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Shiny is Good! => Your Project => Topic started by: warhead2 on November 01, 2005, 10:57:13 PM

Title: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on November 01, 2005, 10:57:13 PM
ok guys well it is time for me to start on my project. So far I have tank the seats out and i plan and am working on re-uposter them starting with the back seat and in jan starting on the front seats.  and as of yesterday i removed the carpet and found that the front 2 floor pans rustd out with the pass being the wost.    I will post pics very soon. and here in a few wks i plan to take out the motor. ok thats it for now pics to fallow soon ;D
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: gpinto2 on November 02, 2005, 04:36:47 PM
Good luck keep us posted!!!!!
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: High_Horse on November 05, 2005, 01:48:42 AM
Yesssssss!!!! WarHead....Go for it!!!!!!!! Pictures are very good. I will be starting on my interior after the first of the year as well. Is that a 78? what are your drive train plans?
                                                                                                     High_Horse
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on November 06, 2005, 04:50:06 PM
its a 77 and for the drive train havent really thought about that yet.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on November 24, 2005, 12:34:45 PM
ok here r some pics first pic is the pass seat,  2nd is driver, 3rd is back seat. at this time i have the bottem part of the back seat upholstered and workn on the top part pics soon to come
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on November 24, 2005, 12:46:24 PM
ok this is 2 pics after i took the seats out just a reminder this car has been sitn for about 15 yrs so feild mice and rats got in there and made it there home lol
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on January 27, 2019, 05:11:14 AM
Thought i would update this after above post from 13 yrs ago. I didn't really get going until April 2016 when i finally was able to load it up and move it to a garage in OKC. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/cafb985f0a9832128250836f0e2d021d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/7fd249ba8767d2e3130b4dfbc348eaf8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/5b03733523511f0b1bb8ed3e7644a726.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/cc353feaa2e601f52c1148e0f5038fe6.jpg) it had moved once from 2005 and sat another 12 yrs in a field. As i got it to my garage about to unload a passerby saw the car and asked if it was a Vega lol i was like no Pinto he said cool dont see them often and went on his way.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/99b4a62857012ab82db652c996f9e7d2.jpg) after i got into the garage.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on January 27, 2019, 05:28:00 AM
I got the front fender off and started on the driver's front end.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/d6492803691eacdad67cb4a74ad5dc19.jpg) (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/9ca67da6dc55d528d9803c64d0f0029f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/acc00493135ae0e923be238a3270928b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/6e06beb5bcb1e043a70f81ab49d22afa.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/a79989fc18e3179a18472b808a024ccb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/07f315735a4104c9493c387e4027e215.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/b7612aa4b5b71b2fa6d9cafdaeed860b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/ba4cbbcb2688dc1ae001e635dd4bb3ab.jpg) came apart with hardly any problems for sitting for 27years until the lower control arm bolt after cut part bolt off still couldn't get it out. I finally able to split the inner bushing sleeve some and get vise grips on it it broke free
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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on January 27, 2019, 05:39:48 AM
Some interior shots(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/3bf8fc25cf3516f48b81a3373a9b0be5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/8cdcfe552d4b376d8f00b28e69807c96.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/9bca4b410d3662f08cba0be1f41c467d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/fbd8a3dc2322006cd7e76197951d4b43.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/d0f28eb60bb58e99ca62cb486c390f60.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/fb5b48d977946e01ae44466a9f5a19e7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/77e9078bf6ee4d308c483416fcc2ebb2.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on January 27, 2019, 05:47:31 AM
Cleand up and primed the bracket for the brake cooling box(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/9421ee9ce8cbff24730e8ac66f0e87ed.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/49f069c05220d5958eb69ffd7755b3be.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/bc09cf3cd2f7fbda515d099470c81af0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/7853a9aeacf4717d74818d99a33edcc7.jpg)
Also took out the battery tray needs some work. I dont have a mig welder yet(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/d4fc909061854548a2498de9f2d87785.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/3608ae6f54009d4a2da194f581a93872.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/2d09445f911bc33bd9bcfb5d04fecd43.jpg)
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I took out the radiator and the thermostat housing out was very rusted on in the tube but ok on the engine side. Was some sludge just inside the motor will get it dipped at a later date. Look at that 27 yr old radiator fluid still green lol.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on January 28, 2019, 05:21:36 AM
Was checking out some rust on passenger side between door and rear wheel. Found bondo and who ever did the work sucks. They put 1/2 thick layer of bondo even a small part was still wet from 27 yrs ago lol. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190128/ae0ad6ded4ba053853463b6a8fbffca3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190128/a5d1cbc7e003d44342065acd8de0a602.jpg)
Also removed the carburetor
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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on January 28, 2019, 05:34:49 AM
Some more clean up of parts(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190128/05c790caf87debc0b43a446594769cb7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190128/fe1158a8229458cdefb34275838bfe66.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190128/3191864805d875f69b9ce211811fe167.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190128/1c944f589dec2f82085e89452547979f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190128/af46285407de71e9f847eef8cc3c1b4e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190128/6cacc179cbfedbc2cc6deb7ce9676d0e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190128/e3717f6359b8ae4aac01da989fed56f7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190128/0823330d835da1be1b9b6c97d5aeefcf.jpg)
Removed York A/C compressor
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And removed the hood
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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Reeves1 on January 28, 2019, 07:22:00 AM
Guy on FB sells floor pan patches.

Joe Bayura Jr.

This link may help you find him.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/154914807971570/search/?query=Joe%20Bayura%20Jr.&epa=SEARCH_BOX
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on January 28, 2019, 07:11:30 PM
Ok thanks i had seen his post

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on March 23, 2019, 02:37:06 AM
Sandblasted and painted with chaise saver paint(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190323/b0aa69dc9d78aaaa29ecc4d81a1b28fc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190323/53649cb7316aaa42b0ccff4465557a79.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190323/c2883d9c1fdecf307dac0fc9f1a621d1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190323/347e395fa958f809b92034650d52a79d.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: The Whistler on March 23, 2019, 07:39:37 AM
I like It. Show us more progress please!
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on March 23, 2019, 08:16:05 AM
Im working on it slow but steady

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 10, 2019, 07:33:24 PM
Worked on lower control arm bushing got the inner sleeve and rubber out. Now to get the outer sleeve out.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190411/71049cc51500cfff273eb2407839c15e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190411/ceb432b4cc87f3bef630ba33099a3c14.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 10, 2019, 07:38:15 PM
Transmission cross member before cleaning. Will paint tomorrow. Will post pics soon(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190411/f2a400f2153cc307813dd3083e9ca4f7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190411/93af08ccc414f14e2dac51859ee8a89a.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 11, 2019, 03:09:41 AM
Just got the outer sleeve out. Also ordered my energy suspension control arm bushings. Also paint this control arm also.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190411/8b8bf475ed69415d90cdd36051fe83f2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190411/b9ac32b7db73a063bca0dca29e97bed6.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 17, 2019, 10:37:22 PM
The Easter bunny came early. With bushings and some suspension parts lol. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190418/c06f37ff71db6f1fe980a4e005f596a2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190418/bcce4aadadce10d30684bed12f8085cb.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 19, 2019, 04:28:30 PM
Put some Dupli color truck bed liner on wheel well fire wall. Put on 3 coats on. Also tried putting in coil spring isolator to make sure it fits and it fits perfectly.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190419/b2f2742b87d253c89fffc388d45c2c31.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190419/58bcb9dbf964ae909d088bab78bd588f.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: TIGGER on April 22, 2019, 05:20:13 PM
Looks like you are making some good progress.  Your car reminds me of my cruising wagon.  Floor pans and all...LOL.  Make sure you re-seam seal the cowl panel under the fender before you put it on.  The part where the cowl meets the kick panel side.  My car leaked down the kick panels on both side due to the seam sealer cracking / falling off.  Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 22, 2019, 10:45:49 PM
Thanks will do. I plan on redoing all the seams with sealer inside and out.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on June 24, 2019, 07:55:41 AM
Painted transmission mount (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190624/b254987d52c817e5ec5134da1b9ec8b4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190624/62ce842ab50ce903a881c4368c71493c.jpg)
Took bell housing off the transmission to clean up(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190624/8294a9427deb3ec494003af363ea2e29.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190624/30effe5b9109b7611ba6ca8674f1a064.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190624/74c9d4bc3bd82716070731adaca3e336.jpg)

Got the lower control arm painted.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190624/e09b3e1ed230713786a1fda94c4cbf51.jpg)

Also put some undercoating on the driver's fender (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190624/02c1f591a33c67fa73259d0299906f95.jpg)

Thats it for now need to get on the ball and put the driver's side suspension back together. Then I can start on passenger side.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Wittsend on June 24, 2019, 10:43:45 AM
After a lengthy delay..., you are making steady progress. Nice work too. In 2000 I started working on my Sunbeam Tiger. I dealt with the floor rust and lower body panels. I got that all painted, the suspension and rear end rebuilt and then in 2004 I hit a wall.  Keep posting, I need the inspiration.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on June 26, 2019, 03:34:18 AM
Thanks. Made a small step got the bushings in the upper control arm still need a center type support pipe to finish it up to get them set all the way.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190626/433cdac1c9668d5ad4f06d45f691b50f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190626/de39d005a3fdab5638a44117a59aba1f.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on July 12, 2019, 03:53:21 PM
Started last night disassembling the passenger side suspension. Ran out of time take off the lower control arm and spring + shock.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190712/83aa75c10f36360d1b4285a7adb9b92b.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: SpaceCowboy1979 on July 14, 2019, 11:22:26 AM
All the pics are great.
Could you add a couple
Focusing on the interior porthole
Windows .
I'm missing trim rings
And panels
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on July 14, 2019, 11:31:24 AM
I haven't done much in the inside. Are you wanting pictures of the trim rings?

