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1972 1.6 Runabout gas tank
« on: February 07, 2019, 05:41:18 PM »
Hello everyone!
Just became a member of the Pinto community 3 hours ago when I drove it back to my friend's house. I immediately noticed that the gas tank has electricians tape on it and is leaking heavily underneath. Is there a place where I can find a replacement for it, or would I need to get some sheet metal and get it welded back together?

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Re: 1972 1.6 Runabout gas tank
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2019, 07:34:39 PM »
NO!!! DON'T WELD ON A GAS TANK!!! Even static electricity from hair and clothes can ignite gasoline.  The only (and still very risky) way I've heard of tanks being welded is to fill them mostly with water and then add dry ice. The dry ice gives off carbon dioxide and supposedly prevents fuel vapors from igniting. I in no way advise this. Do everything at your own risk and liability.

First check where the leak is actually coming from. Often it can "look" like it is coming from one area but it might be coming from elsewhere.  Let the tank dry then have someone shake the car while you observe with a flashlight from the underside. Sometimes it is the fuel sender, a fuel line etc. that can the the real source of the leak.

If the tank is bad and has a hole there are options. Ideally replace the tank, it is 47 years old. There are putty's that can fix a hole and solutions that you slosh in the tank (once removed) that are intended to fill voids. But they should be considered temporary fixes.

Again, be careful.  I've had gas run in my ear and it was the most painful experience I ever had.  I have had gas run out of a tank (I thought was empty) run all over the garage floor and then knocked a clip light into the fuel. Thankful the bulb didn't break but it was not a good situation to be in.


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Re: 1972 1.6 Runabout gas tank
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2019, 07:47:30 PM »
NO!!! DON'T WELD ON A GAS TANK!!! Even static electricity from hair and clothes can ignite gasoline.  The only (and still very risky) way I've heard of tanks being welded is to fill them mostly with water and then add dry ice. The dry ice gives off carbon dioxide and supposedly prevents fuel vapors for igniting. I in no way advise this. Do everything at your own risk and liability.

First check where the leak is actually coming from. Often it can "look" like it is coming from one area but it might be coming from elsewhere.  Let the tank dry then have someone shake the car while you observe with a flashlight from the underside. Sometimes it is the fuel sender, a fuel line etc. that can the the real source of the leak.

If the tank is bad and has a hole there are options. Ideally replace the tank, it is 47 years old. There are putty's that can fix a hole and solutions that you slosh in the tank (once removed) that are intended to fill voids. But they should be considered temporary fixes.

Again, be careful.  I've had gas run in my ear and it was the most painful experience I ever had.  I have had gas run out of a tank (I thought was empty) run all over the garage floor and then knocked a clip light into the fuel. Thankful the bulb didn't break but it was not a good situation to be in.

Good thing I'm not rushing to get it fixed at the moment. I have already assessed the damage to the gas tank and it seems to be on the driver side corner closest to the rear. There is an impressive amount of rust on the corner and it leak in many drips a minute.

Do you know of anywhere that I can get a replacement gas tank?

Many thanks,
Wrench Monkey

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Re: 1972 1.6 Runabout gas tank
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2019, 07:52:32 PM »
Sorry, I don't. But hopefully someone here may have one they are willing to sell. This board moves rather slow so be patient.

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Re: 1972 1.6 Runabout gas tank
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2019, 11:00:45 PM »
You might want to check with these guys.
http://www.gas-tank.com
If you want it professionally done.
Or do some research on using JB Weld. Seriously.
I live in the Phoenix area, and got lots of local places while searching that may do it. Have you searched Google for gas tank repair near you?

Good luck.
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Re: 1972 1.6 Runabout gas tank
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2019, 11:05:22 PM »
You might want to check with these guys.
http://www.gas-tank.com
If you want it professionally done.
Or do some research on using JB Weld. Seriously.
I live in the Phoenix area, and got lots of local places while searching that may do it. Have you searched Google for gas tank repair near you?

Good luck.
Russ

I had not known about such a service. They seem to really know how to repair and restore a tank, so I'll go with them. I'll also do some looking around locally, but I know that nobody in my area specializes in car gas tank repairs.

