. Now thats what I call dedication. I can't wait to
see it with the stripes.
Bill
thanks Bill. Dedication or insanity take you pick! I got my carpet on ebay from ardvark motors. It is one piece except for in between the rear seats.Like I said it fit perfectly and was easy to install.
Same carpet get I have in my 78, fits great! Yours looks SWEEET! :D
Taking the car in this coming Wednesday to have the stripes done! Ill post the pics when it is done.The person doing it says he would make kits for any one else doing a restoration.
Dropped the car off this afternoon!
Whats the status of the stripes? I am very curious to know how they turned out. Then I will know if I buy a kit from your guy or paint my own on.
here they are.
That looks Amazing man, Absolutely wonderful work. might have to hire you to do my car lol its really beautiful man thanks for sharing the whole process with the group
Thank you! Its been a fun project and I have enjoyed sharing it with the group.
another pic
Now all that is left is to enjoy it and shower it with TLC! :D
Looks like it may have just rolled out of the showroom! Totally awesome! I hope you are planning to bring this jewel to Carlisle next year so we can see it in person!
Dwayne :smile:
Can you get me the contact info for the shop that did the stripes so I can contact him concerning a stripe kit?
ill stop by the shop later this week and let you know.