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: SpaceCowboy1979 on July 14, 2019, 03:20:18 PM
Yes please
And the panel
On or off of car
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on July 14, 2019, 11:38:14 PM
I can do the trim ring but im not going to pull off the carpet panel just yet. Just not enough room have the rear end inside of Wagon as storage space at this time if you do some searching on this forum you should be able to find some good pictures of the carpet panel. Here is a bit of info i have saved for when I get to that point. These are the clips that hold the carpet panel on.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190715/f01670f72590129f8d0fa0e0d7db973f.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: SpaceCowboy1979 on July 15, 2019, 06:20:34 PM
Thanks 
I'll be watching
Trying to sign as a charter member
Today. It's my 49th birthday hope to drive my
1979 crusing wagon on my 50th.  "LOTS TO DO "
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on July 22, 2019, 05:54:55 AM
Got the passenger side suspension taken apart. Surprisingly the lower control arm bushing bolt i didn't have any problems with taking it out. Unlike drivers side inner sleeve was rusted to the bolt. Just need to remove the old bushings and ball joints then i can blast them and then paint.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190722/5c4e54e6d4331aebe5b13aeefe5ed2ba.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on July 22, 2019, 05:58:14 AM
Sorry Spacecowboy I wasn't able to remove the trim ring I tryed a little bit  but it wasn't going to come out easily without breaking so i left it for now. Plus i was out of time had to go to work. Took 2 pictures for you hope it helps.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190722/79a226829435c142e1c79715c730cdb5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190722/144d5ee42f0379f619fd4d5f597d0b2f.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on July 22, 2019, 06:15:09 AM
Also noticed something interesting on the spindle that wasnt on the driver's side or i just forgot. Is this white foam almost like the thin packaging foam. Anyone know what this is, or needed after rebuild. Only thing I can think of is a sealing surface for the wheel bearing.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190722/26bf402c2690ccb318ae3ae3cb1d38db.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190722/fed21731f44648bb5db0ce3224ce62b7.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: SpaceCowboy1979 on July 23, 2019, 08:19:42 AM
Thanks
Warhead
And I took dust plates off
2 1979 wagons and that white
Foam was behind them
For a seal.
Let me know if you find new ones
Thanks again
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on July 23, 2019, 08:31:38 AM
No problem. Yeah i noticed on an older picture that it was behind the brake dust shield. Guess i forgot it was on the driver's side. If i do find new part ill let you know.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Scott Hamilton on July 23, 2019, 11:37:33 AM
Also noticed something interesting on the spindle that wasnt on the driver's side or i just forgot. Is this white foam almost like the thin packaging foam.

Yea, I saw that too when I was replacing my rotors with re-mans, I had never taken the dust shield of any of the Pintos I owned since back in the day. Your right, it does look like packaging foam, I remember thinking the same thing, :)  Nice progress on your wagon- keep them coming, it spurs us all on, those of us who have projects in our garage, to focus on our builds.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on July 31, 2019, 02:31:46 AM
Got the old bushings removed and control arms sand blasted and clean. Now time for paint.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190731/e1444a9257a734271b57e1d0877c65ea.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on July 31, 2019, 02:50:01 AM
Thanks Scott. I try to work on my Pinto at least 1 to 2 days a week on my days off. Car is stored at a friends house or would probably be more days. As for the foam did a little research it's only there for vibrations of the shield and keep dust out. Some say foam n shield is not needed but im going keep mine lol. I found out packing foam max temp is 160 to 180f. Brakes can get up to 300F normal driving. Also found a company that sells hi temp foam https://www.stockwell.com/gasket-types/ (https://www.stockwell.com/gasket-types/)

They have high temp foam sheets may be able to make your own.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190731/db8e7e4a32d3213cddc5ec99c7ea3c26.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190731/8f8ea52d6d165e4483d8aa4a6a1ca232.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on August 16, 2019, 11:47:27 PM
Got my upper control arm bushings in. My question is does the inner sleeve seat all the way to the lip of the bar? And does it look right?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190817/5d9c3166b8927d7f384095b8c6d51d5f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190817/b30e3f79fc21d1ae84b5cf05f469d101.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on August 27, 2019, 03:25:52 AM
Got my bushings in on my lower control arms. Come a long way from what they used to look like.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190827/53a4cbe202effba5f27f7f25f3732457.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190827/9887577ccf536b9480a4c89b8da7cfc2.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on September 08, 2019, 12:30:47 AM
Took the passenger strut rod off looks like I'll have to by a new one from speedway.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190908/579461f0cf6adfdbb69da612d1cbeb9c.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Reeves1 on September 24, 2019, 07:09:26 AM
You get the hood hinge boots ? Compare them yet ?

When / if you find the (new) strut rods, please post info where you found them & part number !
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on October 14, 2019, 12:22:05 AM
You get the hood hinge boots ? Compare them yet ?

When / if you find the (new) strut rods, please post info where you found them & part number !
Yes i got them. Sry I didn't respond sooner haven't really done much in the last month or so.
But I did compare them and it seems the 79 to 93 Mustang boot won't work outside diameter is a little to big and the inside is a little bit smaller see pictures. I got to thinking if where careful to clean up the old ones I wonder if felx seal spray would work coating the outside?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/1aa30cf4e9650da8419b2a317113ff8d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/82a10fba15920684ca51e898f0908ae3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/4ba8c58fae904d26713c9ed4cade7569.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: SpaceCowboy1979 on October 14, 2019, 03:43:26 PM
For my boots I cleaned them up
Put a coat of silicone primer on
On a small spot or 2 used a bit of mesh fiber tape
For drywall then coated inside and out with the
Flex All
Worked great
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on January 06, 2020, 01:08:47 AM
Not really anything new haven't had time. I did buy these silicone cone plugs on Amazon. Used them once so far and they work great. They also  have a different one that you can slip over bolts or scews to keep paint off of.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200106/a5a9c7cb7de2d1053aa9d0ef40ad0d4b.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Reeves1 on January 06, 2020, 06:52:25 AM
Took the passenger strut rod off looks like I'll have to by a new one from speedway.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190908/579461f0cf6adfdbb69da612d1cbeb9c.jpg)

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Just searched Speedway & could not find them.....link please ?
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on January 06, 2020, 06:59:58 AM
Its under the Mustang 2 parts

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-Mustang-II-Front-Suspension-Replacement-Strut-Rod,2104.html (https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-Mustang-II-Front-Suspension-Replacement-Strut-Rod,2104.html)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Reeves1 on January 06, 2020, 08:12:17 AM
I'll take measurements today & see if they'll work for a 72.
Says it may not fit....

I wrote the measurements down & dug out a strut rod. The measurements look the same.

But want to be 100% sure before I order any.
Can you please trace out the new one you get (as close as possible to perfect) and snail mail to me ?
I'll PM my address in case you lost it.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on January 06, 2020, 06:17:58 PM
Got your pm I will when I order one. Don't know when that will be probably in the next 6 months. I want to try and get the front suspension put back together soon since it is all clean n painted. Still need a few more parts.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on February 07, 2020, 01:48:49 AM
Got the passenger side fender off and started cleaning inside fender wall with soap n water. Getting ready for sanding and primer then some undercoating.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200207/68520fdfad3d76c98b0e6d58d612a197.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200207/1d3657945047dc2aee9c44511286376c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200207/83b042590b3aef49c244aa5551a375eb.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Reeves1 on February 08, 2020, 08:21:42 AM
I stripped the tar (grease, oil etc) off of my blue car.

Wipe a thick coating of Go-Joe hand cleaner (gel & no grit) and power wash off. Use a second coat if necessary.

Easy & works very well !
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 20, 2020, 07:42:35 AM
Nothing new to really report. Plan on working on it this week some. My Mom sent me this picture it's from Jan 1987 OKC of a snow covered Pinto .(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200420/05a60d24e54df157c33a77851c477db2.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Wittsend on April 20, 2020, 11:40:47 AM
Clean out that cowl vent area while you have the fenders off too - while you have the chance.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: TIGGER on April 20, 2020, 02:17:09 PM
Also re-seam seal the pinch weld that connects the cowl to the kick panel side.  All my pintos had dried up seam sealer in those locations and leaked.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 20, 2020, 08:57:47 PM
I may remove the cowl and clean and repair rust and seal it up properly. Plan on getting a mig welder once i get my stimulus money. And for the seams i do plan on resealing all seams. Do you know if the seam sealer is the same for inside and outside? Or 2 different products?

