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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #150 on: December 18, 2022, 11:41:28 AM »
Always good when a DMV story turns out right. Glad it worked out for you.

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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #151 on: December 19, 2022, 08:05:01 AM »
Always good when a DMV story turns out right. Glad it worked out for you.

Ain't that the truth!?!?!? :P
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #152 on: January 02, 2023, 07:03:54 PM »
Although my project is on Winter Hiatus, today I replaced the right motor mount.  I purchased two mounts months ago and when I installed this Fall I found that one had an M10 stud (correct), and the other had an M11 stud (incorrect).  The incorrect one, M11 - 1.75 needed a nut that I couldn't find anywhere.  The mounts don't come with nuts so I couldn't use the one from the old mount.  I temporarily threaded an SAE nut sloppily on to hold it in place, then ordered another so I could get one with the correct M10 stud.  Now I will return the incorrect one using the more recent order...the other one was from well over 30 days ago so I couldn't return it without buying another.  Thank God the recent order came with the correct stud!

So there you have it....an off-season progress report. 
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #153 on: January 05, 2023, 05:05:54 PM »

So there you have it....an off-season progress report. 

Way to go!!!

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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #154 on: January 17, 2023, 07:55:24 PM »
The upholstery shop called today.  My seat is ready to pick up.  I can't get to it until Saturday.  I'll post pics after I get it and set it in place.  Spring can't get here soon enough...for several reasons!
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« Reply #155 on: January 21, 2023, 04:08:22 PM »
I picked up my seat today.  Overall it came out pretty nice.  The upholstery shop owner did say that the seat cover material was pretty crappy quality and wasn't completely satisfied with the way it came out.  It looks fine to me and this isn't supposed to be a pristine show car anyway.  He had to modify it by cutting a slit in the center for the parking brake lever to protrude through.  On a Mustang, the parking brake is under the dash and pulls rearward.  I cut the Pinto parking brake well out of the area between the front seats and welded it into the Mustang driveshaft tunnel between the rear seats.  Since that isn't where it normally would have been, the seat cover needed a slit cut.  He did a nice job of building up material around the slit to create more integrity.  As a side note, it was almost impossible to find rear seat-only upholstery for a Mustang.  I had no need for the front seat upholstery as there are no front seats in this ride (will be driven from the rear seat) so I didn't want to buy an entire kit.  What I found wasn't high quality, and not even a proper reproduction with correct ribbing, but it was all I could find so that's what I got.  Take a look below.  I have the interior quarter panels but they are green and not ready to be installed.  I hope Winter is over soon so I can get back on this project...
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #156 on: January 21, 2023, 09:38:12 PM »
When someone restored my 73 Mach 1, they didn't use original looking covers or door cards, but they still do look nice.  A guy could go broke trying to keep everything original looking.  I think the seat turned out great!
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #157 on: January 22, 2023, 08:34:49 AM »
Yep, thanks...good enough for me!  I got the seat frames from an old, defunct junkyard and the original covers were blue and in terrible shape.  The burlap was rotted and vinyl ripped and cracked.  I did a little fabbing and welding on the frames and now with the new padding and seat covers, they are WAY BETTER! 
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #158 on: January 23, 2023, 07:16:00 AM »
I think that seat looks pretty good.  From what company was the material purchased? 

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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #159 on: January 26, 2023, 04:04:45 PM »
I can't remember who I bought it from...I bought it 2-3 years ago.  I have the packing slip and/or invoice in my project folder.  I can look it up.  The upholstery guy was pointing out deficiencies that are noticeable if you look for them but it's good enough for this project. 
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #160 on: February 05, 2023, 07:19:02 PM »
No progress on my project this weekend.  Single digits on Friday, below 0 Friday night and early Saturday morning.  It warmed up today so I hosed out the garage floor, sprayed the salt off the cars, and hosed down the driveway.  The power washer is in the basement and didn't get it out.  A few more weeks of Winter and Spring will be here...
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #161 on: March 19, 2023, 10:05:12 AM »
Still snowing here in Upstate NY, but Spring starts tomorrow so it's a matter of time.  I plan to rearrange the shop mid to late April so I can start working on it again.  I am looking forward to getting back on it and getting it running and roadworthy over the course of the Summer.  I know my wife will want me to do other things, but this project is high on my list to get done.  I envy those of you that have nice weather year 'round and can can play with your toys whenever you want!  Hopefully soon I will be making more regular progress reports, and requests for advice and help...
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #162 on: March 19, 2023, 06:18:24 PM »
Still snowing here in Upstate NY, but Spring starts tomorrow so it's a matter of time.  I plan to rearrange the shop mid to late April so I can start working on it again.  I am looking forward to getting back on it and getting it running and roadworthy over the course of the Summer.  I know my wife will want me to do other things, but this project is high on my list to get done.  I envy those of you that have nice weather year 'round and can can play with your toys whenever you want!  Hopefully soon I will be making more regular progress reports, and requests for advice and help...

