Ok, I may be getting a 77 Red Sedan. Has black interior. The seats are vinyl and also tore up, I think the padding is good on them though. As far as body wise, I only noticed a dented pass. fender. I can't really say to much more for the fact that we kinda just gave it a glance. Hubby is going to call the owner of the business we found it at, and talk to him about getting it. We won't be able to actually get it till after Monday the 16th though.
Depending on how hubby does it, this will most likely be a parting out car! We plan on seeing if the 2.3 motor and tranny are any good and if so I plan on putting them in one of my other Pintos!! I really like the automatics!!! ;D Other then that, we will be parting the rest.
I figured I would let you all know, even though we don't have it yet, so we can start seeing what everyone wants off of it!! ;D
I will take pics of it once we can go pick it up!!
Kim
77? alright. I used to have a red 75 sedan with a black interior, factory ac, 4 speed. does it have the deluxe interior or convenience lighting group? I'm looking for a lit ashtray and the dual vents for the center of the dash above the radio that a/c cars had. And I'm still looking for the vinyl top trim. Dave1987 is looking for a left taillight lens. Hope you get it!
Chuck
Quote from: discolives78 on February 12, 2009, 05:10:04 PM
77? alright. I used to have a red 75 sedan with a black interior, factory ac, 4 speed. does it have the deluxe interior or convenience lighting group? I'm looking for a lit ashtray and the dual vents for the center of the dash above the radio that a/c cars had. And I'm still looking for the vinyl top trim. Dave1987 is looking for a left taillight lens. Hope you get it!
Chuck
I believe it is a non deluxe. It has the round horn button, but it has a chrome fancy thing in it instead of a horse! I can't really say for sure if it has A/C. I think it did, but I didn't look at the dash that close. For some reason I am thinking that the controls for the heater almost looked the same as mine but in plastic. The engine is what I thought had the A/C unit in it, but then again, it could have been smog pump or power steering pump that I saw. I did notice that there was a big black box like thing on the passenger fender. Don't know what that was, but was thinking maybe it had something to do with a/c?? To be honest, when I was looking at the motor, I looked to see if it was a 2.3 then I looked to see what blupinto was in for when doing a timing belt replacement!!!! LOL I noticed it had no room and alot more pumps and such on it! LOL Also I don't think it had a vinyl top!
I hope I get it too.
If you get it and decide to part it out, and it has healthy tail light lenses, I got dibs on 'em! ;)
Big black box on the passender side fender? I believe what you are talking about would be the air duct. It supplies the fresh air intake for the carb, as it has a duct from the air cleaner cover which connects to the "box" on the fender.
Quote from: dave1987 on February 12, 2009, 05:42:29 PM
If you get it and decide to part it out, and it has healthy tail light lenses, I got dibs on 'em! ;)
Big black box on the passender side fender? I believe what you are talking about would be the air duct. It supplies the fresh air intake for the carb, as it has a duct from the air cleaner cover which connects to the "box" on the fender.
Ok, you get the tail lights if they are still good. I didn't get a good look at them (do you see a pattern here? LOL) as they had the car backed into a chain link fence. Hopefully "they" didn't break them because of it!
I forgot to ask you Chuck, what is the "convenience lighting group?
I have been wanting this convenience lighting group as well. Lighting for the ash tray and glove box, I think it might have a map light too.
EDIT: Going through my brochure...
intermittent wipers
cigar lighter
visor vanity mirror
day/night rearview mirror
combination dome/map reading lamp
lights in the lockable glove box, ash tray, under the hood, in the trunk or cargo area
courtesy light switch on passenger door (on liftgate of runabout)
"headlights on" warning buzzer
pivoting quarter windows with bright frames
Quote from: dave1987 on February 12, 2009, 05:53:52 PM
I have been wanting this convenience lighting group as well. Lighting for the ash tray and glove box, I think it might have a map light too.
OHhh, ok! I get it now! Thanks. Couldn't tell you guy's if it had it or not! Boy, can't wait till Monday!! LOL I'm so wanting to know if it has these things!! If it doesn't I will sell you my version of convenience lighting!!!! It's called a flashlight!!!!! (http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/myhrdly/sticking-out-tongue2.gif)(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/myhrdly/laughing4-giggles.gif)
lol! That's what I've pretty much got when I'm not sitting in the driver's seat. ;)
I would really love to have under the hood and trunk lighting, but I have yet to run across a Pinto with any of these features aside from the passenger side door switch.