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 20, 2020, 09:00:54 PM
Also incase anyone was wondering this is the product I used for my suspension parts. Its available on Amazon.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200421/593ba88ca6c9ae4890ce0133e75f7033.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Reeves1 on April 21, 2020, 05:11:45 AM
When you get the Mig , set up for gas. MUCH better than flux core.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 21, 2020, 05:43:16 AM
Most definitely thats the plan  For the gas.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 25, 2020, 05:09:40 AM
Worked on cleaning up the transmission some more. Need to get a parts washer. Also put a little primer down in the passenger fender area.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200425/3cf4a27b73bb94e3bb8e61ae52135c34.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200425/52b3a19bfaa1d1fd5d13074ff9eacc7a.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: 71pintoracer on April 25, 2020, 09:03:35 AM
Your work looks really good! Good to see you making progress, mine is going to be a long term build as well.
I was wondering if you were going to remove the round side windows? I've been eyeballing mine from time to time and I'm not sure if the rubber will survive. Or if there is anything that could be used to replace it. The carpet is faded so they will have to come out at some point. The rubber holds the glass and the trim panel and has a bead on the outside so it's a very specific piece.  :)
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 25, 2020, 09:57:16 AM
Your work looks really good! Good to see you making progress, mine is going to be a long term build as well.
I was wondering if you were going to remove the round side windows? I've been eyeballing mine from time to time and I'm not sure if the rubber will survive. Or if there is anything that could be used to replace it. The carpet is faded so they will have to come out at some point. The rubber holds the glass and the trim panel and has a bead on the outside so it's a very specific piece.  :)
Thanks yes im keeping the portholes I like them. As for the center chrome trim that goes in the middle of the porthole gasket that can be found new for 70s Ford Broncos believe its the chrome windshield trim. Should be a reference on the site about it. As for the rubber who knows how long it will last? When I get to  that part im going to see if there might be some other rubber  gasket that could come close to replace it. Like the rear trunk gasket on the Wagon is the same for a 1999-2002/ 04? ford ranger extended cab.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 25, 2020, 09:58:25 AM
Found the chrome trim. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200425/02ba39de8921ff67dfe8da49e53659be.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: 71pintoracer on April 25, 2020, 10:14:54 AM
OK cool thanks for the info! I'm keeping my windows for sure I'm just concerned about the rubber. I think they're going to have to come out at some point.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on May 13, 2020, 04:42:06 AM
Did some more cleaning and then primed fender and coil spring cup area. Plan on just using black rustoleum paint for the cup area. And truck bed liner for the rest of the fender area.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200513/731a45940fe67367f6bbd347bba276bc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200513/9cb83a5b59fd025c80b9d32f3d825b2a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200513/3127a6334cc2d00bf91db2789eeb8af9.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: pinto_one on May 14, 2020, 07:53:23 AM
looks like you have the dreaded rust out from the battery tray , very common , no one ever cleans this area when changing batterys , at least you can get at it with the fender off and weld in a new peice
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on May 14, 2020, 08:20:12 AM
Yes that's the plan when I get my welder. Battery  tray and the battery fender area are my first 2 repairs with the welder.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on May 22, 2020, 05:12:48 AM
Got both spring cups painted and the top of the driver's primed.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200522/15b94b6126f52ac5e168664b2a95777e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200522/8d47880c08990bd22204bdb707a85635.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200522/a38176c9181ba678e5176394273c1805.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200522/e1c97046630ee9f6a1ec1e865cb0ae15.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on May 29, 2020, 03:19:44 AM
Did some more painting on the spring cups. Primed and painted the middle area where the lower control arm gos on the passenger side. Almost ready to start putting the passenger side suspension back together. Almost have all the new replacement parts.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200529/b617b73682ff69ccbca2eac09d536fe1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200529/c2c19db8832822447f2d0024fe5a0a20.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200529/a140113e10c16755b10d0c92460a75aa.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: pinto_one on May 29, 2020, 09:52:15 AM
guess before you put the supenson back on finish up the welding on the battery box area , I always burn fresh paint with the splater from welding , then have to repaint , hate doing things twice , great job your doing ,
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on May 29, 2020, 10:45:54 AM
I would love to weld but don't have a welder yet. My plan was to leave the fender off and was only painting the area that i have done so far. I plan to use welding blankets to cover the area and suspension to protect it.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on June 11, 2020, 02:52:50 AM
Did a few touch ups/ I installed rubber spring isolators and installed the passenger lower control arm with the balljoint. Had to work to get the control arm in with the new bushings. If you use a 6in 2x4 to put under side on the sleeve of the bushing and hit it with a hand sledgehammer it will help get it into position.
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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on June 12, 2020, 03:57:37 AM
Got the bolt hole little bit more straight hopefully  i fixed it enough. I installed the driver's control arm and ball joint. Also painted the outside of the sping cup. Im moving in the right direction.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200612/b5b8407413fd29e430105e84c1a2e05c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200612/52a1b2e759715bf598890f5f644bf89a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200612/eb1c805033b52f3bc7b5fe9d7277bbf0.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Wittsend on June 12, 2020, 11:27:03 AM
Your perseverance and methodical "one step at a time" process should be inspiration to those who struggle with their Pinto projects. It is easy to get caught up in "window shopping" website catalogs but that shiny new part that was purchased at the click of a mouse..., it might take 10 hours prep work to install with a lasting effect. Keep your hands on the plow!


25 years ago someone gave me a '61 Corvair Lakewood station wagon. I used it mostly for storage but the winter of 2019 I decide, 'I'm 62 and if not now..., then WHEN???' So, I opted to make it a winter only project with the anticipation that it might take a few winters. Covid-19 has spread it into the spring - and possibly the summer. But the thing is you have to start, and you have to persevere. I'm getting close to putting the engine back together but it started with this  :o
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on June 12, 2020, 12:18:50 PM
Thanks for the compliment. Im trying to just stay focused in certain areas. I have all the front suspension cleaned and painted its basically ready for me to put it together. Im getting my mig welder today. So will have other stuff i can work on.


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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Wittsend on June 12, 2020, 02:34:33 PM
Not sure if you have ever welded..., or not, but here are a few things I learned with MIG. In addition to a helmet and some form of a jacket a Pro Welder friend told me to wear ear plugs. That keeps any sparks from striking your ear drum! Make sure the metal is CLEAN. Have a good solid ground. If it is a 120 volt welder avoid extension cords and if you need one make sure it is 12 gauge and only as long as needed.

 Sheet metal is a pain because you are likely replacing rusted areas. Anywhere the metal has thinned it is suspect to blowing a hole rather than fusing the steel. For me that is (notice I didn't say 'was') the greatest difficulty. Putting a piece of copper tightly behind those areas (potential holes) helps as it continues the continuity of current and also helps to draw heat. If you feel the gun pushing away from you, you have too much wire feeding. Use recommendation s BUT wire feed speed and current levels are something you perfect over time.

Be prepared to GRIND. MIG welding is a constant additive method. Other forms (gas, TIG) you add metal at your choosing. But MIG is like Arc welding, you aren't welding unless you are adding.

What Welder did you get? 20 years ago my wife was in Costco and they had a floor model $450+ Lincoln MIG PAK 10 on sale for $250. It has been a workhorse for me. Just try and stay within the duty rate cycle. Thankfully I have never tripped the internal core breaker. The other is if you are using shielding gas over flux core make sure you turn off the bottle. Nothing is more frustrating than days later finding you have leaked $35 of gas from a new bottle!
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on June 12, 2020, 02:57:22 PM
I have welded with Mig yrs ago. Took an Auto body / refinishing Class. Not to hard going to practice some before I commit to welding on the car. I bought the Eastwood 135 should fit my need for now. Still have to get a helmet and gas and a few other things.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on July 09, 2020, 01:17:23 AM
Got my Eastwood welder a few wks ago. Also got my floor pans when I get to that point to install them. Haven't done much work the last few wks. I started trying to remove the old undercoating on the passenger fender with a propane torch and paint scraper.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200709/5536352d9d1c9be33f73bdb7dfeb76a5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200709/4e56db9e182795d57504cfa5d20d0041.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Reeves1 on July 09, 2020, 06:32:18 AM
I used Joe's Hand Cleaner (no grit).
Pink stuff & like jelly.
Use gloves & slather on (with care due to sharp edges) and let sit over night (longer doesn't hurt).
Scrapes off easy with a putty knife.
Use a second time if required.
Easy & safe, no fumes etc.


See the top two containers on the left, the one I use is on the right, white with red letters...

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on July 30, 2020, 09:57:21 PM
Partly installed drivers strut on drivers side. Also put on some undercoating around strut area. Also so Eastwood frame rust protection before I installed the strut. That is aluminum foil wrapped around the brake lines to protect it from spray.  (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/d8257934ddee2b63a62af9ecdea387fb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/c83937ac85f8102670f85667430d9c6c.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on July 30, 2020, 10:01:13 PM
Does anyone think that this strut i bought from Speedway will be a problem? The angle is off like a 1/2 inch but the rest of it matches up.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/b1f7826b0153b175e7d6e49b72af6453.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200731/1235bd92a16632a74b85b361d16cde47.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on August 07, 2020, 06:28:39 AM
Got the driver's shock, strut arm n bushing and steering knuckle installed.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200807/d1a359ceaf963bba4cb33467bfb40443.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Wittsend on August 07, 2020, 01:49:21 PM
How did you deal with the different strut? I think the main thing it would change is the caster - if anything. But primarily I think it would either correct a design problem - if in fact one existed..., or not even install because things wouldn't line up.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on August 07, 2020, 03:35:10 PM
How did you deal with the different strut? I think the main thing it would change is the caster - if anything. But primarily I think it would either correct a design problem - if in fact one existed..., or not even install because things wouldn't line up.
The new strut is for the passenger side. I haven't  tried to install it yet. I think it will work  im hoping.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on August 21, 2020, 01:58:04 PM
Partially got the upper control arm in. And installed the upper ball joint on drivers side. Need to readjust my spring to sit in the groove in the lower arm. Need to spray on my truck bed liner on the passenger side before I install the rest on that side. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200821/d60fd172be8291976013152469b75506.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on August 27, 2020, 08:19:50 AM
Put on some truck bed liner on passenger side and some anti rust coating in the strut arm/ frame area. So i tried to install the old studs on the new strut arm and couldn't get it to go any further. Im going to measure the hole and the stud. I believe the holes need to be drilled out just a hair. Ill post my findings in the next few weeks. The strut arm is from Speedway.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200827/89d8f28ae177bce1edfa6dbc77b885ad.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200827/66f127a065bd749dae6cf736d624605d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200827/4f07ec98f677a988fb75def6c205d823.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: TIGGER on August 27, 2020, 07:21:21 PM
From what I remember the struts are different between the Pinto and Mustang II.  I don't remember what it was off the top of my head as it has been almost 15 years.  I had both front ends at the time and I was parting them out at the same time and I noticed those parts were different. 
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: rob289c on August 28, 2020, 09:10:13 AM
I have strut rods from an '80 that you are welcome to.  Let me know if you want them.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Reeves1 on August 28, 2020, 09:58:13 AM
Put on some truck bed liner on passenger side and some anti rust coating in the strut arm/ frame area. So i tried to install the old studs on the new strut arm and couldn't get it to go any further. Im going to measure the hole and the stud. I believe the holes need to be drilled out just a hair. Ill post my findings in the next few weeks. The strut arm is from Speedway.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200827/89d8f28ae177bce1edfa6dbc77b885ad.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200827/66f127a065bd749dae6cf736d624605d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200827/4f07ec98f677a988fb75def6c205d823.jpg)

