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sedan 1/4 glasses
« on: June 24, 2013, 07:11:03 PM »
I've been searching for awhile now and cannot find anything on if a pop out style 1/4 window will fit where stationary window is. What is needed to change them over if it is possible?
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2013, 09:39:40 PM »
They fit as long as you have the correct seals. I got a set to use in my '73 sedan.
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 10:17:41 PM »
The hardest part to find are the hinges that pivot the glass when windows open and close.
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2013, 05:35:28 PM »
thanks guys!
do you know if anyone makes aftermarket seals for the pop-out style?
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2013, 05:44:37 PM »
thanks guys!
do you know if anyone makes aftermarket seals for the pop-out style?

No, I could use a set myself. Mine are usable but someone needs to make these
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2013, 07:08:05 PM »
Anyone have pictures of during a conversion? Or maybe some pics of the inside rear, where the clasp is? Does it just screw into something that is already behind the headliner? Does the hinge part at the front that is on the body side bolt to the b-pillar? Basically im trying to figure out what all i need in order to complete a conversion. Pictures are worth a million words  :D
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2013, 09:57:59 PM »
It's all contained in the frame. 2 screws on each side attach the pop out lever. I just made a deal for a '71 half-hatch that I've wanted forever so my set may end up on that car in a couple months if I'm feeling adventurous. If I do it, I'll snap pix.
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2013, 07:35:02 AM »
 Might help a little
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2013, 05:27:44 PM »
Thanks Ricpinto!   What on the car side does the front hinge point attach to?
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2013, 05:32:17 PM »
That pic nailed it. Very accurate & shows the flip out lever that gets screwed to the car. Also shows me that I'm missing the little screw covers for my set.  :o
 
The hinges are part of the metal frame & are held in place by the gasket. The only thing that requires drilling is the 2 screws that hold the flip out lever inside the car.
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2013, 05:47:12 PM »
Thanks everyone! now I just have to find a pair now that I know what I need to get it done
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2013, 08:07:50 AM »
 Please note this image is for a wagon but the system is the same on a sdn.
The (green) is inserted into the (red) then the pin is installed. Then the assembly is "snapped" into the regtanglar cut out on the sheet metal of the window opening.
 
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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2013, 07:53:55 PM »
Is the 302A12 piece plastic? How about the pin 385350S ?  Are these pieces available aftermarket if I cannot locate them from a parts car?
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2013, 12:46:35 AM »
Is the 302A12 piece plastic? How about the pin 385350S ?  Are these pieces available aftermarket if I cannot locate them from a parts car?

Nobody reproduces them. You need to find good used or NOS. the early cars came with metal spring hinges.
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2013, 08:20:47 PM »
Anyone know if this is the correct piece that slides into the body? Or if anyone has tried this?
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2013, 09:34:47 PM »
Yes, this is what I bought from Dennis Carpenter for my wagon.  They don't come with the pin though.  You have to either re-use your original pins or fabricate your own.  I was able to turn some out of brass on a lathe.

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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2013, 10:12:05 PM »
Perfect! Price is kinda steep but I guess its no good without them, Thanks for the reply's, will get pics as I do the conversion
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« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2013, 05:47:53 AM »
 I don't know what (if any) differnce there is, but the Ford parts book shows different part numbers for the sedan vs wagon.
The pick-up ones will work on a wagon. I got them for mine a while back.
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2013, 12:03:14 PM »
scored me a set of pop-out windows yesterday, but the salvage yard had to pull them and they didn't listen when I said "with all hardware and seals"  I got a decent set of seals, and glasses with the clasps, but only one of the covers for the clasps, one wrecked hinge pin, no screws and no hinges for the body side  :-\  The car already has the holes in it for the pop-out style glass, snapped some pics for those interested
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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2013, 06:47:03 AM »
The plastic hinge pins (385350-S) are available at at few places.
Note : some places don't use the (-)
I'm unable to copy or print the info from the parts search site. If anyone is interested PM or E me & I'll type up a list.
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2013, 05:33:53 PM »
got the 1/4 glasses installed today
here is some pictures, I used some cotter pins that I cut down to make fit for the pin
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2013, 07:33:27 PM »
nice install, just picked up a complete set last weekend for my 75 bobcat, how was the install?? did a quick look and looked like it was going to take some time and a lot of patience!! don't have a lot of both right now with my little one running around!!
 
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2013, 02:28:21 PM »
Nice!, those plastic hinges look like they are the wagon style.  Did they work just fine or did you have to modify them any to get them to work other than the cotter pin?  The factory hatch ones are slightly different but similar.  Also how much per if I may ask?
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2013, 01:04:52 PM »
I am interested in doing this conversion as well.  I have the glass, but not the hinges.  Hurm, can you tell people what the part # for the item in the image is?  I'd be interested in ordering a set.
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2013, 01:06:34 PM »
Ahh nevermind, I found it when I searched "hinge" for all departments (car, truck, etc.) My bad.
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Re: sedan 1/4 glasses
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2013, 06:29:18 PM »
Install was very simple. I had about 30 mins into putting both sides in. It was pretty hot outside and I don't have the interior 1/4 panels installed at this time, you will have to remove the inner panels to remove the chrome along the bottom of the window on outside in order to get the stationary windows out. Everything is pretty straight forward. The hinges that I got from Dennis Carpenter (part number D5FZ-73302A12-A) are kind of pricey but they do work without modification, they are not super tight fitting into the body of the car but they do hold the window in place.
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