I've been adding bits of luxury to my Pinto since I got it. I have a Fairmont glove box light, a glove box lock (need to take to locksmith to match my trunk key) cigar lighter, ashtray with chrome knob, turn signal lever with chrome knob, I have the factory sport remote mirrors from an 80 wagon (they need to be painted and the right glass needs replaced) but that's not what's on the car, deluxe bumper group (rub strips and guards) and "wood" shift knob and e-brake knob, colored dome light bezel, a/c style vents, pinstripes (blue),and day/night mirror. I've also toyed with the idea of adding stuff from other ford/gm cars like under dash lights (for the floor) and under hood/trunk lights. My car was a base model, one step up from the Pony, it was a radio delete, no a/c, no power options car. It came with chrome (plastic) raingutter trim and lower window trim, a cubby where the radio goes, vinyl interior with black belts, dome light, and e-brake boot. It had no other trim or adornments, just a "Plain Jane" Pinto.
Chuck, I think that's why I have enjoyed watching your car evolve so much, because our cars are so much alike.
Mine was a PONY model, plastic rain gutter trim was the only "speciality" exterior trim on the car aside from front and rear molding and had an AM radio in it (still have the radio in storage). I have since replaced it with the metal rain gutter trim. Like you, I have added the chrome turn signal handle, chrome handle ash tray, cigar lighter, lockable glove box knob (also need to take to lock smith, but will be $35 to do), A/C vents, sport mirrors, a ralley steering wheel, center console, and modified Mustang II/Pinto shifter.
Our cars are becoming quite similar, Chuck! :D
Back on topic....
If you get this car, would you possibly be able to see if the rubber plugs around the ignition control module are still there? I'm still looking for one specific one, between the box and the firewall.
Quote from: dave1987 on February 12, 2009, 06:56:29 PM
Chuck, I think that's why I have enjoyed watching your car evolve so much, because our cars are so much alike.
Mine was a PONY model, plastic rain gutter trim was the only "speciality" exterior trim on the car aside from front and rear molding and had an AM radio in it (still have the radio in storage). I have since replaced it with the metal rain gutter trim. Like you, I have added the chrome turn signal handle, chrome handle ash tray, cigar lighter, lockable glove box knob (also need to take to lock smith, but will be $35 to do), A/C vents, sport mirrors, a ralley steering wheel, center console, and modified Mustang II/Pinto shifter.
Our cars are becoming quite similar, Chuck! :D
Back on topic....
If you get this car, would you possibly be able to see if the rubber plugs around the ignition control module are still there? I'm still looking for one specific one, between the box and the firewall.
Ok, what is this "Pony" and all? How do you find out what your car was and what are all the names???
Back on topic, LOL Yes, I'll check that!! ;D
Usually Ford put a decal on the fender of 'special' models like the Pony, MPG, ESS, and others, but not always. A wagon with windows and no wood is just a wagon, but you could get Pony and MPG wagons too. If it had wood, it's a Squire. If it had portholes, it was a Cruising Wagon. There were panel van versions of the wagon without portholes and no back seats. I know it was available in 78, I've seen one, but the 74 on e-bay is currently unconfirmed as factory original. A panel van shouldn't have a back seat. The ESS was a 79 special model, like a hatchback version of the cruising wagon, but not quite a rallye. The Rallye package changed a bit over the years. The Pony replaced the MPG sometime around 1977 as the "no frills" entry level econo-car, and had different interior fabric options and not many options were available at this level. The MPG was, as you could have guessed, directed at fuel mileage, it offered a different gear ratio and weight savings throughout the car. There was a special "Stallion" model in 1976, two tone black and silver, pimped out. And there was a "Sprint" version in 1972, white with blue hoodstripes and rocker panels and fancy red/white/blue interior. Ways I've researched different models:
Shop e-bay for literature and store inventory
Read Peterson's Complete book of Pinto (1975)
Search www.flickr.com and other internet photo sites like photobucket and jalopnik and wikpedia, etc. for "ford pinto"
Collect sales brochures and toys
Search www.youtube.com for "ford pinto"
I had no clue what-so-ever what my Pinto was until my mom gave me some original pictures of the car that her mom took when they picked it up at the dealership back in 78. It isn't that noticeable at first, but to the trained eye, there is a PONY decal on the fender just below the body line. I will have those pictures scanned and posted in my project log eventually, the scanner is just a pain to use.