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Make darn sure before you drill !
Those bolts are not meant to turn. OEM was likely pounded / pressed in to cut the grooves like you see in your old ones.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 05, 2021, 04:20:29 PM
Small update. Called Speedway and talked to one of the experts and he advised me to use a 7/16 20 lug bolt. I tried pressing in with a ball joint press got it almost all the way in may need to use a hydraulic press. But it looks like this size bolt will work.
Does anyone know if the thickness of the head being a problem vs the original that is much flatter? Looking at pictures it doesn't look like it will interfere with anything.

I then cleaned up a little bit of rust  on the drivers frame head n running lights. Just primed it to cover the bear metal. Will clean the frame all the way when i get my bast cabinet set back up.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210405/ddd18bd3fdfdec6810aa3a31a83098b9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210405/2b6c8ff3501125b67d4b35541732703f.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Wittsend on April 06, 2021, 10:39:22 AM
Can't answer your questions but... .  Does it cause anyone else to ponder the fact that we are warned that a microscopic scratch can become a stress riser that can cause a part to fail. Yet lug bolts and a lot of ball joints are pressed in with a multitude of jagged edges?
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Reeves1 on April 06, 2021, 05:06:54 PM
OEM bolts do not need to be pressed in. Yours may be a bit too large.
If you press them in they may fail ? Depends on how much pressure is applied......?
(I would not do so)
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 06, 2021, 07:35:39 PM
OEM bolts do not need to be pressed in. Yours may be a bit too large.
If you press them in they may fail ? Depends on how much pressure is applied......?
(I would not do so)
This is a lug bolt the same as wheel lug bolt. It needs pressed in because of the knurl to keep it in place and not spin when taking on or off the nut. I think it is a little bit harder because it is a new strut arm that hasn't had a lug bolt in it. It has to cut the knurl as you press it.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 23, 2021, 05:46:57 AM
Worked on rear floor pans some tonight. Cleand up some rust and then primed it. Then cut into some rust bubbles to see how far the rust spread. Will have to do some more cutting before I find someone good metal.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210423/b7b234166532db6fed44f55c50f83371.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210423/dd404931b8cfe95844768a2f5e1e3665.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210423/da79d31f27018a293a2da512038fbc78.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210423/f999508e68a8a9764046579b3375da7a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210423/7507281b4e33112e2acd351f941655d1.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 23, 2021, 05:55:02 AM
Here are most of the body rust spots that I will need to cut out and weld in new metal when I get a tank of Co2.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210423/e4a42bcf9c9aeeaf95e1ccf73a37e6a3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210423/8b8934c85121f09459d4f1dc32c6fa90.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210423/bb7b92c537fe8ef81917fbf2cccd2686.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210423/8b8e5d506a01bce9961878eda55e82c0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210423/485a40290fd44ace0e839ef6e25d4acf.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210423/d3b01947b16fa272f73e7fa6a9cebcea.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Wittsend on April 24, 2021, 07:18:54 PM
Just a guess but I'm think that 99% of the time rust rearward of the door/above the sill is from water getting in where the rear, side windows pivot. Maybe if you live were it snows it is different. But my car is Californian and I still have rust there. It looks like there is a box beam behind the rocker and that is why the rust is up high. Another member posted pictures and I'll put some up here.
 My passenger side floor was shot and I made a replacement floor out of sheet. But other smaller areas that aren't too bad I used POR-15 and their mesh. Sounds like a cheap way out but frankly I have had cars 10+ years doing this and it looks like I did it yesterday. Getting too old to think it will matter going forward for me. The picture is dark but all I have. I make the dimples with two different sized sockets on either side of the metal and hit the smaller with a hammer. It worked but it is easy to get the sockets out of alignment (you are doing this blindly) and I permanently marked my index finger when the 5lb hammer slipped and hit my finger!  >:(
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 25, 2021, 05:33:03 AM
Just a guess but I'm think that 99% of the time rust rearward of the door/above the sill is from water getting in where the rear, side windows pivot. Maybe if you live were it snows it is different. But my car is Californian and I still have rust there. It looks like there is a box beam behind the rocker and that is why the rust is up high. Another member posted pictures and I'll put some up here.
 My passenger side floor was shot and I made a replacement floor out of sheet. But other smaller areas that aren't too bad I used POR-15 and their mesh. Sounds like a cheap way out but frankly I have had cars 10+ years doing this and it looks like I did it yesterday. Getting too old to think it will matter going forward for me. The picture is dark but all I have. I make the dimples with two different sized sockets on either side of the metal and hit the smaller with a hammer. It worked but it is easy to get the sockets out of alignment (you are doing this blindly) and I permanently marked my index finger when the 5lb hammer slipped and hit my finger!  >:(
Mine is a cruisen wagon so no windows. Maybe the panels had a leak but also had field Rats and mice in the 30yrs it sat Maybe rat pee?? Also this is an Oklahoma car and still in Oklahoma so no heavy road salt. Also we do get some snow so maybe it froze on the outside in that area or worked its way in. I didn't remember seeing any rust streaks by looking from the inside that area but will double check this week with my Endo scope. Thanks for the suggestion.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Wittsend on April 25, 2021, 02:28:21 PM
That's interesting. Does the Cruise Wagon have the slots cut for the window pivot point with a rubber or plastic plug? Or is there no holes in the area?  My wheel well looks fine, no rust through. Thus the only logical place for water to get in was the window pivots. I wonder if the cars with non-movable rear windows get rust there too???


Now that I think about it..., I have the aluminum trim that sits rather horizontal and can very well become a channel for the water that drips off the windows. There has to be holes to mount that and maybe that is the source of the water??? Ford wanted you to buy a Pinto..., and three years later buy a Mustang. Like they should have cared.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 28, 2021, 06:13:13 AM
That's interesting. Does the Cruise Wagon have the slots cut for the window pivot point with a rubber or plastic plug? Or is there no holes in the area?  My wheel well looks fine, no rust through. Thus the only logical place for water to get in was the window pivots. I wonder if the cars with non-movable rear windows get rust there too???


Now that I think about it..., I have the aluminum trim that sits rather horizontal and can very well become a channel for the water that drips off the windows. There has to be holes to mount that and maybe that is the source of the water??? Ford wanted you to buy a Pinto..., and three years later buy a Mustang. Like they should have cared.
Im not sure I will check tomorrow. I will have to remove the carpet panel inside but ill see what I can see with my endo scope camera first and take some pictures. There was no trim on mine. Im sure someone else might chime in on Cruising Wagons with rust in the same place.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 29, 2021, 11:18:42 PM
I forgot to take my endo scope camera with me but I checked slightly behind the carpet panel. didn't see any rust streaks on the panel or in the lower panel.  Another thought is maybe some water seeped into this seam in the corner of the door frame on the car.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210430/773ffb89fef7f9cb650dc5dceacc8e04.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210430/db6a6d3f7420e869339b944cb4a4be8e.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on June 28, 2021, 11:27:08 AM
Did a little bit of work last night. Was going to install my new from speedway strut arm but the one of the holes on the lower control arm was off by a little bit. I tried with everything loose but didn't work. Looks like i may have to bend it some how to match the original.

Then I cleaned up some more of the passenger fender area also removed the brake cooler box then primed and sprayed undercoating. Didn't spray the bumper bracket yet going to remove it and clean it up.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210628/7e64e29bc2f891debc7920eb19ba7e36.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210628/58afc7777462dbf9de03492268cbd131.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210628/84bd1d86e1f53def0acbc9d491769f4a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210628/d5bc65c4127e05dadf48e2fe46475fc8.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Reeves1 on June 30, 2021, 02:20:38 PM
Lower control arm should move enough to line the holes up....
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: TIGGER on July 02, 2021, 02:28:35 PM
That's interesting. Does the Cruise Wagon have the slots cut for the window pivot point with a rubber or plastic plug? Or is there no holes in the area?  My wheel well looks fine, no rust through. Thus the only logical place for water to get in was the window pivots. I wonder if the cars with non-movable rear windows get rust there too???


Now that I think about it..., I have the aluminum trim that sits rather horizontal and can very well become a channel for the water that drips off the windows. There has to be holes to mount that and maybe that is the source of the water??? Ford wanted you to buy a Pinto..., and three years later buy a Mustang. Like they should have cared.