Looking forward to it!!!

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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #163 on: May 07, 2023, 05:47:02 PM »
I finally spent a little time on my project after a long Winter!  I didn't do much but it's the first progress since November unless you count replacing the right side motor mount in January and getting the car registered in my name in November or December. 

So today my progress was to permanently mount the steering rack.  I won't re-hash all the details but late last Fall I had to order longer mounting bolts as the T-Bird rack requires spacers between the rack and crossmember.  By the time they came in I had already pushed the car into its Winter spot.  I had to cut about 3/4" off the right side bolt as it would have hit the bellhousing by the starter. 

Next on the list is routing and installing the power steering hoses.  Fair warning...I may be asking for guidance in routing them.  I can't remember how they were routed when I disassembled the car.  Something that has to be done first is to get the hose ends at the rack end cut off and converted to AN-6 flare (female).  The originals are o-ring bubble flare and the T-bird rack has flare adapters.  I don't want to buy hoses, pump or rack so the easiest thing to do is get the hose ends modified.  Hopefully the local hydraulic shop can do it.  The former shop owner (retired) says they can do it. 

When I go to install, I will likely need guidance on hose routing.  I'm glad to be back on it. I hope to make good progress this Summer. 
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #164 on: May 10, 2023, 06:43:32 AM »
I'm glad to be back on it. I hope to make good progress this Summer. 

I'm glad to see you back at work on it as well, and I share your hope for making good progress!

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« Reply #165 on: May 10, 2023, 07:33:04 PM »
Yesterday I dropped off my power steering lines and today I picked them up.  Flare ends were installed at the rack end, just like I needed!  I loosely fit them to the rack and the pressure line to the pump and the return to where the cooler will mount.  The routing seems odd.  the pressure line essentially goes vertical from the rack, then to the left, then turns inboard to the pump.  I don't remember how they ran when I disassembled the car so maybe they are correct.  Since there is no inner fender to attach them to, it may make them look like they are routed incorrectly.  As long as they don't leak or impinge on anything else, I will be pleased.  I don't think I will get much time on it this weekend.  I have some other must do chores on Saturday and Sunday will be devoted to Mother's Day:  Mom, Wife, and Mother In Law. 
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #166 on: May 11, 2023, 10:51:45 AM »
... and Sunday will be devoted to Mother's Day:  Mom, Wife, and Mother In Law. 

Yea, that is one day you don't want to mess up. It could affect your car hobby for the rest of your life!

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« Reply #167 on: May 11, 2023, 07:03:22 PM »
I JUST REPLACED THE WHOLE STEERING SYSTEM ON MINE. `NEW ' RACK , PUMP AND ALL HOSES AND OUTER TIE RODS.THE OLD RACK FELL RIGHT OUT BUT THE NEW RACK WOULD NOT GO IN UNTIL I RAISED MOTOR UP .THE BODY WAS CONSIDERABLY LARGER DIAMETER.I MADE A BLEED TOOL OUT OF A 2 INCH RUBBER FREEZE PLUG ``PICTURED ''. PURGED ALL THE AIR OUT WITH MY VACUUM PUMP AT 45 LBS,CYCLED THE WHEEL A COUPLE TIMES,WORKS JUST PERFECT.DRIVES GREAT!
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #168 on: May 12, 2023, 08:06:35 PM »
Glad it went off without a hitch.  Are all your new steering parts "stock" Pinto or T-Bird or other "kit" components?  Nothing on mine seemed to be bolt-in ready. 
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« Reply #169 on: May 13, 2023, 03:08:43 PM »
THEY ARE ALL STOCK REPLACEMENT PARTS ,THE NEW RACK FITS PINTOS & MUSTANG IIS WITH 1 3/4 INPUT SHAFT LGTH.
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #170 on: May 27, 2023, 07:19:08 PM »
Today I decided to change the rear brakes on my project.  I purchased the parts months ago.  Remember, the rear is a 6 cyl 67 Mustang with drum brakes.  The car must have had a brake job not long before it was put out to pasture.  The hardware actually looks good and the linings on the shoes are quite thick.  The linings were bonded, not riveted and have separated from the shoes so they are getting replaced.  In addition to the shoes, I am replacing the wheel cylinders.  That is where a problem surfaced.  Since the front brakes are Pinto disc, I bought rear wheel cylinders for a front disc/rear drum Mustang.  Of course, they don't fit.  I should have bought wheel cylinders for a front and rear drum Mustang.  I ordered them today.  I replaced the left side shoes and cleaned everything up.  I will have to take them back apart when I replace the wheel cylinders.  While I had the drums off, I wire wheeled, primed and painted them silver.  They look nice.  I also replaced the rear brake hose.  I'll have to finish the job next weekend. 