Quote from: dave1987 on February 12, 2009, 07:46:34 PM
I had no clue what-so-ever what my Pinto was until my mom gave me some original pictures of the car that her mom took when they picked it up at the dealership back in 78. It isn't that noticeable at first, but to the trained eye, there is a PONY decal on the fender just below the body line. I will have those pictures scanned and posted in my project log eventually, the scanner is just a pain to use.
Awesome!!! You have your GrandParents car??? That is so cool!!! I would love to find my Mom and Dads Pinto!! My Dad teases me that the way I am finding Pintos I just may find it!! LOL
Try taking a macro picture of the picture!! Sometimes they don't come out to bad!!!!
Kim
Ok, Hubby made a deal with the business, the car is basically ours. We do have to part it out because it is clearing on a junk slip! We are going to go get it on his lunch hour on Monday!!!!
Awesome! Be sure to take pictures! :D
I wish I would have taken lots of pictures of the cars I parted out for my own car, but i didn't think of it until recently.
At least then those cars wouldn't be forgotten, and they would have some sort of "memorial" to be remembered by. Look at me, talking about Pintos like they are people. I've gone way over the top haven't I? lol
Actually my grandparents bought the car for my mom as a graduation present in 1978, when she graduated from Boise State University that summer. The car remained in her MAIDEN name until last July, where she signed it over to me as a gift, and I am the the second owner of the car. Still, being the second owner of the car, it is still in the biological family that it started in. That is the number one reason why I will never, ever, sell my Pinto. I know almost every major event that has happened to the car, documentation to about 90% of all the work done to it, and I even have dozens of little stories about the car that would otherwise never have been passed on.
Quote from: pintogirl on February 12, 2009, 09:02:53 PM
Awesome!!! You have your GrandParents car??? That is so cool!!! I would love to find my Mom and Dads Pinto!! My Dad teases me that the way I am finding Pintos I just may find it!! LOL
Try taking a macro picture of the picture!! Sometimes they don't come out to bad!!!!
Kim
Kim,
I have my fathers Bobcat =) Sold it too me 3 years ago now.
Ok, I got her!!!! Well, kind of! LOL We went and picked her up and it was pouring down rain. I took the below photos and then ran back into the tow truck, to let hubby finish hooking her up!! LOL Hubby is supposed to be calling me to let me know if she had a/c or not! So far I havn't heard from him, but hopefully I'll know by tonight. I'll try to get interior shots another day. For now here is the outside!!
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/myhrdly/Pinto/IMG_0197.jpg)
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/myhrdly/Pinto/IMG_0198.jpg)
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/myhrdly/Pinto/IMG_0199.jpg)
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/myhrdly/Pinto/IMG_0200.jpg)
She looks to be in good body condition, only thing I can see is a dent in the rear quater panel, which we will not save anyway, and a dent on the top of the passenger fender. So we will most likely take that fender off too, since it probably could be fixed, if not just popped out!
Not sure when we will start parting her out yet. Weather will play a big part in that!! LOL
Oh, so far the only thing I plan on keeping is the gas cap and the horn button!! ;D
Kim
Looks like a pretty decent car. Please post some pics of the interior when you get a chance.
It looks to be in great straight shape! If it has a good instrument cluster, there are a few wanted ads in the classifieds that people are looking for one.
Quote from: dave1987 on February 17, 2009, 08:21:27 PM
It looks to be in great straight shape! If it has a good instrument cluster, there are a few wanted ads in the classifieds that people are looking for one.
I think it is in decent shape, but don't remember if it has a tach or not. I noticed some people want a tach!! I will check the wanted section once I know what I have!!! ;D
As a sedan, it probably doesn't have a tachometer in it. I believe the only Pintos with that type cluster were the Cruising Wagons, I may be wrong though.
I was thinking of putting one in my car, but I decided I didn't like the flat appearance of the gauge cluster on it.
That one's kinda cool! I would be interested in the chrome/red trim if the chrome isn't cracked too bad or peeling (I'm pretty sure they're just held on with adhesive) and I would also like the chrome trim from the door and quarter window frames if you can get them off (I should talk to Fred Morgan for advice first).
I'm with Dave, I like the 'dished' gauge pod on the base cluster. I've seen runabouts with the tach too, one orange v-6 76 many years ago (might've been a bobcat, can't remember). My 78 brochure shows a green runabout deluxe interior with rallye wheel, tach, and plaid seats (the wide low-back ones).