Many thanks,
Wrench Monkey

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Re: 1972 1.6 Runabout gas tank
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2019, 07:39:04 PM »

hi, I went with moyer tank repair and they did a really nice job on my tank. it looked (and still does) like new. I've had mine done now about 11-12 years ago. and with no issues at all. they may seem pricey but well worth the money! you cant go wrong!


p.s.  just my two cents!
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Re: 1972 1.6 Runabout gas tank
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2019, 09:30:24 PM »
hi, I went with moyer tank repair and they did a really nice job on my tank. it looked (and still does) like new. I've had mine done now about 11-12 years ago. and with no issues at all. they may seem pricey but well worth the money! you cant go wrong!


p.s.  just my two cents!

I reached out to them for an estimate. My tank only has a small corner leak and the rest still looks fine. How much was your restoration back then? I was quoted $350 just by describing the issue and it's more than a fair price that I would go with.

Many Thanks,
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Re: 1972 1.6 Runabout gas tank
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2019, 07:06:02 PM »
that sounds about right. I had my whole tank gone over. like I said very happy with there work! you cant go wrong!
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Re: 1972 1.6 Runabout gas tank
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2019, 12:47:24 PM »
New tanks for '75+ Pintos are still available for about $200-250. I don't know what's different, but I have one out of a '78 hatch and seem to recall the one in my '72 looking identical.
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Re: 1972 1.6 Runabout gas tank
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2019, 05:51:48 AM »
New tanks for '75+ Pintos are still available for about $200-250. I don't know what's different, but I have one out of a '78 hatch and seem to recall the one in my '72 looking identical.

The gas tanks are actually drastically different from what I've heard and seen. If I can't get a good quote to rebuild mine then I'm going to be cutting out the hatch floor and putting a Mach1 tank in there instead.

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Re: 1972 1.6 Runabout gas tank
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2019, 12:24:49 PM »
The gas tanks are actually drastically different from what I've heard and seen.
How so?
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Re: 1972 1.6 Runabout gas tank
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2019, 01:59:09 PM »
 I get a side bar link to a Partgeek ad that lists 75-76 as a different part number then 77-80. Yet, the external dimensions are listed as the same. I know at some point Ford went to a longer filler neck (to keep it from popping out). I'm assuming any difference probably has to do with ventilation and vapor recovery. However, they might have made tank design changes for their "problem," or such changes as spare tire well size change (space saver spare), different fuel senders etc..

  Measure your tanks dimensions, see if they match the tank you have and perhaps it will work just putting caps on certain hose connectors of later cars. The more critical aspects would be the filler neck and fuel sender. Search and see if they have similar part numbers. Anyone have a Hollander Interchange book?

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Re: 1972 1.6 Runabout gas tank
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2019, 12:10:54 AM »

I bought one of these two for my 76. I don't remember which one. There is a small difference at the filler neck connection. I just bought the one that looked like mine.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=pinto+fuel+tank&ref=nb_sb_noss
I bought the sending unit on this page below the shown fuel tank. I never tried it out. I did not finish the project. Some one here at the club bought it. They said it worked backwards. F=empty and E=full. You might be able to rewire it or just remember how it reads.
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Re: 1972 1.6 Runabout gas tank
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2019, 12:15:58 AM »
How so?

The tank overall dimensions are the same, but the shapes are different. A 1970-1973 style tank can fit into later model pintos, but later model pinto tanks cannot. Once the rains stop I'll pull my tank out and post pictures.

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Re: 1972 1.6 Runabout gas tank
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2019, 01:46:16 PM »
It will be interesting to see the pictures. There is "stock" fit and often times there is modified fit where a simple spacer, a bracket notch etc. will do the trick. I have no idea what it is in this case but would be curious to see. If it is a clearance issue and you can show that in pictures that will be great. The more we know the more we can all help each other.

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Re: 1972 1.6 Runabout gas tank
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2019, 01:28:37 PM »
I have put a later tank in a 72 pinto. The later straps have to be used but it seems to work well. It hangs out further below the valence. I can't upload to gallery but I'll try and attach a file. I had also posted a thread previously about the installation.