When you take the side panels off it basically looks like a window wagon minus windows with a few additional holes for the hardware to secure the side panels onto the car.  You could theoretically take the side panels off and put glass back in if you wanted.  Everything is there.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on September 22, 2021, 11:20:58 PM
Ok an update have only done some small stuff. I got the driver's spring readjusted was not in the bottom grove properly and got the upper n lower ball joint connected to the spindle. Then just clean n primed and undercoated the lower radiator support. Also sprayed flex seal on my hood hinge boots. Drivers boot was in good shape no rips. passengers boot is alot worse them a big split. I got both cleaned n coated l got 2 coats on both but will have to work with the passenger one to get the crack sealed. But this is my update incase anyone was wondering.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210923/7f3d6ab9f8319f104eb8046390f5c687.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210923/31ce6bca9d43f563afad6e2dba8a0772.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210923/680510d733f46e01b1d05cc895652d92.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210923/e8eb9d7f2ad1f203bffa9efd9cc63b95.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210923/4be836073adef30e25cb8e96109c9827.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210923/a5ba520eb1f356c86d59528c3586d2e5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210923/40409f22680328cb67b818455a020bf5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210923/1a5f226b9ecc246fbdedc2177f9aa0bf.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Wittsend on September 23, 2021, 10:40:15 AM
It will be interesting to see how the Flex Seal hold up. why do I see an image of Phil Swift spraying a Pinto with Flex Seal and driving it across a lake. LOL You might consider model aircraft fiberglass with Flex Seal applied as a possibility for the holes in the boots. Maybe it is something that can also be 3D printed? There are a number of "rubbery" plastics available.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on September 23, 2021, 06:32:03 PM
Lol on the flex seal Pinto. I have some fiberglass drywall tape maybe that will work place on the inside then coat it.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on October 03, 2021, 02:25:57 AM
Worked on scraping some seam sealer inside the floor area no picture. Then decide on cleaning the underside on drivers rear passenger floor. I used a sanding sponge to clean up then mineral spirits to clean. I put down primer in preparation for undercoating with truck bed liner. Forgot a pic of the primer. Only worked this small area for now.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211003/102e3344843b145506d18dc322216364.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211003/2915c82c4c80c8d0bf96c16503035996.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211003/01141798d3ac01d01abb04720d3e5c4a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211003/b4232b5c32790a6e93512a59af8ce2f2.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on December 03, 2021, 02:42:12 AM
Dropped the fuel tank tonight still had around
8 or 9 gallons left inside for 32yrs. Smells amazing lol. Cleaned the rust off one of the tank straps then primed all of it except where the bolt was just need to remove it just got tired and will do it later. Just need to clean up the underside now for undercoating(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211203/66c5dd6e3e5ad41d49a993608cec060a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211203/276fe121de6301fd4ee8281e11a36de1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211203/74c06ae6f0aa441b187e6143b8b70a48.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211203/dae055dda4cee9658b2c3bf4671b374d.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on February 11, 2022, 12:03:04 AM
Did some more light sanding, primed n undercoating on the rear spare tire area, also removed the muffler still along ways to go cleaning and undercoating (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220211/601c89b4ebc7eac526b957bb71810d6b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220211/2d8e3588f8de743089ba781fdc4b6705.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220211/6539fbf17927739f118b69253bf70c26.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on February 12, 2022, 03:12:25 AM
Did some cancer(rust)  removal to see how far some of it has spread. Have only the before picture of the rear passenger fender area. Will post later and after picture.
I know my cuts aren't perfect but more of exploring. Will make cuts better when i get my welder up and running. Fun part will be the wheel well area since there are 2 sheets of metal 1 inside and 1 outside (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220212/8d41e91d174932b83985e8172420731c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220212/d7f34ed6664b12dd11e3bed991a3b2b2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220212/54e994a7cb42b6fb2ab27ace514d6769.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on March 14, 2022, 07:54:01 PM
Here is the after picture that i forgot on the post above. Also 2 pics of what i got done so far on the rear spare tire area.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220315/ca8ed3cb50e5572b8484ddd7e7398c03.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220315/c25c1f8865664910fdb9d434d10fda42.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220315/3bd6640e7263712571b4cc20c835148c.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on June 28, 2022, 10:51:52 PM
Another update. Still working on the underside. Using sanding sponges to sand the dirt type grit and lite surface rust. I finally finished removing the driveline attached to the axle, wasn't worried about it till now. Its in my way for sanding. Just removed the 2 u brackets.
Also removed the last exhaust hanger. Sanded,cleaned then primed the area between the spare tire and rear axle.
Also was pulling out old mouse nest debris thats inside the frame. Had to be careful lol was pulling stuff out and stabbed my finger on a 30yr old sticker. Found several more after that. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220629/07da1eb2ea553565be8ba61048844279.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220629/d1fd01c19a2de3124021d59f19266f6e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220629/eb3cbd5086b378392bc1674268ac0ecd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220629/7355abed97891aa32e3d1299dfce8ec9.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on July 04, 2022, 10:34:42 PM
Did a little more work today was able to Barrow a cherry picker and pull the engine had everything disconnected a while back was just sitting on the motor mounts. Bought a engine stand today also. Will get the engine on the stand this weekend once I buy some bolts to mount it to. Decided to remove the clutch and flywheel.  The clutch was supposedly the reason the car was parked. Will post this weekend with an update. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220705/6c4374ceaf2f699d2cbf86b63ea6d2fe.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220705/9e84dbb2737227b637ff4ef480e6b55c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220705/5197cadef2c713f994e06f2eda3bfe9c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220705/21ffe42e82462569e3f743ffaffa0d13.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220705/68df0b306557c35521e312e70a917613.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Dtmix on July 05, 2022, 07:15:22 PM
Slowly but surely! You are making progress! I cannot wait to see the final product!😀

Keep up the great work! Keep up with your ongoing commentary!

Happy Motoring!
Dan
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on July 05, 2022, 07:46:59 PM
Slowly but surely! You are making progress! I cannot wait to see the final product!

Keep up the great work! Keep up with your ongoing commentary!

Happy Motoring!
Dan
Thanks will do. Yes it is a slow process 6yrs so far since I moved the car and started working on it.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on July 16, 2022, 11:55:20 AM
Got the engine stand put together and got the engine on it finally. Was a little weird because holes are not exactly even on the back of the motor. I just took the adapter plate off the stand and was able to find the right position. Ran out of time to do anything else. But will go back to it in the next day or two.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220716/f0d57f5dec694206820c78a2ae3dde55.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220716/e1659b3db6f4c3d6a104d56ed35e2209.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on July 19, 2022, 08:06:32 AM
Worked on striping down the engine. Took the valve cover off and it looks good for sitting for 30 plus yrs.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220719/8bd87f7c829f661cbb94a8b3b225ee7a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220719/e4c14a55cb5d61be57d2a7fff78a5b85.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220719/d21df9b18867e76977c77152d0f16afa.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220719/6ca4ec85e9f5b877298291b2861b6edb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220719/35fde271551b4ca8258f0a9633e0c5c0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220719/33b9dd205f7a9a529627461e422a43ac.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on November 09, 2022, 12:29:16 PM
Small update working some more on underside cleaning, priming, n undercoating around the transmission tunnel. Also the product im using. It works fairly well but make sure that you wear gloves and keep a rag or paper towel close to wipe of the nozzle,  tend to build up by it. If you have any questions feel free to ask. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221109/07e162e4f1106d3246c4c43c8ef0201d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221109/fc39a963640ea956fd6a16023afe4c90.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221109/79fa1fdd7014bab813f19d270f51fd1f.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: rob289c on November 17, 2022, 04:21:43 PM
This quite a project you have going and I don't know how I have missed your posts.  Had I noticed it sooner I would have compared notes with you with the project I have going on.  Yours looks to be a straight resto, while mine is re-using as much as I could from my rotted out Pinto to make an oddball car.  I will follow this as you progress.

One question:  what did you have to do to get your strut rod and lower control arm holes to line up?  I also bought the Speedway arms and they too seem to be off by a little bit.  I think I can tweak them but wondering what you ended up doing.  Mine came with the press in studs too but I am going to use Grade 8 bolts instead as I am going to be bolting the sway bar mount on top of the strut rods and the studs won't be long enough to accommodate bot the rod and mount.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on November 18, 2022, 04:40:54 PM
Rob thanks. I plan on doing a few mods to the car more electronic side. The strut rod on the passenger side I still haven't messed with it yet. I plan to tweak it with a long cheater bar in very near future. I still don't have a tank for my welder, but I'm working on that next wk.
Like I said I welcome any questions it keeps me motivated.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: rob289c on November 27, 2022, 09:22:06 AM
I have some comments on the strut rod issue.  It looks like you have one factory rod and one that you bought at Speedway.  I didn't think I needed my old strut rods and gave them away but unfortunately I found that the kit I bought from Speedway that didn't require strut rods, when I attempted to install I found out that the Speedway kit doesn't work with a stock Pinto Crossmember.  I had to go another route with different lower control arms.  I am finding that other parts that Speedway lists for Pinto and Mustang II only work with the Speedway or Heidt's crossmembers, not the factory stock crossmember.  That is true for the strut rods that you and I purchased.  The speedway arm isn't designed to work with the factory frame.  The Speedway frame has a different mounting bracket and doesn't go through the frame like the factory configuration.  I think if I put mine in the vice and heat to cherry red, I will be able to bend it slightly to make it line up with the factory frame mount.  The good news is that the mounting holes in the strut rod line up with the holes in the Speedway lower control arm...you just cant bolt it on because the angle is wrong to get it to line up with the frame mount.  Other than the angle being different, do you see any other differences from the factory rod?  Is the overall length the same?  Are the Speedway bushings the same as the factory bushings?  Mine old ones are long gone. 