When it rains, it pours! When it stops raining, it's time to put out more buckets!
Chuck
I believe the tach was an option for the later years. My 79 Bobcat hatchback came with the ralley gauges, and sport steering wheel. It too was a deluxe interior car with the low buckets but I do not think that was part of the tach package.
Quote from: dave1987 on February 12, 2009, 05:42:29 PM
If you get it and decide to part it out, and it has healthy tail light lenses, I got dibs on 'em! ;)
Big black box on the passender side fender? I believe what you are talking about would be the air duct. It supplies the fresh air intake for the carb, as it has a duct from the air cleaner cover which connects to the "box" on the fender.
Are you still interested in the lenses? If so, all you want is the lense itself, or do you want the whole housing? (Not sure how they came off the car yet, havn't looked at it.)
Hubby is talking about brining it home soon so we can start parting it out!!
Judging by the pictures, they appear to be pretty straight. Mine have some crinkle damage and deep scratches from when my brother had the car in autobody class.
I'm still very interested, and would be thrilled to get a decent set of lenses and housings!
Quote from: dave1987 on March 08, 2009, 10:10:21 PM
Judging by the pictures, they appear to be pretty straight. Mine have some crinkle damage and deep scratches from when my brother had the car in autobody class.
I'm still very interested, and would be thrilled to get a decent set of lenses and housings!
Ok, let me see if I can get hubby to either bring the car home tomorrow or atleast take the lenses off. That way I can take better pics of them for you!!
LOL! How did I miss this thread!?!
You're gonna have to name your property Kim And Hubby's House Of Pintos, or Kim And Hubby's Pinto Heaven, or Kim And Hubby's Pinto Paradise (we cater to trunk models! lol!) or Kim And Hubby's Pinto Corral, or ....lol.
How do those armrests look? lol.
P.S. Your red armrests proudly rode with me on Baby's Official Maiden Voyage.
Blupinto,
You still got that 77, right? I have come in to a problem on my 78. I believe they're called headlight doors,(rubber covers around headlights ???), mine are torn and coming apart. Could you hold on to the ones on your 77, till I get some more money up, if you'll sale them, that is. :angel:
Quote from: Carolina Boy on March 09, 2009, 08:35:52 AM
Blupinto,
You still got that 77, right? I have come in to a problem on my 78. I believe they're called headlight doors,(rubber covers around headlights ???), mine are torn and coming apart. Could you hold on to the ones on your 77, till I get some more money up, if you'll sale them, that is. :angel:
Ok, I hate to say it, but I don't know what you are talking about!! LOL I did take a pic of the front headlight area. Do you see what you are looking for, or is it behind the bezel???
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/myhrdly/Pinto/IMG_6493.jpg)
Dave, here is a closer pic of the taillight lenses, still on the car. They don't look bad, but I want to see if they are stained from holding water!
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/myhrdly/Pinto/IMG_6491.jpg)
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/myhrdly/Pinto/IMG_6490.jpg)
Quote from: discolives78 on February 17, 2009, 08:58:59 PM
That one's kinda cool! I would be interested in the chrome/red trim if the chrome isn't cracked too bad or peeling (I'm pretty sure they're just held on with adhesive) and I would also like the chrome trim from the door and quarter window frames if you can get them off (I should talk to Fred Morgan for advice first).
I'm with Dave, I like the 'dished' gauge pod on the base cluster. I've seen runabouts with the tach too, one orange v-6 76 many years ago (might've been a bobcat, can't remember). My 78 brochure shows a green runabout deluxe interior with rallye wheel, tach, and plaid seats (the wide low-back ones).
When it rains, it pours! When it stops raining, it's time to put out more buckets!
Chuck
Chuck, I only got one shot of the the red trim. It was getting dark by the time hubby got the car home. I couldn't really tell you how it all looks yet. I will check it out more tomorrow!!
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/myhrdly/Pinto/IMG_6492.jpg)
On the chrome trim from the door, are you talking about the lower chrome on the door. Basically the peice that your arm would rest on if the window was down? If so, I may hold on to those for now, because my 72 has the same trim and I may need it if I mess mine up taking it off to paint the car!!! I will let you know for sure if I will be holding on to it, pending on how easy or hard it is to take it off!! LOL
CarolinaBoy, I think you mixed us up! lol. I never had a '77 or '78. If Mom let me get that beautiful blue '77 in '89...