Tomorrow I will be changing the Harley oil and primary lube.  Weed eat and lawn mow.  A few other chores and a party to attend.  I have a Veterans MC run on Monday.  Probably won't get much more done on the project this weekend.

I hope y'all enjoy the holiday weekend and remember those that gave all for our freedom. 
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #171 on: May 28, 2023, 12:30:14 PM »
I catch a lot of military shows on Smithsonian Channel. As I get old it makes me grateful that I was never called to fight. So many died young. My older brother did two tours of duty in Vietnam. One with sentry dogs and one on river boat patrol. Thankfully he made it back and also survived a career as a Federal Agent (he was Military Police in the Army). Both the draft and the Vietnam war ended just before I graduated HS in 1975. I had considered the military given the peacetime aspects but I had to have surgery right out of high school due to a track injury and my life took its own course from there.

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« Reply #172 on: June 01, 2023, 03:28:33 PM »
I'm glad your brother made it back.  I have a high level of respect for Viet Nam Vets.  My war (Desert Storm) was relatively easy.  I did 6 years Nave and 17 years Air National Guard.  Overall it was a good career as an Aerospace Ground Equipment Technician.  Met good people and went to cool places.  Learned god technical and leadership skills. 
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« Reply #173 on: June 03, 2023, 07:09:14 PM »
Progress today: I removed the rear axle cover, drained the old gear oil, cleaned out the housing and cover.  Cleaned both mating surfaces.  Primed, then painted the cover and bolt heads silver.  Tomorrow I will install the cover with new gasket and fill with 75w90 synthetic lube.  This was done in between the oil change, tire rotation and inspection of my Mazda6 daily driver and mowing the lawn.

I also started working on getting the firewall and transmission hump in place.  I have it "shimmed" with pieces of wood and steel to get it it the correct position.  I took measurements at key places and I think I have it where it needs to be. 

Tomorrow I'm going to have to do some metal fab, welding and bolting in place.  I need to fabricate radiator support rods to tie the radiator support to the firewall.  Then I need to tie the rear of the transmission hump to the forward section of the driveshaft tunnel.  At that point the cockpit should be fairly solid.   

I will do this in between doing the oil change, tire rotation, and general maintenance on my Ranger.  Another full day in the garage. 
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« Reply #174 on: June 04, 2023, 04:36:19 PM »
I didn't do as much on my project as I originally planned.  I did install the rear axle cover along with the original axle tag.  It is a 2.83:1 ratio...I wish it was at least 3.25 or 3.50 but it is what it is.  I filled with lube and reinstalled the 23 1/4" driveshaft.  It's more like a propeller shaft.  I put the tranny in neutral and found that with the rear wheels off the ground, I can spin the driveshaft in the forward motion but can't in the reverse motion.  Is that normal?  I did push the vehicle rearward but it was much more difficult than without the driveshaft in place.  The front is rolling on a 6" caster so maybe it would be easier if on four regular sized tires?  I check my firewall position and trimmed one of the shims but didn't do any welding.  That will have to wait till next weekend.

