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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #60 on: August 21, 2022, 04:33:07 PM »
I spent the better part of the day creating the top ridge on both quarter panels, and blending the filler down toward the trunk opening.  It came out pretty good, but it caused me to re-do areas that I had already done.  I didn't get to the polyester finishing putty but will do that next weekend.  I also still have to sand the cowl area.  I have to sand the body filler on the cowl itself, the rounded portions at each end, and where I welded patches in to cover up where the hood hinges attached.  I'm sure it will be another good day of sanding.  Hopefully I can wrap up this body filler sanding mission next weekend. 
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #61 on: August 21, 2022, 05:59:48 PM »
That sounds like a plan!  I can't wait to see this thing come together!!!

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« Reply #62 on: August 21, 2022, 07:36:37 PM »
Did I mention that I got my tires mounted?  After primer and black enamel on the frame, underside, rear wheel wells, cabin interior and trunk area, I will assemble the front end and bolt on the tires/wheels.  225 60 15 on 15x7 rims.
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« Reply #63 on: August 28, 2022, 06:38:40 PM »
Yesterday I spread the polyester filler and today I sanded.  Not sure if it made much of a difference but it sure created a lot more work!  I also started sanding/shaping the cowl section. It is rounded and irregular shaped so it is going to need a lot more massaging.  I will be working out of town again this week, then Labor Day weekend is a total loss to me as far as this project goes.  Saturday my VFW is hosting a charity cruise in and as one of the organizers I will be there all day.  Sunday is a family reunion, and Monday my wife wants me to take her to the NY State Fair.  I would rather sand Bondo and I don't even like doing that!  It looks like it will be the following weekend that I will get time on my project.  I am getting closer to being able to spray primer and paint.  I pray that the weather stays warm.  The long range forecast that we get at work suggests a warmer than normal pattern through September and into October so that bodes well for my plan.  Once November starts I can't work on projects...onl y daily driver maintenance and repairs.  I will keep you posted on progress as I make it.
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #64 on: August 30, 2022, 12:39:37 PM »
Sounds like a busy weekend coming up!  One thing is certain: that project will be sitting there waiting for you whenever you have the time to sand.  Tedious as sanding is, it makes all the difference in the world in your finished product!  Keep up the good work!

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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #65 on: August 30, 2022, 06:52:00 PM »
I am spending every spare minute I have on this thing...I'll be happy when I can drive it around my circle.  In the background I am trying to work with the Commonwealth of PA trying to get the title for the abandoned Mustang section that is making up the rear half of my project.  If that doesn't pan out, I have a couple of other options to get this thing registered and on the road...
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #66 on: September 01, 2022, 01:43:24 PM »
I am spending every spare minute I have on this thing...I'll be happy when I can drive it around my circle.  In the background I am trying to work with the Commonwealth of PA trying to get the title for the abandoned Mustang section that is making up the rear half of my project.  If that doesn't pan out, I have a couple of other options to get this thing registered and on the road...

I don't know how it works in Pennsylvania, but in Virginia, where there's a will, there's a way... although you may have to jump through numerous hoops to find it!  Good luck!

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« Reply #67 on: September 04, 2022, 07:36:48 AM »
No project progress this weekend.  I may go out very early tomorrow (Monday) AM before I have to go to the State Fair and fill and finish a couple of tiny imperfections and spread another coat of filler on the cowl section.  It won't be a lot but every little bit of progress gets me closer to the finished product.  The forecast of rain tomorrow may buy me a little garage time...as much as my wife wants to go to the Fair, she likes getting wet a lot less!  Forecast is for more rain in the AM and clearing in the PM...