I looked back and saw that I had offered my old strut rods to you in an earlier post before I gave them away to someone else.  I wish I had kept them!  I also wish I had researched and asked more questions about the Speedway parts.  I assumed that they could be used with a factory crossmember but they don't.  I asked the sales rep if the kit would...he assured me it would and even passed me to a tech support specialist and I told him what I had and he too assured me it would all work together just fine.  I know better now.  I thought if anything on my project would be a no-brain, bolt-together endeavor, it would be bolting the front suspension together.   It isn't...
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on November 30, 2022, 04:25:22 PM
Rob i still have my factory one. Everything is the same except the angle. The bushing end was why I was changing mine out. Its still solid but do you think it had rusted to much to be usable?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221130/e4ab365c68734ad17f84939c78075f98.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221130/f569634b5fb10684386f7387f3982afc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221130/be61752487ed1c10df1976ac888fb4ba.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Reeves1 on December 02, 2022, 12:54:55 PM
Take the new ones to a machine shop & have them bent to the right angle ?
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: rob289c on December 02, 2022, 06:44:28 PM
I have an oxy-acetylene torch that would heat them cherry-red in seconds and they would easily bend.  By this time tomorrow I should have my old strut rods back.  I contacted the guy I gave the remnants of my Pinto to and he said I can have them back.  I will be stopping by his brothers farm where my old Pinto is and grab the parts I need.  The lower control arms, including the strut rods are in the hatch area so I will throw them in the back of the pickup and disassemble when I get them home.  Hopefully they are where I left them.  I will see if Speedway will take back the ones I bought.  Store credit will be fine as I will be buying more parts as I continue on my project.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Reeves1 on December 03, 2022, 12:59:02 PM
Heat them like that will weaken the metal.

I'll buy them if you'll ship to Alberta ! I was going to buy some anyway....PM me if you want ?
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: rob289c on December 07, 2022, 08:05:07 AM
Reeves1: I have decided there is too much corrosion in the bushing area of my OEM strut rods so I am going to use the Speedway rods after bending to the correct angle and transferring the sway bar end like mounts to the Speedway rods.

Warhead2: I attached a pic of my rods OEM vs Speedway that shows the different angle between the two.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: rob289c on December 11, 2022, 06:37:06 AM
Yesterday I bolted my OEM and Speedway strut rods together, put them in the vice, heated, then bent to the proper angle.  I test fit the Speedway rods to see how they line up with the lower control arms, frame, and sway bar links and everything appears to be fine.  Just letting you know in case you want to try it on yours.  I don't think you will be able to bend the Speedway rod without applying heat first. Until I get my coil springs to the right height and get weight on them, I'm not going to final assemble and torque anything. That will be done in the Spring.  I am just test fitting and finger-tightening parts at this point.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: dga57 on December 11, 2022, 05:25:58 PM
That will be done in the Spring.  I am just test fitting and finger-tightening parts at this point.

Experimentatio n still counts as progress in my book!

Dwayne :)
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on January 04, 2023, 12:35:14 PM
Looks good on the strut arm.
Small update did so rust removal on drivers side floor pan. Did have a whole lot of time so will finish it another day. One picture is the the frame rail and all the stuff field mice/ rats stuffed in there over the yrs. Thats all for now Happy new year everyone.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230104/94f7300696b1d00dc412117b42982347.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230104/76deaf573aeeef865be60c379304d2e4.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: rob289c on January 07, 2023, 05:52:45 PM
Rusty floor work...nasty job!  I had to do the passenger side front floor pan in my Mustang.  Pinto was too far gone to salvage.  Using what I could for my Mustang/Pinto Roadster Project.  Lots of fab and welding ahead for you...
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: firepinto on January 08, 2023, 06:23:28 PM
My floors are about as bad.  I have some ebay reproduction floor pans still in the box that I have to get to soon.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on January 09, 2023, 11:47:16 PM
The passenger is worse. I have bought floorpans from Joe Bayura. They are not to bad of a reproduction. I still have a long way to go but trying to stay motivated. But as long as I keep doing something to the car its one less thing(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230110/a7205569c98b8c43f0921473fab92764.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Wittsend on January 10, 2023, 11:53:31 AM
My passenger side was bad too. Likely because water leaks in the car and puddles there due to road camber. I took a sheet of steel and fashioned it to fit in the area cut out. I put a few dimples in it using a larger/smaller socket on each side, guestimating they were centered and hitting the upper socket with a 5 pound hammer. Worked Ok, but not the best. Stopped when I missed the hit and tweaked my index finger. Overall the repair works and has held for years. I just hate (MIG) welding thin metal to somewhat suspect old metal. There is a fine line between cold welds and holes blown in the metal. 20 years of doing it and I still dread the process.









Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on January 14, 2023, 10:55:33 AM
I did a little cutting of the rust, then cut down the new floorpan. I need to trim it a little more but so far so good. Also nicked my thumb with the grinder when I turned it off.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230114/cb5c5cfe5999bac4ad406a9ec80594a9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230114/0407a542d825b3f8a00693d4f4b1f404.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230114/8ea6be1e0dbdeddefb66465762a5a93a.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Wittsend on January 14, 2023, 01:44:30 PM
No one gets out without paying "Skin Dues." I was building a Tiny House with my daughter . I was using a push stick on the tablesaw, but I had my index finger extended too far. I was also holding the push stick too high. When it caught the blade the stick slammed my finger down into it. Honestly the physical pain was 5 on a scale of 10. The financial pain was an 11 on a scale of 10. 45 minutes in the ER for 4 stiches and the bill was $5,600! We went back and fourth with the hospital but it still cost $2,200. The young Dr. suggested I could return to the hospital to get the stiches removed. Not after that bill. I took them out myself.

Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: rob289c on January 14, 2023, 03:21:51 PM
Ouch!  I know what you mean about the physical pain not what one would think.  Several years ago I detached my right distal bicep tendon.  It felt like a rubberband snapped on my arm...not much pain but freaked me out when my bicep was up near my shoulder!  Got it fixed and is as good as new.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Reeves1 on January 15, 2023, 12:02:54 PM
Rusty floor work...nasty job!  I had to do the passenger side front floor pan in my Mustang.  Pinto was too far gone to salvage.  Using what I could for my Mustang/Pinto Roadster Project.  Lots of fab and welding ahead for you...

What year Pinto ? I need some parts... 71-72
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: rob289c on January 16, 2023, 07:44:13 PM
Mine was (I guess still is) a 1980.  I held on to parts I have used, will use, and might use on my current project.  I gave a lot away, and then gave what was left of the body to a local guy that had a Pinto.  What parts do you need?
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on January 17, 2023, 12:21:55 AM
Did some work to passenger floor. Cut out some rust. Only worked on it for a little bit tonight. No grinder injuries lol but wore thicker gloves just incase.
Cardboard under car just for spark defelting
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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: rob289c on January 17, 2023, 07:53:20 PM
The frame rail looks pretty solid.  Good thing.  I'm looking forward to Spring so I can get back on my project...
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Reeves1 on January 18, 2023, 08:49:05 AM
Mine was (I guess still is) a 1980.  I held on to parts I have used, will use, and might use on my current project.  I gave a lot away, and then gave what was left of the body to a local guy that had a Pinto.  What parts do you need?

Lower (cable) steering shaft
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: rob289c on January 18, 2023, 06:48:13 PM
Reeves1: Not sure what you mean by lower (cable) steering shaft.  I attached pics of my steering shaft but I don't knw what you mean by the cable.  Wiring harness? 
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on January 18, 2023, 10:58:01 PM
Rob for most part the front floorpans were only part that was really rusty the underside of the car is good along with frame. But rust in normal spots like lower panels in different spots and bottomms of doors. This has always been an Oklahoma car so no big problem with salts on the road.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: rob289c on January 19, 2023, 04:17:03 PM
That's good...mine was a NY rust bucket...lived near Buffalo, and spent several years sitting in dirt before I rescued it.  It was a good donor for my project, but too far gone to restore or try to get roadworthy.  Parts of it will live on in a different form.  It's the closest I will get to re-living my Pinto Youth of the 1980's...
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on January 19, 2023, 11:49:54 PM
Yeah I may be the youngest here lol I'm 39 will be 40 in June. But my car was owned by my dad and I remember riding in this car at 4yrs old. So it holds a big spot in my heart. Can't wait for the first time  i get to drive it.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Wittsend on January 20, 2023, 10:12:48 AM
I find it amazing that some families (still) have cars going back to their childhood. My first 10 years were spent in New Jersey. My father went through a 57 Plymouth, 60 Falcon wagon and a Chevy wagon in that time. The Plymouth and the Falcon both had the engines die. I don't think my father ever changed oil. A divorce and move to So. Cal. provided company cars for my step-father. So, none of those cars ever stuck around.