Anyway, when you say "door", do you mean the "frame" around the headlight? On the early girls, the "frame" or bezel was 6-sided, 77-78 were roundish-squarish, and '79-80 were square lights and bezels. Or have I confused everyone? lol.
Actually, I was talking about the window frame next to and above the windows. My car doesn't have trim there, it's painted white. I already have the lower window trim (I had to get one for the passenger side with the indent for the sport mirrors). I'm in no big hurry right now, so just let me know. Thanks for thinking about me, though! :D
Chuck
Those lenses look better than my driver's side one. Mine has a crack in it and a 1" piece missing along the bottom of the brake light!
The frames look better than mine too, I don't spot any damage from here, at least nothing a little polishing couldn't get out.
I wouldn't worry about the seals for them, I made new seals for mine with some insulating foam my dad had lying around. I just need the lenses and bezels/frames/trim/whatever you want to call them. lol
This has been my day for senior moments, Blupinto :angel:, Pintogirl :angel:, I'm old, :drunk: coming down with that ailment where you can't remember, don't remember the name. :lol:
I will try again, Pintogirl, yes the first picture shows what I need. The rubber cover around the headlight and turn signals. It attaches to the fender. So it is a bezel? I would like them if they are available.
I wouldn't blame it on old age quite yet Carolina Boy! I'm sure you've got a lot of years still in you! :D
I even get the two confused, and still don't know which one really has the Green Machine. lol
Carolina Boy,
Not to worry, It's just an affliction that comes with life experience.. It can be called many things, I just call it "Wizenhiemers". If you drink enough, it evolves into other things ??? Just remember , everything in Moderation!
Pintosopher
LOL, You guy's are too funny!!! ;D
I am the one with the Green Machine!! Hey, at least you remembered it's name!! LOL I also have the ghost!!!
Anywaysssss, lol, I will be PM'ing you guy's some pics of what you asked for.
Just want to let you guy's know that I havn't forgot about you!! Trying to get the Ghost ready for Knotts has kinda slowed me down on pulling parts!!
I only need to pull the fender and quarter panel trim peices for you Chuck.
Dave, I only need to pull the bezels and lenses away from the complete unit! LOL Kinda funny, I have the complete units in a box, just need to pull them back out to do the disection!! LOL
I will get to it soon. I"m hoping to have the Ghost ready by next week!!! THen I can focus on the part pulling again!!
It's all good, I'm not in any hurry! :)
Likewise...saving nickels and dimes... :)
Chuck :afro:
Any parts left that I might be able to use on my 78 coupe? I am mainly looking for the drives side rear wheel well molding. I could also use the passenger side window crank handle, a rear floor mat and a set of ralley trim rings and center caps ;D
Quote from: 78squirewagon on March 28, 2009, 06:51:55 AM
Any parts left that I might be able to use on my 78 coupe? I am mainly looking for the drives side rear wheel well molding. I could also use the passenger side window crank handle, a rear floor mat and a set of ralley trim rings and center caps ;D
It has it's wheel well molding still, but I think it has dings in it!! I don't remember if it has its cranks, I will try to check tomorrow!! I don't beleive it has stock floor mats, I will have to check on that too. I know for sure it has stock rims with the the full style hub caps.
I will try to take some pics of the wheel well molding to see if it is what you want tomorrow!!
I dont care if they are dinged up and rusty. It's for my 150.oo coupe and the drivers rear is missing. The other ones are hanging on LOL!! Anything will be better than nothing ;D
Kim, got a question about a couple parts... First, is the license place light there? If so what is the condition of it & the bracket that mounts it to the underside of the bumper? Mine on my 77 are long since missing. Oh, and what kind of condition is the battery tray in? Just a thought on it lol
Quote from: r4pinto on March 29, 2009, 09:38:31 PM
Kim, got a question about a couple parts... First, is the license place light there? If so what is the condition of it & the bracket that mounts it to the underside of the bumper? Mine on my 77 are long since missing. Oh, and what kind of condition is the battery tray in? Just a thought on it lol
I was just re reading this thread to see who all wanted what, and I could have swore I answered you questions, but I don't see my reply! Or maybe I PM'd you! LOL So here is the answer, forgive me if I already answered! LOL
The battery tray is history, and I sold the bumper, so I believe the light is gone with it!
Hey r4pinto, I got a complete assmbly. Make an offer. sharpe53@hotmail.com
I'm offering because pintogirl hasn't got one and I want to help.
Carolina Boy, I sent ya and email.
Thanks ;D