As for getting my project titled and inspected, my goal is to get the title from PA for the Mustang portion.  I want to register it as a 67 Ford:  no side marker lights and no emissions.  Even if they can provide me with just the VIN, I can run with that through the State of Vermont to get a Vermont Title, then get it titled in The People's Republic of NY.  If that fails, The Pinto is titled in my name so I can register it as a 1980 Ford, but then when NY decides to enforce original equipment rules, I will have to incorporate side marker lights, and all 1980 emission controls which I plan to completely discard.  I could go down the path of a "custom" or "homemade" car but there are way more hoops to jump through and much more scrutiny.  I will prevail... 8)
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #68 on: September 05, 2022, 12:19:11 PM »
Your New York weather forecast sounds just about like what we're having here in Virginia.  It started raining here about 3:00 a.m. and, while it hasn't been much more than a drizzle so far, it's supposed to keep going until about midnight tonight!  It would be lousy weather to be traipsing around a State Fairground!  I took my twin aunts out for breakfast this morning to celebrate their 92nd birthday.  Frankly, when I saw the rain this morning, I suspected they might cancel, but they didn't.  I took along a big umbrella just in case.  I wasn't too worried about myself, but I didn't think it would probably be a good thing for them to get drenched if a real downpour occurred while we were out.  I got them fed and back home without incident, so I count that as a win.  Our annual breakfast outing has been a tradition since they turned 80 back in 2010; I never dreamed we'd still be doing it twelve years later! 

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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #69 on: September 05, 2022, 02:00:11 PM »
It's getting to be quite common for people to live to 100 and beyond.
When I was growing up, it was RARE for someone to get to 100 yrs.
My last remaining aunt is now 105!!

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« Reply #70 on: September 06, 2022, 04:18:44 PM »
It's getting to be quite common for people to live to 100 and beyond.
When I was growing up, it was RARE for someone to get to 100 yrs.
My last remaining aunt is now 105!!

No one in my family has made it that far yet, but my paternal grandmother made it to 95.  The aforementioned twins are two of her seven offspring.  I do, however, know a lady in my church congregation who is 102 and still in good health.  She will turn 103 in February assuming all goes well! 

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« Reply #71 on: September 07, 2022, 12:24:46 PM »
My mother just turned 95. We have a friend who just celebrated his 101st BD and is still mentally sharp. Another friend's motber-in-law died in July, two months short of her 110th BD. She was one of our counties first covid cases. Other than a mild fever, she was never sick. The only reason she was even diagnosed was because the nursing homes started checking for symptoms.
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« Reply #72 on: September 11, 2022, 05:21:41 AM »
100 is quite a milestone...ha ts off to your family members that got there and beyond!  Some of my relatives have had long lives...90's and a grandfather that was 101.  If I make it that long, I hope I am healthy physically and mentally!

Pinto Content:  I did a little sanding one evening this past week.  No progress yesterday...I had VFW Officer Training from 0800-1300, then to a music festival to benefit ALS research and cure.  I will be out in the garage today doing some final sanding and seam sealing, then organizing and cleaning the shop in preparation for primer/paint next weekend.  I will have to cut my garage time short today as I have a 5+ hour drive this afternoon for another work week out of town.  I got up at 0330 this AM to get a head start on all things that need to be done before I hit the road. 

I made progress on my titling progress.  While I wasn't able to get the title from the Commonwealth of PA as they only keep records for 10 years, they did send me a Vehicle Abstract for the Mustang that includes the last title holder's name and address and more importantly the VIN.  That in itself will help me title the car registered.  I'll buy a reproduction VIN Tag on line so it will be official!

More to come next weekend...

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« Reply #73 on: September 12, 2022, 07:29:56 PM »
Yesterday (Sunday) I didn't do any final body prep.  It was raining so I couldn't do it outside and I didn't want to make any more dust in the shop so I did some organizing, swept, then blew out dust with leaf blower, then power washed the floor in the area I will paint in.  I did some seam sealing but need more sealer to finish.  I am out of town all week so I will have to reconvene this weekend when I get home.  I asked my wife not to plan any activities for me so I can at least finish body work and prep for primer on Saturday, then spray primer on Sunday.  I have a lot to do it a short amount of time and weather is going to work against me in the upcoming weeks...
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« Reply #74 on: September 13, 2022, 07:17:36 AM »
Yesterday (Sunday) I didn't do any final body prep.  It was raining so I couldn't do it outside and I didn't want to make any more dust in the shop so I did some organizing, swept, then blew out dust with leaf blower, then power washed the floor in the area I will paint in.  I did some seam sealing but need more sealer to finish.  I am out of town all week so I will have to reconvene this weekend when I get home.  I asked my wife not to plan any activities for me so I can at least finish body work and prep for primer on Saturday, then spray primer on Sunday.  I have a lot to do it a short amount of time and weather is going to work against me in the upcoming weeks...

