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Rear Carpet and inside metal questions
« on: September 13, 2015, 11:40:33 AM »
I have a 77 pinto wagon and I would like some input on the following:

1. The rear wagon caroet needs replacing. Anybody have luck having the carpet remade, seems like it shouold be an easy aneough task for a company that has that ability. Anybody know of any companies, or have it done?

2. The inside metal on my car looks OK at best and I want it to look better than OK. Any ideas on how to do this? I was thinking outside the box and may have all the inside metal painted the same yellow as outside the car. Any ideas, suggestions, comments? Bad move? Good move? Any other ideas on what to do?

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Re: Rear Carpet and inside metal questions
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2015, 12:04:51 PM »
I have found that carpet for home/offices works just as well for the vehicle interiors, it just requires a bit more fitting & the ends that aren't covered/held down by trim to be sealed so they don't unravel. Going the standard carpet route allows a much bigger selection of types & colors of carpets and can be purchased in larger amounts to cover any/all desired areas in the car/vehicle. I don't have the name of a shop that will re-carpet vehicles because I've always done my own, including building carpet kits for the beds of trucks.

..And since you'll likely have the interior removed(seats, panels, etc) to carpet the vehicle, you might just as well sand, prime, prep & paint the interior metal surfaces also.. Just make very sure to sand & 'etch-prime' any/all areas that have any rust on them. The rust must be stopped or it will develop into a body cancer that will blister the paint, along with other damage.

I suppose it all depends on how much time, work, & detail you wish to put into the vehicle to get it to look & last just the way you wish it.. ;)

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Re: Rear Carpet and inside metal questions
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2015, 03:55:36 AM »
I wasn't doing a Wagon, but working on my Runabout when I decided that the carpet needed to go from the rear of the car. The hatch had been leaking for sometime and the carpet in the back was shot. I gutted out the interior from the rear half of the car, including the rear seat and all the panels. At that point I threw out the old carpet and  basically went over all the exposed metal I could with a scotch brite scrubby. I had already done the same to the underside of the car and sprayed it with the Rubberized Undercoating available in the spray can a while back to try and get a grip on some rust areas.

At that point I shot more of the same rubberized coating into all the open areas of the body panels I could get to with all the panels out. I also used some plasticized filler material to plug a few small areas where the leaking had been coming in. I also took the time to shoot all the rust spots with some etching primer after loosening all the damaged material I could take out, before spraying the coating material.

I did what I could to reuse or replace any insulation that had been damaged or showed signs of either mildew or previous water damage. So then I was ready to roll out a coating of truck bedliner coating material. It took two coats for decent coverage and a few days to fully cure. The product I used was, I believe, Hercu-Liner. It was easy to roll onto all the exposed metal. The gallon kit I bought for about $80-90 if memory serves me. The gallon kit had enough of the coating to do the inner back fender wells, the "trunk" area including the metal under the interior panels, the metal back plates for the rear seat and the bottom of the seat wells under the rear seat, and I still have enough left to do the floor in the front of the car if I get around to it shortly.

I need to redo the upholstery in the car, but at the time I only did some replacement panels on the rear seat so I chose that as my stopping point at this time. I've found several suppliers for the preformed carpet for the front of the car, but I'm somewhat financially embarrassed at the moment and not able to afford to do too much work right now. I've seen rockauto.com has the carpet and floor mats in multiple weights available. You might check them out just to see the specs.

I think that once I finish out the floor in this bed material I'll definitely want to add the carpet back, but I've found that the liner stops rust pretty well, it seals up the metal and leaves a very rough texture that took the spray web adhesive I used very well and bonded nicely. I think the surface will be perfect for making sure the eventual replacement pad and carpet stay where I put it. That being said, the rough texture is created by using a rough textured roller that there's two of in the kit, but I think it could be laid in smoother with a different roller if you wanted.

More importantly to me right now though, the texture stops things from sliding around too much and I've found it to be alright to live with in most other ways. It does insulate and deaden sound to a degree, but isn't an answer in and of itself, just a component to add a little bit more. I only did the two coats by the directions, but I feel like you could layer it up a bit thicker if you wanted to add a bit more thickness.