I've had 10 daily drivers in my live and about 5 collector cars I wanted to be daily drivers - but that didn't work out and each was a DD for far less than a year. I've had 10-15 collector cars 7 of which I still possess. The closest thing I have to a heirloom car is my friend bought a 1973 Datsun 510 new. He kept modifying it until it was basically a race car on the street. Smog laws had it parked by 1982. In 1998 he said if I wanted it I could come and get it. Smog laws became more favorable and in 2002 I put it back on the road. By then I was older, it was a harsh ride, smelled of gas all the time and it felt more like a noisy go-cart. By 2006 it was back off the road. But I spent many a night in that car in my late teens/early 20's cruising the streets and looking the part of COOL. So, I guess you could say THAT Datsun 510 is my equivalent  "family heirloom" car. I still have THAT car today.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: rob289c on January 21, 2023, 04:22:16 PM
I'll be 62 in April and my 67 Mustang Fastback and this "thing" I'm building will become heirlooms.  I think my son or daughter and son-in-law will want the Fastback, but I'm not sure if any of them will want the current project.  They would probably be too embarrassed to drive it or even been seen in or near it. :)  I've had the Fastback since before either of them were born.  This year it will be 29 years...time flies!  I wish I had a few of my other rides from over the years...
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on January 21, 2023, 05:32:49 PM
Only did a little triming last night.  Need a smaller cutting wheel so I can get in so tighter corners.

I make the 4th owner of my pinto 1st was the guy who bought it new only drove it a few 1000s mile and traded it back in then my Dad then around 89 my Dad and uncle did a even car swap,  my uncle drove it less that 2000 mile and clutch went out so he parked it. Then asked me if I wanted it in around 99 but I never started on it until like 2004 rust removal of carpet and seats then 2016 was finely able to get it moved to a friend's house and started working on it.
 
Hopefully your kids take some interest (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230121/ffc4bb02d835f1a9c3413ed34b175103.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: rob289c on January 22, 2023, 08:41:47 AM
Every little bit of progress gets you closer to the end.  My Mustang restoration was a 14-year project.  I started on the thing I'm working on in late 2019 after acquiring the back half of the Mustang several years prior, and the Pinto at least 2-years prior, along with parts collection along the way.  Work, Family, $$$, and other life events get in the way of quick resto projects.  Keep at it...
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on February 08, 2023, 12:50:44 PM
Did some more work. Took off the rockers arms and removed the lifters. Then I cut out some of the rusty battery fender area out. Still have more to cut but need smaller cutting wheel to get into tighter areas. Also I'm getting my co2 tank for my welder, I'm excited  about this, I have been procrastinatin g about getting it. Bought my mig welder 2yrs ago on sale.  I'm ready after practicing for a little bit to start replacing metal. My goal is to have it running and almost drivable by end of the yr. May not be 100% done but this is my goal.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230208/e2e2e3297c257655d4725927efeb330d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230208/bd00a37085afe43f3ee6433b59c6f0de.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230208/db52f9a806dead1b88f4716e52d2c414.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230208/f7b56fc85f6d80786bc800382c8e8eb4.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Wittsend on February 09, 2023, 11:01:56 AM
Not sure what your plans are but when I went to the 2.3 Turbo in my 2.0 '73 wagon I replaced a considerable portion of the battery area and relocated the battery at the front of the drivers side. It made a lot more room for the turbo and with the wagon the trunk (or better said the lack of one) didn't offer that option. It was at least 15 years ago so I can't tell exactly how I did it but the pictures should help.





Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on February 12, 2023, 09:41:33 PM
Witt I plan on using the original 2.3 with some simple mods to boost HP like ranger cam n rockers and 2in exhaust .  I would love to get an 2.3 turbo  one day .


Got my 80cfu co2/argon mix bottle. Then started removing my valve springs got 2 off so far(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230213/f64e0f3b9587476a2e8e071f7396fc70.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230213/1a9031e8bb599547be49a30e04de94eb.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Wittsend on February 13, 2023, 12:55:39 PM
I fill my bottle very infrequently (of late about every 5 years). As best I can tell yours looks LOOK the same size. Mine is about 3 feet tall. It was $60 the last time - about a year ago. I was SO GLAD I upgraded from the tiny bottle I use to have (about 18") to what I have now. At the time it was only $30 to upgrade. How many pounds of pressure do you weld with? I'm typically between 5-10 PSI depending upon (light) wind, and my fear I'm not using enough..., or inversely running out of gas before the project ends.

If you are getting the cam out of a self serve wrecker make sure you take something to get the Phillips screws out of the rear retaining piece on the back cam tower. I wound up using a variable screw driver set Phillips bit (about 1" long), a stick of wood to pry holding pressure on said bit and an adjustable open end (Crescent) wrench to rotate the bit in the tight confines between the tower and the firewall. And frankly it was nerve wracking as to whether the screw would strip, the bit would break or the wrench would slip over the hex of the bit. Some say it doesn't matter but I would bring 12 pre-numbered Baggies for the rockers too.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on February 14, 2023, 08:13:37 PM
Witt I haven't welded anything yet just hooked up the tank. I looked up the setting most were say 18 -22 cfh for a 1/2 nozzle higher if you are outside with wind max 30cfh. My tank is 3ft tall its 80 cubic ft

Definitely will keep the screwdriver bit driver in mind for when I go to the junk yard

I definitely have lots of ziplocs full of parts and with papers identified where they came from

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on February 18, 2023, 04:38:01 PM
Took the cam out, and almost got all the valve springs out, also got the mig welder all set up now. Had a funny thought is call the welder the spicy metal glue gun lol.
The Phillips screws that hold the cam came out easily.
I was able to get all the head bolts loose but one. I sprayed it with oil, need to get a cheater bar on it. Does these sleeves look normal? I'm going to switch cams and would need to put new sleeves in. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230218/a5495a7ed72a6b5cee7fbcaba45280af.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230218/27c9dfcd564fad5a24b0f1b05d12eee7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230218/5fe8690292780c0d9ef3407059b4d4a2.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on February 20, 2023, 12:10:53 PM
Got all the springs out, messed with the one head bolt that is not moving. Still can't get it to move it feels like it moves just bearly when I tighten it then try to loosen it. I had sprayed PB Blaster on the very top of the bolt but there was still oil sitting there. I took a pick and went around the edge of the head of the bolt maybe moving some oil gunk so it can hopefully get down there. But I did notice that where one of the exhaust header bolt gos to the block, at the back of the hole is the head bolt. So I sprayed some PB in there hopefully that will work better since its much closer to the threads. We will see Friday.  I do have a impact but only had a 13mm chrome socket 3/8 with an 1/2 adapter, I tried it briefly but didn't want to mess it up.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230220/91f0664057901a0f47f5c4148c40b3c2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230220/48accea7b2628e48eb40a0fdc46b02e5.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on March 04, 2023, 12:21:33 PM
SUCCESS!!!! finally got this stubborn head bolt out. Tried the impact several times no luck then Tried the breaker bar and it moved a little made me scared for a second,  thought I might be rounding the head or The bolt was about to snap or the socket was about to twist off the bar. Checked the head and the socket n bar all were good. So I continued slowly. The bolt kept moving with a few loud snaps then it continued to turn. But I got it out and looked at the threads were full of carbon as you can see in the picture and a picture the hole had a bunch of carbon powder in it.  Compared to the other bolt the threads were clean. Also took the head off pistons and walls don't look bad for sitting since 1989 and 40,000 miles.  The head came off easily used a block of wood and 5lb sledge hammer to tap both sides then at the corners upwards. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230304/cf2d2e3288f88e1314635a2db957d8c6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230304/f0e3c3f99ca5f6b068d3cb970c92eae0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230304/89b8308d065181b25fde99646388cce7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230304/e74a4d22340db66e29cd242202fec1f4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230304/c3d52ed534ed25c08b5040617d1ff2ae.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230304/f12e38fc8c73a25eaed38a74c6b6efe3.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: rob289c on March 04, 2023, 07:51:59 PM
You're going way further on you r engine than I am going on mine.  I don't know the condition of my engine but after driving it I will soon know how much oil it uses.  I should replace the valve stem seals since they came with the engine gasket kit but I've never done them and really don't want to mess with the valve train at this point. 
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on March 04, 2023, 11:21:36 PM
You're going way further on you r engine than I am going on mine.  I don't know the condition of my engine but after driving it I will soon know how much oil it uses.  I should replace the valve stem seals since they came with the engine gasket kit but I've never done them and really don't want to mess with the valve train at this point.
Yeah I what to strip it and get the block dipped to get it cleaned inside and out, since it has sat for 34yrs. With the block cleaned im going to paint it. You can get a cheap borescope on Amazon that you can connect to your phone and inspect the pistons thru the spark plug holes

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on March 05, 2023, 10:11:40 PM
Not much to report but I finely used my welder to practice for a little bit.  Been 15yrs since I mig welded
Was practicing on 22 gauge metal. Not too bad lol(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230306/aebf3779434331e6a63063f89ecef665.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230306/c3fbf9c3f147465c0a1112b9a85b1171.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Reeves1 on March 06, 2023, 10:24:53 AM
Get more grinding/sanding disks  ;D
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on March 08, 2023, 07:37:02 AM
Get more grinding/sanding disks  ;D
Definitely lol

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on March 10, 2023, 09:17:23 PM
Got the oil pan off tonight. Everything looks good for sitting so long  but it also had oil in it so that helps.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230311/f89c25d24e82f875cf7230ab87048d58.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230311/91fd161a9a17fea684fd94b094b4f6c4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230311/3cc2283d9152083eddd73b7f18ef32c5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230311/3de3b9ae575aa49a00012bc13b5b1c07.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Wittsend on March 11, 2023, 11:30:07 AM
Yes, engine looks clean! Not sure what OP gasket your engine had, but if it was the silicone type there might be sticker shock. Nearly 15 years ago it was $25. I reused mine after some here said they also had. Engine is now 35 years old and the gasket is still holding up. If I recall correctly (it has been a long time and I'm getting older) there are metal inserts so the gasket doesn't get crushed. If you can evenly file them down a bit it would help to tighten up the gasket.