I did do the PM on my Ranger.  It is rarely driven so a few years have elapsed since the last PM.  It got oil change, greased outer tie rods, lower ball joints, and rear driveshaft u-joints.  I lowered the spare tire and inflated.  The spare tire carriers can seize up if not exercised periodically.  The underside of the bed is pretty rotted due to NY Winters.  I will have to find a good used bed or make it into a flatbed.  Otherwise it's a pretty good 20-year old truck.  I have a 6 1/2' plow on it so it is useful when we get heave snow, or for returning bottles and cans, getting mulch, taking stuff to the scrap yard, etc. 

More next weekend...
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« Reply #175 on: June 11, 2023, 07:16:22 PM »
I made pretty good progress Saturday and today.  The Floor of my donor Pinto was all but gone right up into where the firewall met the frame.  When I disassembled, there was essentially nothing left so I had to build it with scrap sheet metal.  I fabbed and welded off the frame and didn't get it perfect.  It didn't sit on the frame as it did from the factory.  I had to put spacers between the firewall "floor" and the frame so it would sit in position.  The right side was off a lot more than the left side.  I welded nuts to the underside of the spacers so I can bolt the firewall in place.  I've got everything in place and it's solid!  I do need to remove the assembly so I can weld everything up good and solid.   That will be next Saturday's project.   Some parts are just tacked in place due to access.  That was yesterday's project.   This afternoon I fabbed and installed radiator support rods.  It helped triangulate and stiffen the cowl and firewall.  I am going to have to remove the whole assembly and do some more body/prime/paint work.  I'm glad this part is behind me.  I have spent considerable time trying to figure out how I was going to get the assembly in the proper position and make it solid so now I can move on to other project needs.

I received the correct rear wheel cylinders but didn't get around to installing them or the right side brake shoes.  That will be for another day.  Next Sunday is Father's Day and I attend a car show in my home town so I will get done what I can on Saturday  but will make no progress on Sunday. 
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #176 on: June 14, 2023, 05:35:44 AM »
It's coming along nicely! 

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« Reply #177 on: June 14, 2023, 06:22:57 PM »
Every bit I do gets me closer to completion.  I'll get some done on Saturday but nothing on Sunday (Father's Day).  I think I will finish he rear brakes and put off the cowl bodywork for another weekend when I get both days to work on it.   
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #178 on: June 17, 2023, 05:56:52 PM »
Some, but not much progress:  I removed the firewall and trans hump assembly so I could gain access to weld my frame spacers properly.  The first pic shows that the right side needed taller spacers than the left,  Two attaching points on the left side didn't need spacers at all.  I drilled holes in the frame large enough to put nuts down into the frame and welded them in place.  I need to prime and paint to prevent corrosion.  I also tack welded a piece of the driveshaft tunnel back in place.  I had previously cut it out as the driveshaft was hitting the tunnel.  I thought cutting the forward section would give me the clearance but it didn't.  When I have the engine and tranny up into the correct "Pinto" position, it sits too high.  I creates to steep of a driveshaft angle and the forward end of the driveshaft hits the tunnel.  The fix is to build lowering brackets so the tranny tail shaft is angled downward.  I haven't done this yet but it is on the docket for a near future project.  With some engines the rearward drop could cause oil pooling under the valve cover but the is an oil return at the rear of the head in the 2.3.  I know it's not ideal but I don't have a lot of choice and this is not going to be a race car, or a daily driver so it will be fine.  I need to test fit the seat to see if I need to trim off the bracket I had previously welded onto the driveshaft tunnel. I didn't get to the rear brakes.  That will have to wait.

I did a lot of yardwork today.  I trimmed hedges, bushes, the entire back hedgerow.  I weed whacked and mowed.  I did some weeding and mulching.  Tomorrow I will be at a 600-700 car car show with my Mustang.  I have about 500 fliers to pass out for my club's August show.  No project progress tomorrow.  Happy Father's Day to the Fathers out there and to the rest, I hop you celebrate a Father or at least have a great Sunday!

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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #179 on: June 19, 2023, 11:29:44 AM »
What you are displaying, and I have found to be true is to just keep going. Even if it is only little things. So, often people start a project..., but never finish it. While doing my Corvair wagon project there are days when I ask myself, "Why did I get involved with this???" But then I'll go out and do a little something and the next time it gets easier to do 'a little something more.'


If it is any inspiration I got my homemade floor replacements finished and a fair portion of the interior done. Keep at it, there is light at the end of the tunnel.