It sounds like you made good use of your time despite the weather!  Getting all that dust out of the garage before you start spraying primer and paint is a definite must!  Your schedule sounds a bit like mine except, fortunately, I do not have to travel out of town for my work.  In fact, my place of employment is only four miles from my house so I can't say that I lose much time to my commute.  lol  My problem is that I play guitar in two bands, each of which practice weekly, and of course schedule events as they come along.  That's in addition to being organist at my church, full-time caregiver to my invalid wife, and chief moderator on this forum. That's not to even mention that I also do the shopping, bill paying, laundry, cooking, cleaning, etc. because my wife cannot.  I work full-time, but my 80 hours per two-week pay period is condensed into seven days: three one week and four the next rather than the more normal eight-hour shifts, five days per week.  I generally get about 5 - 6 hours sleep per day.  As much as I used to enjoy projects, whether they be around the house or restoring an old car, I simply can't do it anymore.  There are just not enough hours in the day!  I am not complaining... not at all... I am simply saying I can understand the obstacles you encounter when working on a big project!  For that reason, I find your progress even more amazing!  Have a safe work week!

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« Reply #75 on: September 13, 2022, 07:55:46 PM »
Yep, lots of similarities to my life...I typically get to work around 0600 and leave roughly 12 hour later, M-F during Spring Summer, Fall and 0600-about 1500 on Saturdays in the Winter.  26 minute commute each day.  Due to my being an "elder statesman", my travel is occasional, but is to train new managers as they get hired.  I really end up working 7 days a week, but not all day on Saturdays and Sundays outside of the heating season.  On one hand it can be tiring, but on the other, 100 MPH all the time keeps me going.  I have other responsibiliti es in my VFW and car club, and do all the "man work" and some of the "woman work" (no disrespect meant) around the house.  Like you, not bragging or complaining... it's just the way it is!   :) I'll get home Thursday night, and Friday after work I plan to get right back on the project so I can do as much as possible over the weekend.  I'm envious of your musical abilities...I took guitar lessons as a kid but never stuck with it.  I am good at playing the stereo.   ;D
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« Reply #76 on: September 15, 2022, 04:36:26 AM »
I don't think I mentioned in my earlier post that I work the overnight shift, generally getting off at 8:00 a.m.  Again, I'm not complaining; I sought that shift many years ago and have always preferred it to working during daylight hours.  I have been with the same employer for 42 years, all but the first nine months of which has been night shift. 


As for the guitar, I learned fairly early in life... took a few lessons around age ten, but quit when I fell in with a group of "elderly" neighborhood guys who played Bluegrass music in their spare time.  Looking back on it, I have to laugh at their senior citizen status in my mind.  The oldest of the bunch was approximately twenty years younger than I am today!  Only one of them is still living now, and he has so much trouble with arthritis that he can no longer play.  At any rate, the things I learned playing with that group were so much more valuable than anything I learned by way of formal lessons.  When I was in 7th grade, my guitar was the sole musical accompaniment for our school's Christmas program!  It was about that time I started applying what I had learned about the guitar to the piano, and later to organ, becoming a self-taught keyboardist.  Between the ages of 12 and 16, I played organ for an outdoor worship service at a local campground every Sunday during the camping season.  Between the ages of 18 and 35 I held a paid position as organist at a local church.  I then took a hiatus for a number of years, moved my membership to another church and ultimately, was offered (and accepted) the organist position there 21 years ago.  Still playing after all these years, and surely will so long as I'm able.  Music, regardless of the genre, is as vital to my well-being as eating or sleeping.  Like you, I think going "full speed ahead" is what actually keeps me going! 


I'm anxious to see what progress you make on your roadster this weekend.

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« Reply #77 on: September 15, 2022, 07:16:25 PM »
I got home this evening...back to my regular office Friday AM. Our company is giving us the afternoon off so I will rush home and get a few hours of work done on my project.  My son mowed the lawn yesterday without me having to ask so that is one task I won't have to do.  My wife asked me to go to an Oktoberfest tomorrow evening so I need to get any final sanding done, get the surfaces clean, and get the "paint booth" ready.  Maybe I can spray Saturday, but I have to spray by Sunday.  Pics will be posted.

My Mom is a keyboardist.  She is 85 and starting to slow it down a bit but still plays a few gigs here and there. 
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« Reply #78 on: September 16, 2022, 12:06:02 AM »

My Mom is a keyboardist.  She is 85 and starting to slow it down a bit but still plays a few gigs here and there. 