BTW, how is the sheet metal replacement going? I'm months into replacing the floors in my Corvair station wagon. I'm making the floors out of galvanized roofing. It is a s-l-o-w process.



Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on March 12, 2023, 12:30:14 PM
Looking good Witt . I haven't messed with sheet metal in the last few wks. Getting closer to start replacing metal. Just got my welder all set up need to get an auto darking helmet to help with getting lined up.

Witt don't know if you know but you have to be careful welding galvanized metal it releases a toxic gas when its welded on.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Wittsend on March 13, 2023, 11:06:26 AM
Yes, thanks for the health tip. As it is the welds come out like crap unless I grind the zinc from the weld site. There are over 200 welds so far and nothing has happened. I have all the doors open and I have to wait between welds for the heat to subside. Basically I lean in, weld for a few seconds then I'm out of the car.

 What I find odd is that a lot of people recommend "Weld Thru" Primer - which is zinc. But they never say anything about the vapors when they recommend that. Based on an article I read some guy said that the 95% zinc paint was similar and he used that. I tried a light coat of that and wound up trashing my first panel when half the welds were bad. When I'm done I will pour thinned paint around all the weld sites and let gravity do its work to creep into the creases. The factory never used weld thru primer on these old cars. Both sides will get Rustolium and the bottom undercoat. Never snows here, hardly ever rains and I never have the old cars out when it does.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on March 14, 2023, 04:18:41 PM
Got the inside of the oil pan cleaned up. Still need to clean the outside. The bag is the bolts for the pan(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230314/703fc9e2bedbcf88e3e4fbe7bfd2a1b1.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on March 27, 2023, 12:32:56 AM
Finally got the crankshaft pulley off. After trying several things. I tried using a rubber strap wrench but that didn't work. I was able put socket extensions thru the engine stand and into the rear crankshaft flywheel holes. Was able to stop the crankshaft from moving.  Also took out the oil pump shaft and noticed some of the teeth are chipped.  So far the only bad part that I have found on the engine. Kind of weird being only 40k miles on the motor. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230327/3e247ad266a33ae2e3b6647049a5b18b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230327/2c15de30ab2331b7f3ebbc47e81ab60b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230327/b7f0a7597e4a3ab0e58bdc38df70cde1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230327/ab75243ac61b170c7e2525e7f7f58f8b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230327/651c0f60a64813d5c81bcdd81877f041.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230327/74c89b7329ae7ba9c248309dfef684c5.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Wittsend on March 27, 2023, 12:06:31 PM
Maybe it was a casting flaw that broke off under use. Or, maybe that tooth was ground slightly off and broke the first time it turned??? Goes the other gear show any markings from the broken tooth? If not it might be an indicator that it can be reused. ... (moments later) I never had one that far apart. Is that the drive gear for the distributor?
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on March 29, 2023, 11:18:22 PM
Witt its the auxiliary shaft. And it runs the distributor. I forgot to check it after I saw this but ill check it Friday.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 02, 2023, 09:33:26 PM
Witt I checked my distributor gear and it only had 2 little marks on the gear(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230403/3424749ea689e2e932f267106696f18b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230403/1ca7851f6d29b015a04e571614724ce3.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 02, 2023, 09:39:47 PM
Took out the crankshaft and pistons, 3 out of the 4 pistons had the Top gas ring broke.
At first I thought I broke one of the piston rings but
After looking closely on the side you can see carbon
Build up from the ring being broken. And the piston that didn't have any broken rings is much cleaner.
Also took out all the freeze plugs. Now the block is completely stripped and ready for the shop to get it cleaned. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230403/ee7797158a5aa6c104a9b27d935774d9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230403/95600c674178aa869b0e906336c77c1e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230403/37eedf0bdc85a90dda3b0fd0d2227500.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230403/0fd9e71923fe3a58fe5b97b3a6193ac3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230403/decbb41b0063b93001c21f99540343fb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230403/ec77fa49b41f2dea4f819327cbdc7f95.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 23, 2023, 05:32:02 PM
Not much to update just did some cleaning.
Do have a tool review i bought this from Harbor freight
Its the Quinn scraper tool it comes with 2 stainless steel  blades 1 plastic blade and 1 Razor blade
It has 3 positions it can extend too. Works really well scraping dirt n grime on parts or on the underside of the car with the steel blades. Price was around $13 or $14. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230423/8b610cfeb01269cf14d5bdaf86a6f14b.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on May 31, 2023, 06:50:13 PM
Another small update removed the inner fender battery plate drilling out the spot welds and help from an air chisel. Getting closer to start welding. This will be my first patch of meny.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230531/4763f488cc6430c5c76cf43325495ba2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230531/f4eaaf9e32bdf5eef90d81d882901391.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on October 04, 2023, 10:29:37 AM
Sry haven't updated in several months. Got some welding done on the battery tray area. I know its not pretty but don't have a work bench or vice to help with bending metal. Its slow but I'm getting there(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231004/4848065574f0b936ae8866015e54c1b5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231004/56af75e2d593f30226ea89e5b3bc0e56.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231004/cf6dec5fc39438390503ecb1c51275a9.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: rob289c on October 04, 2023, 11:00:23 AM
Glad to see you're still on your project.  I almost sent a reply over the weekend to see if there were updates.  I figured you'd let us know when you had something to post so I didn't bug you.  You had the motor apart...how did that end up?  I am trying to get enough other things done on mine so I can try to start it before I have to put it away for the Winter.  I don't want to leap frog other tasks and get the project out of synch.  I really want to hear it run after getting the timing spot on.  It should be better than it was when I got it!

Keep going and keep us posted.  We learn from each other...
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on October 04, 2023, 08:53:25 PM
Glad to see you're still on your project.  I almost sent a reply over the weekend to see if there were updates.  I figured you'd let us know when you had something to post so I didn't bug you.  You had the motor apart...how did that end up?  I am trying to get enough other things done on mine so I can try to start it before I have to put it away for the Winter.  I don't want to leap frog other tasks and get the project out of synch.  I really want to hear it run after getting the timing spot on.  It should be better than it was when I got it!

Keep going and keep us posted.  We learn from each other...
Thanks Rob I haven't done anything else with the motor yet. I want the block dipped cleaned and possibly get the block n head milled possibly just so its even. But if I do that I'm not sure what all I need to do, because it Changes things. I'm no expert on rebuilding engines, I understand the basics. I have a friend that is a certified mechanic that I'm going to ask for his help.
Don't be afraid to ask questions your not bugging me, I've been trying to work on it every Friday and Sunday now that the temps are cooling off will be more pleasant to work on it maybe get more done. My goal is to have it running by December 31 but not done or street legal.

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 03, 2024, 08:02:32 AM
Not alot to update on, haven't done much. Just little more underside cleaning then primer then undercoating.  Also cut out this piece of rust under the passenger backseat area.  I just got my welding Co2 tank filled back up after I made the mistake of leaving it on. I welded one wk came back a wk later went to turn the tank on and was like why is it so hard to turn on? Then it hit me to try and turn it the other way. I'm not going to make that mistake again. Luckily its not a very expensive one only $35 to fill back up. 

Now I have it filled back up I can start welding again. Yay. Thats all for now (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240403/dd172d0641cb922a197ad2ea74a3aa0e.jpg)

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Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: Wittsend on April 04, 2024, 03:29:42 PM


I just got my welding Co2 tank filled back up after I made the mistake of leaving it on. I welded one wk came back a wk later went to turn the tank on and was like why is it so hard to turn on? Then it hit me to try and turn it the other way. I'm not going to make that mistake again. Luckily its not a very expensive one only $35 to fill back up. 

How big is your tank? Mine is roughly a 6" diameter and 24"" tall (less the valve). Back in 2020 it cost me  $62 for Argon/Co2. Here in California a bit more than half that cost is the gas itself, the rest are "fees." But, yea, I HATE when the tank is left open. Talk about "throwing your money to the wind." Now I close the valve and check it at least three times and then every day for about three days after. The good news is that (assuming I have closed the valve) I get well over 5 years out of a tank, but that is also a testament to what I'm NOT getting done. :(

  I just got my welding Co2 tank filled back up after I made the mistake of leaving it on. I welded one wk came back a wk later went to turn the tank on and was like why is it so hard to turn on? Then it hit me to try and turn it the other way. I'm not going to make that mistake again. Luckily its not a very expensive one only $35 to fill back up. 


How big is your tank? Mine is roughly a 6" diameter and 24"" tall (less the valve). Back in 2020 it cost me  $62 for Argon/Co2. Here in California a bit more than half that cost is the gas itself, the rest are "fees." But, yea, I HATE when the tank is left open. Talk about "throwing your money to the wind." Now I close the valve and check it at least three times and then every day for about three days after. The good news is that (assuming I have closed the valve) I get well over 5 years out of a tank, but that is also a testament to what I'm NOT getting done.  :(


Oh, and also, YET AGAIN I type in the typing pane and it shows as a 10 point font (I left it to be seen - or better said not). Yet when it posts it is tiny to the max! I have to copy the whole text, reset it to 10 point and only then is it correct.
Title: Re: Project Warhead
Post by: warhead2 on April 04, 2024, 07:56:25 PM
My tank is 80 CF almost 3ft tall 32in. Yeah after this mess up I'm definitely checking it twice. Also I'm in Oklahoma,  so not alot of BS fees added on for refill.


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