Unless you just have access to some other materials to work with, I think the liner kit ends up being a good deal. You get a tough durable surface to protect the metal that looks pretty good to me. (They had a couple of tinted options available, but I did mine in black.) It'll be good under the carpet later, but doesn't need to be babied in the mean time. I just haven't seen any downside yet. I think its a good intermediate step for everyone and it'll be a finished product for a lot of people.

That's the direction I'm going in anyway, and thought it sounded like it might belong in the back of a wagon like yours.

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Re: Rear Carpet and inside metal questions
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2015, 12:09:35 PM »
Visit a carpet store and select a color and thickness that you like.  Once it is cut to fit (I'd suggest making a template here, just for the sake of accuracy) the carpet store should be able to bind it for you so you'll have a finished product with a factory appearance.


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Re: Rear Carpet and inside metal questions
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2015, 02:28:54 PM »
Visit a carpet store and select a color and thickness that you like.  Once it is cut to fit (I'd suggest making a template here, just for the sake of accuracy) the carpet store should be able to bind it for you so you'll have a finished product with a factory appearance.


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Re: Rear Carpet and inside metal questions
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2015, 07:03:50 AM »
I have a 77 pinto wagon and I would like some input on the following:

1. The rear wagon caroet needs replacing. Anybody have luck having the carpet remade, seems like it shouold be an easy aneough task for a company that has that ability. Anybody know of any companies, or have it done?

2. The inside metal on my car looks OK at best and I want it to look better than OK. Any ideas on how to do this? I was thinking outside the box and may have all the inside metal painted the same yellow as outside the car. Any ideas, suggestions, comments? Bad move? Good move? Any other ideas on what to do?

My car was stripped inside and out and painted yellow :) Pictures are in here somewhere. Basically like factory with a yellow that wasn't around back then. Still waiting on the small parts and wheels to be painted though :(
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Re: Rear Carpet and inside metal questions
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2015, 09:46:50 AM »
Just noticed your looking for. Rear carpet for your wagon , I ordered one for my cruzer wagon a few years ago , all the corners are trimmed out like the org , when I go home I will get the address off the box for you , or a phone number , later Blaine

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Re: Rear Carpet and inside metal questions
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2015, 12:45:27 PM »
Just noticed your looking for. Rear carpet for your wagon , I ordered one for my cruzer wagon a few years ago , all the corners are trimmed out like the org , when I go home I will get the address off the box for you , or a phone number , later Blaine



That sounds like an even better suggestion!  I wasn't aware anyone was manufacturing a replacement carpet for wagons.  You learn something new every day!!!

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Re: Rear Carpet and inside metal questions
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2015, 08:50:07 PM »
Just noticed your looking for. Rear carpet for your wagon , I ordered one for my cruzer wagon a few years ago , all the corners are trimmed out like the org , when I go home I will get the address off the box for you , or a phone number , later Blaine

Awesome! I need it on my wagon!!!
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Re: Rear Carpet and inside metal questions
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2015, 06:46:33 AM »
Anyone tried this place?

http://www.autoobsession.com/MoldedCarpet72-80FORDPINTOSWandMERCBOB-1.aspx

It shows a picture of a full carpet set. Did you call them/contact them? It's 139 for the rear deck, seems high and it doesn't look like 80/20 loop?
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Re: Rear Carpet and inside metal questions
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2015, 08:42:21 AM »
I haven't called them. I'm not ready for carpet yet. $139 that fits & has the correct binding isn't too crazy.
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Re: Rear Carpet and inside metal questions
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2015, 01:33:56 PM »
I haven't called them. I'm not ready for carpet yet. $139 that fits & has the correct binding isn't too crazy.

Maybe not, but you can get a full carpet set with 80/20 loop pile for about the same. So kinda crazy to me..
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Re: Rear Carpet and inside metal questions
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2015, 02:10:46 PM »
Maybe not, but you can get a full carpet set with 80/20 loop pile for about the same. So kinda crazy to me..

Does that full set include the rear carpet or just fronts?
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Re: Rear Carpet and inside metal questions
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2015, 06:41:57 AM »
Does that full set include the rear carpet or just fronts?

It's the full without the trunk.
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