Good for her!  In my first paid church position, I played organ along with an older lady who played piano.  We played together as a team for 13 of the 17 years I was there.  She retired at age 93, which left me as a solo organist for the first time since the old campground days.  My current pianist partner is male and 73 years old.  He played there for about ten years before I signed on, and we have played together for 21 years now.  His wife is the choir director.  I think it's safe to say we all love what we do. 

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« Reply #79 on: September 18, 2022, 05:56:45 AM »
I'm sure the congregation appreciates you playing.  My Mom fills in at two churches and sometimes is the house musician at a museum.  She has cut back on her old folks home playing as she is getting to be one of them!

Pinto Content:  Yesterday I did final bodywork and sanding.  There are blemishes that I either couldn't get perfect or stopped trying.  I have been working with distorted metal in the area where I welded the roof on so while it won't be perfect, it was never supposed to be.  It would have been a lot easier if I had gone the Rat Rod route!  I have scuff-sanded the entire body and frame and blown it down.  I have to final sand the quarter panel extensions and the side ornaments.  In a few minutes I am going to wipe it down with a damp sponge to catch any residual dust, then with degreaser.  I need to be spraying epoxy primer by noon at the latest so I can give it at least an hour cure time.  I need to spray black enamel on the underside, cabin interior, trunk area, and frame by early afternoon as we are going to get some rain in the PM. 

I will post pics later...
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« Reply #80 on: September 18, 2022, 04:02:12 PM »
This AM I did all my prep work:  cleaning the surfaces, wiping down with degreaser, tack cloth, jacked it up, got the gun and paint materials ready.  I didn't start spraying till about 1:30.  Spraying the underside didn't work too well.  I will have to paint it with a brush.  No big deal; there isn't that much of an underside.  I sprayed all exterior surfaces, the trunk area, frame, and cabin with Epoxy.  Came out pretty good.  Since I got a later than desired start and the primer isn't quite cured, I am in a waiting pattern before I can spray black enamel.  It is about 5:00 now so I am hoping that by 6:30 I can do the black, then get everything cleaned and put away so I can put myself away for the night!  Pics of epoxy attached.  Will take pics of black later after spraying...
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« Reply #81 on: September 18, 2022, 04:10:22 PM »
Two more pics after shooting epoxy.  My exhaust fan pulls any airborne particles out.  It's a furnace fan on low speed.  I made a square to round transition and attach an Air FOrce Heater Hose to it to route it out the back door of my garage.  I use blue tarps to segregate the rear 2/3 of the garage from the "paint booth". 
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« Reply #82 on: September 18, 2022, 08:08:43 PM »
Started shooting Black shortly after 6:30....done and cleaned up at 8:30.  Long day, but progress was made!  I only painted the under side of the decklid black.  The top side will be body color.  I only have so much of the body color and no one will see the trunk area and underside of the deck lid unless the truck is open so I didn't want to waste it.  The body is going to be leftover Medium Gray Metallic from my EXP project. 
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« Reply #83 on: September 20, 2022, 01:56:32 PM »
  Long day, but progress was made! 

 :o What an understatement!!!  You made AMAZING progress!  It looks great!

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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #84 on: September 23, 2022, 05:47:46 AM »
Tomorrow (Saturday) I will brush paint the underside.  Red Oxide Primer first, then black enamel.  That will seal up the underside and my next thing will be to start detailing the engine, engine accessories, and any other "under hood" parts.  I ordered a bunch of stuff from CJ Pony Parts and Rock Auto that are starting to trickle in so I have what I need to do a lot of the remaining work.  I bought an engine gasket and seal kit so I can re-gasket any external engine parts.  Might as well do it now with the engine on the stand rather than later when it is in the chassis.  I want to get the engine back in the frame before I put it away for the Winter.  I also ordered a VIN Tag with the VIN stamped on it now that I know what the Mustang VIN is.  I'll have to start working on the titling process.  I need to check with the upholstery shop that has my seat frames and covers to see if he's made progress.

There is a car show that I should patronize on Saturday but in order to stay on schedule, I can't sit at a show all day just to be cordial so I may pop in as a spectator only for a few minutes and make a donation to the show organizers.  I have a wedding to go to this afternoon (Friday) so that is kind of getting in my way too.  Anyway, I continue to make progress but there is still a long way to go. 
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #85 on: September 23, 2022, 11:16:54 PM »
Sounds like another busy weekend you have lined up there!  Keep us in the loop!

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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #86 on: September 24, 2022, 07:51:13 PM »
Today I helped my wife decorate outside for Halloween.  We have a tree that gets hundreds of orange lights and takes over two hours to do, among other lights and decorations.  We had good weather today nd she had an Saturday off so we did it. 

This afternoon I brushed red oxide primer on the underside, including leaf springs, differential, axle housings.  Tomorrow I'll brush black enamel on and use black spray paint on any of the hard to get to spots. I need to take a good look at the engine and put my game plan together for some disassembly, cleaning/degreasing, sanding wire wheeling, priming, painting.  Will do some re-gasketing.  I have taken deliver of mot of my recently ordered parts.  I have a few more that will come this week.  I am looking forward to assembly in the near future.  That's when it gets exciting!
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #87 on: September 25, 2022, 07:10:28 PM »
The underside is now black.  It took longer than I expected but it is sealed up really well.  I didn't get a chance to use the rattle can black in difficult to brush areas.  What I brushed on was still wet and/or tacky and I had enough paint on my hands and arms so I figured it would be better to wait than to mess up what I had just brushed on. 

More to come next weekend...
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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #88 on: September 28, 2022, 09:52:07 AM »
Sounds like pretty good progress under the circumstances.  I'll bet your house looks neat all decorated for Halloween.  My daughter-in-law handles all the outdoor decorating at our house.  She hasn't started on Halloween yet, but they're going on a vacation trip next week and she says she'll do it as soon as they return.

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Re: Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster
« Reply #89 on: October 02, 2022, 05:40:11 PM »
Today I started removing components from the engine.  I stared with the alternator and power steering pump and brackets.  No problem with the alternator.  I was able to remove the two top power steering pump bracket bolts, but the lower one broke off.  I won't get into the details, but will divulge that I spent a substantial amount of time, effort and frustration getting the bracket off.  The process included a hammer, angle drill, pry bar, and while I did finally get it off, I cracked the bottom of the bracket by getting overzealous with the hammer.  I removed both motor mounts.  The left side looks like it had been replaced at some point but the right side is defective.  I have two new ones and a new tranny mount so all will be replaced.  I pulled the distributor out.  I removed the radiator hoses and disconnected the heater pipes.  I removed the fuel pump and the guard that is over it.  I removed the fan, fan spacer, and water pump pulley.  I removed the timing belt cover.  My next challenge is getting the crank pulley off.  I got the bolt out with my impact, but when trying to pull it off with a 2-jaw puller, the inner groove started bending.  I will take any advice from the experts on how to get it off without ruining the pulley.   Is heat advisable?  I think it might ruin the crank seal, but I need to get it off so I can replace the timing belt and clean up and paint the pulley.  I plan to replace the seal anyway.  I have sprayed penetrating oil where I could hoping it will loosen things up.   I loosened, but didn't remove the water pump and thermostat housing bolts.  Next weekend I plan to remove the intake and other fuel and emission system components.  I will have to figure out what I need to keep for vacuum hoses.  I want to eliminate as much as possible.  I plan to remove and block off the EGR.  The stock air cleaner won't be used so there are a bunch of hoses I won't need.  I have a header so not cat converter will be used.   There is a pic below of a component that I need help identifying.  It is under the intake/carb and has a HW line that runs to or from one of the heater pipes on top of the engine.  If anyone can identify it, please let me know what it is, what it does, and if it can be eliminated.  Once I get more stuff off the engine I will clean it with lacquer thinner, then prime, paint, reassemble, and put it back in the chassis.

I got some good news on the title.  The person I got the Mustang portion from found the title.  The previous owner signed it over to him but he never registered it in his name.  It is a PA title so he and I will have to go to a Notary in PA to get it in his name, then get it signed over to me.   A bit of a hassle, but it's what I will have to do to get it in my name and registered in NY.  I ordered and received a VIN tag that is stamped with the correct VIN so it will look official. 

I'm in crunch time with a short window of opportunity to hit the goals I set for myself before calling it quits for the season.  I will carry on...
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